Solved Video card detection issues on cold boot

February 10, 2012 at 19:12:21
Specs: Windows XP SP3, 4000+ / 2gb DDR
MOD NOTE: This is a Hardware problem, cleverly disguised as a scripting question. Just pretend the first 9 responses don't exist. -Razor2.3

I have a long term problem I posted my problem here as it is HARDWARE related, However as I need a PROGRAMMING BATCH code HACK to get around it I am posting my request here also.

http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...

What I need is some code to run from batch on loading windows to run BEFORE it loads the windows program's I am not sure where it would go but I suppose after windows loads the drivers and check to see if windows is trying to load the 7600 GS driver IF TRUE, force a reboot as when it does a reboot it seems to find the right driver then for the 7900 GS

If any one can help me would be very much appreciated thanks.

Michelle xxx

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February 15, 2012 at 06:05:41
It's hard to say. I don't know what's broke on the video card, and I'm not familiar with the particulars of ACPI implementation. Maybe a 60 second pause in the boot loader will fix it, maybe the system just needs to be rebooted after 10 seconds.

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#1
February 10, 2012 at 19:31:26
This line of code will at least help with the automatic reboot:

shutdown.exe /r /t 0


For the changing of the drivers, you may want to take a look at the devcon command:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311272


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#2
February 10, 2012 at 22:35:35
Dear RMT2

Many Thanks for that I will take a look, yes I know about the shutdown part and psshutdown my problem is that I do strongly believe that the 7600 GS drivers originally supplied by "GIGABYTE" damaged my motherboard specifically the "@bios" driver I am in no doubt it dumped some crap in my ROM chip as it is impossible for me to get rid of it now. I also flashed my motherboard bios with the latest firmware that also did not help.

So if their is a way to either BLOCK windows from getting that specific information being the 7600 GS or simply forcing a reboot if windows tries to load the wrong driver then that is my only way around the problem I can think of.

Michelle

PS, Just looked at the program looks like what I need :D will still need some help though as I am not really a programmer just some basic experience with batch files but digging into windows registry is very dangerous if not done carefully. from running the HELP i.e.

devcon help driverfiles

Looks like the first port of call is finding the right ID or HARDWARE ID something specific to the 7600 GS that is going to be difficult to find, as it will not be visible to me until the next erroneous boot so will have to check after my system reads the bios I think ? unless it's somewhere in those reg files?

Michelle xxx


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#3
February 10, 2012 at 23:34:20
OK I am having luck :)

CORRECT DRIVER IS 7900 GS So I am running this as a test at the moment to look for a known driver which is the right one.

devcon -m:\\Venus6 find pci\ven_10de&dev_02e3

It piped out the following result.

PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E3&SUBSYS_3E201462&REV_A24&2B6E8868&0&0008: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS
1 matching device(s) found on \\Venus6.'dev_02e3' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

However is falls back after the & sign oops

Looks like this iswhat I need:

"MatchingDeviceId"="pci\\ven_10de&dev_02e1"
"DriverDesc"="NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS"

so IF the device ID does not change then I could have.

devcon -m:\\Venus6 find "pci\\ven_10de&dev_02e1"
Result
No matching devices found on \\Venus6.

Now if this is right and it will work it needs to run from my registry right after the drivers load that's the tricky part and IF TRUE [REBOOT] my computer: any help much appreciated.

Michelle xxx


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#4
February 11, 2012 at 09:38:46
Here is one possible way to do this, I think:

devcon -m:\\Venus6 find pci\ven_10de&dev_02e3>TMP.TXT
SET /P VAR1=<TMP.TXT
IF %VAR1%==<Result that NVIDIA Driver 7600 is loaded> shutdown.exe -r


I have one more question. Are you running XP Home or XP Professional?


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#5
February 11, 2012 at 11:22:39
Dear RMT2, great I will try that after I have some sleep been at it all day, BTW someone deleted or moved my other post oO ? it had important reference stuff in it, which we are working on from here very odd.

Can that code be run in a registry key ? or if not will put it in batch but need some location where it will load just after the drivers load not sure how to do that it might need permissions or some weird stuff.

Michelle xxx


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#6
February 11, 2012 at 11:41:18
A moderator could have accidentally (or for some reason) deleted your post. We'll just have to live with it.

The reason I was asking about whether your ran XP Pro or XP Home is because XP Pro has a program called GPEDIT. This program will let you set up startup and shutdown scripts (run a program on startup or shutdown). Although these will not run directly after drivers are loaded, they are loaded BEFORE you can log in, which is sooner than a regular Startup Folder script.


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#7
February 12, 2012 at 06:11:11
Cross posting and spamming your question are not allowed. I considered deleting this topic but the Hardware mods are faster than me.

EDIT: It's fine as long as you keep it to one thread, and you keep this thread dedicated to the workaround. I was just answering the question of why a mod would delete your other thread.

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#8
February 12, 2012 at 07:34:38
Hi Razor sorry I did not realise I was spamming, I just could not decide if my problem was Hardware or Software problem I prefer a hardware solution really, however this batch script is just a work around to a persistent problem that I want to fix. Yesterday I removed the bad entries in my registry that often force the none existent 7600 GS drivers on my pc. and today when I booted up my PC all I got was a BLANK screen so could not even read the batch file which is running in test mode so could not get the unique ID I needed. So instead I modified the code to check for a KNOWN value. I had to rest my PC and lucky it did load the correct drivers on the second boot so alas my nightmare BSOD is always lurking around the corner if ever those 7600 drivers get on my system.

if exist TMP.TXT del TMP.TXT
devcon -m:\\Venus6 find "pci\ven_10de&dev_02e1">>TMP.TXT
SET /P VAR1=<TMP.TXT
echo %VAR1%
IF NOT "%VAR1%"=="No matching devices found on \\Venus6." shutdown.exe -r -f
sleep 16
cls
goto end


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#9
February 12, 2012 at 07:49:47
Dear RMT2, I used to use XP pro, so I do have the disk if I need to extract files from the CAB's I stopped using it as it is less safe than Home. I have sysinternals so have many files on another partition I will see if I can find the file you mentioned.

All that matters is that my PC is forced to reboot BEFORE windows self destructs by adding the wrong drivers, also I tried to remove the bad keys but some give me an access denied when run from Batch but I can remove the keys using a third party registry editor here is my code below.

reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E1&SUBSYS_3E201462&REV_A2"
if not ErrorLevel 1 (
reg delete "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E1&SUBSYS_3E201462&REV_A2" /va /f
call :clnd

) else (
echo.
echo That Key is not present theirfore no action taken.
)
sleep 5
cls
:: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E1&SUBSYS_3E201462&REV_A2"
if not ErrorLevel 1 (
reg delete "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E1&SUBSYS_3E201462&REV_A2" /va /f
call :clnd

) else (
echo.
echo That Key is not present theirfore no action taken.
)
sleep 5
cls
:: **************************************************************************************************************
reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Control\Class\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
if not ErrorLevel 1 (
reg delete "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Control\Class\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}" /va /f
call :clnd

) else (
echo.
echo That Key is not present theirfore no action taken.
)
sleep 5
cls
:: **************************************************************************************************************
reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E1&SUBSYS_3E201462&REV_A2"
if not ErrorLevel 1 (
reg delete "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E1&SUBSYS_3E201462&REV_A2" /va /f
call :clnd

) else (
echo.
echo That Key is not present theirfore no action taken.
)
sleep 5
cls


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#10
February 12, 2012 at 08:00:38
Do the keys reappear after a reboot?

The problem is, without XP Pro, you can't run the startup scripts. Even if you extract the files from an XP Installation or CD, the program will not be able to apply settings, so you couldn't setup a startup script.

With the Batch script, are you running it in a Limited Account or an Administrative Account?

Also, I found one error in this script:

if exist TMP.TXT del TMP.TXT
devcon -m:\\Venus6 find "pci\ven_10de&dev_02e1">>TMP.TXT
SET /P VAR1=<TMP.TXT
echo %VAR1%
IF NOT "%VAR1%"=="No matching devices found on \\Venus6." shutdown.exe -r -f
sleep 16
cls
goto end

On the second line, there should only be 1 >, not 2. Also, the sleep command only works if you have the executable sleep.exe. Otherwise you will just get a command not found error.


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#11
February 12, 2012 at 08:31:05
Dear RMT2 ahhh yes

1/ Keys do re-appear ONLY after a FIRST BOOT when PC reads from the bios (not on cyclic rebooting.

2/ Running as Administrator yes

3/ Not sure on the error as it seems to work for me here, yes good point on the sleep I will change it.

The > was giving me weird errors before but found out it was a lack of "" the output was multi line when I tested it first with my correct driver, I got a few errors printed

The >> seemed to fix the problem

But yes I agree I do not need 2 of those >> now thanks.

@echo off && setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
:: CHECKS FOR WRONG NVIDIA DRIVER 7600 GS
:: ------------------------------------------
:: Leaves the TMP.txt file for reading the code output
:: at least until next boot.
if exist TMP.TXT del TMP.TXT
:: ------------------------------------------
devcon -m:\\Venus6 find "pci\ven_10de&dev_02e1">TMP.TXT
SET /P VAR1=<TMP.TXT
echo %VAR1%
IF NOT "%VAR1%"=="No matching devices found on \\Venus6." shutdown.exe -r -f
if exist sleep sleep 16
cls
endlocal
exit


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#12
February 12, 2012 at 08:46:50
Is there any way to actually boot up the PC with the 7600 Drivers? If you can without a BSOD, then try to run the script and see if it works.

Truthfully, I don't know much else we can do about this. Can you give me the specifications of the computer? (Processor, RAM, Computer Model)

I have an idea of something worth trying if you want to go all or nothing. Since you mentioned the Windows 2000 never messes up with the drivers, you could update the Windows 2000 to Windows XP and save all of the documents and such on the Windows 2000 OS. The downsides:

1. No more Windows 2000 to boot from.
2. Windows XP could once again read the drivers from the BIOS and you'll have 2 Windows XPs that don't work!

Also, since you mentioned this had Windows 2000, I'm assuming its and older machine. You could just get a newer machine and move the video card and such to it.

Just some more ideas,
RMT2
PS: Did you know that I am 14 yrs. old helping you?


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#13
February 12, 2012 at 09:37:55
Dear RMT2, well you surprise me, I have 20 years experience with computers and you certainly seem to know your stuff :)

I have with help from others on here written some extensive automation scripts for my server PC, my server pc is now completely automated it does self repairs on network, hard disk, firewall inoperative situations now but we can only fix what we know HOW to fix can't we.

I did put my system specks on my other post until it was deleted :p
Computer Type ACPI Uniprocessor PC
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 3
Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18702
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64, 2400 MHz (12 x 200) 4000+
Motherboard Name ASRock 939A8X-M (3 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, LAN)
Motherboard Chipset ULi/ALi M1689, AMD Hammer
System Memory 2048 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
DIMM3: A-Data VDNGC1A16 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)
DIMM4: A-Data VDNGC1A16 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)

Operating in dual memory mode

BIOS Type AMI (03/20/06)
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS (512 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS AGP
Monitor LG W2261 (Analog) [22" LCD] (2012182201)
Disk Drive HDS728080PLAT20 (80 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
Disk Drive STM3500418AS SCSI Disk Device (465 GB)
Optical Drive Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A (DVD+R9:8x, DVD-R9:12x, DVD+RW:20x/8x, DVD-RW:20x/6x, DVD-RAM:12x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/32x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM)

I think thats enough information, however I have dual booting and now I cloned my XP onto a backup partition just in case I mess this one up I can copy the none corrupted one back onto this partition after changing the SID. I am doing this for debuging reasons, and to compare registry from clean system with this one.

Both are fresh installs and I choose not to boot into the primary XP from a cold boot until I find a solution to what is messing up my drivers. I am sure that when I boot my system after it has been turned off for about an hour it IS getting the 7600 GS information from a ROM or BIOS even though I flashed my bios with newest firmware it still happens. In my bios their is a setting for P2P single fifo, it is for BRIDGED MODE video cards, without this turned on I cannot boot up at all NO VIDEO what so ever. It could be that the single fifo P2P Bridging is the culprit but I will never know for sure because like I say it will not boot with this turned off / disabled.

As for Installing Windows 2000 it is not supported any more and upgrading does not work as I already tried it before.

Michelle xxx



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#14
February 12, 2012 at 09:55:33
What were the interfaces for the 7600 and the 7900 (PCI-E, AGP, PCI)? Some setting in the BIOS could be set for the wrong video card if the interfaces are different, thus loading the wrong driver.

Indeed we can only fix what we know how to, or else it is a lost cause. :)


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#15
February 12, 2012 at 12:19:32
AGP my bios does not have many options for setting up my AGP card it has two options, one for a standard PCI video card, and the second is for an AGP card it has some voltage settings not much else, trust me I tried all the bios settings nothing helped their.

Michelle


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#16
February 12, 2012 at 13:18:56
When you last flashed the BIOS, where did you get the ROM from? The ROM you got could have had the 7600 video driver built into it (or some information about the 7600).

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#17
February 12, 2012 at 13:43:15
I always get bios updates from the main motherboard Manufacturer
http://www.asrock.com/mb/download.a...

This is where I got my bios update

Michelle


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#18
February 12, 2012 at 13:48:20
I only Installed this one
2.10 6/15/2006 Windows® 400.17KB Add one item "AGP P2P Deep Fifo" in BIOS setting.

NOTE: Sorry I think I did use the floppy bios update my mistake, also perhaps trying an earlier bios like 2.00 might work however because I must use (currently) the P2P DEEP FIFO to have any video it might also stop me from having any video, I suppose I could create 2 floppy disks one with v2.00 and one with v2.10 it might be worth a try.

Michelle


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#19
February 12, 2012 at 15:15:59
The only thing that comes to mind is integrated graphics. Does your motherboard have integrated graphics? If so, the 7600 could be the integrated graphics.

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#21
February 12, 2012 at 16:08:01
RMT2 - Nope when I bought this motherboard I specifically asked for one without Integrated Graphics it has no built in video at all.

Razor - http://www.asrock.com/mb/download.a...

Michelle


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#22
February 12, 2012 at 19:08:41
This is the last idea that comes to mind:

1. Open Control Panel, then click Add or Remove Programs.
2. Uninstall ANYTHING that is Nvidia. Do not restart if the uninstaller asks you to.
3. Next, open the Automatic Updates settings. Disable Automatic Updates.
4. Restart your computer.
5. Download and run Ccleaner. Remove any temporary files and such.
6. Install the 7900 drivers.
7. Put the computer in whatever scenario it is in when it loads the 7600 drivers. (shut it off for a few hours, or whatever triggered it before).
8. Test to see if the problem is fixed.
9. Test this several times to be sure.
10. After you are sure it is consistent, re-enable automatic updates (if it was enabled before).

If enabling Automatic Updates causes the problem again, just repeat the steps and leave Automatic Updates disabled. You'll then just have to manually install updates.


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#23
February 13, 2012 at 03:56:27
Dear RMT2, I really appreciate your efforts in trying to help me, but remember this was a clean Install I was awake for something like 23 hours when I formatted both my primary partitions one had windows 2000 on it the other xp, I blanked all the data on the partitions I used a tool called Partition Commander to do this. Then I created 2 new primary partitions of equal size, made the first set active, and hid the second.

Then I Installed a clean copy of XP sp2, then updated all the driver's and it detected the right drivers when I ran 275.33-desktop-winxp-32bit-international-whql.exe

Everything went perfect their was not a question about the drivers, I installed some other programs then went to bed. When I woke up my computer booted in like it was in safe mode like the video drivers were not ven installed, the screen went all slow and patchy and ripples all over the place and I just thought oh no not again.

I aborted the boot up by hitting reset, and it booted normally again all the drivers were back as they were meant to be.

Their was no trace of the 7600 GS card so running any reg cleaning tools is not going to work, I use them all the time anyway, the point is running registry cleaning tools is a good idea IF I had had the 7600 GS installed after the recent installation of XP but have not. I think you can see why this is such a problem for me the only possible reason is bios or AGP port rom something in the hardware or firmware is causing this not the operating system. Because once the operating system has had a chance to see what's their it does correct itself on the second boot. I am going to try the earlier bios however as I don't think I tried v2.00

Well I am going to get some sleep, another long day been at it almost 24 hours.

Hugs Michelle xxx


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#24
February 13, 2012 at 05:44:18
Yes, I think the only thing left is to flash the BIOS to an older version. But, of course, there is always the risk that something gets corrupted in there and you need a new motherboard.

You should try first flashing the BIOS, then, if you have an extra hard drive laying around, try installing XP on it and see if anything happens. (After you get some sleep).

RMT2


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#25
February 14, 2012 at 01:52:00
Dear RMT2, I have taken a look at the option of installing earlier bios it gave me a warning said the bios is older and I do not want to risk trashing my PC I made a boot log just now when I woke up when the video drivers were trying to load the wrong graphics device maybe this boot log will shed some light on matter.

Service Pack 3 2 14 2012 09:16:26.500
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\hal.dll
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\KDCOM.DLL
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\BOOTVID.dll
Loaded driver sptd.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\WMILIB.SYS
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\SCSIPORT.SYS
Loaded driver ACPI.sys
Loaded driver pci.sys
Loaded driver isapnp.sys
Loaded driver aliide.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\PCIIDEX.SYS
Loaded driver MountMgr.sys
Loaded driver ftdisk.sys
Loaded driver PartMgr.sys
Loaded driver VolSnap.sys
Loaded driver atapi.sys
Loaded driver m5289.sys
Loaded driver disk.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\CLASSPNP.SYS
Loaded driver fltmgr.sys
Loaded driver sr.sys
Loaded driver KSecDD.sys
Loaded driver Ntfs.sys
Loaded driver NDIS.sys
Loaded driver agpkx.sys
Loaded driver Mup.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\Cap7134.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\fdc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\parport.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\i8042prt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serial.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ALCXWDM.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ALCXSENS.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ULILAN.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\cdrom.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbohci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbehci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\a2u5ue4l.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\processr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ManyCam.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\audstub.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasl2tp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndistapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndiswan.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspppoe.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspptp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ptilink.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspti.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\termdd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\swenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\update.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mssmbios.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\PhTVTune.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\flpydisk.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\lbrtfdc.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Sfloppy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\i2omgmt.SYS
Loaded driver \??\C:\Program Files\Emsisoft Anti-Malware\a2dix86.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Changer.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdaudio.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Null.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Beep.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdhid.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mnmdd.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\RDPCDD.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Msfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Npfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasacd.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\OAnet.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\msgpc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ipsec.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\OAmon.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\afd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbios.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\PCIDump.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\oahlp32.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\OADriver.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wanarp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fips.SYS
Loaded driver \??\C:\Program Files\Emsisoft Anti-Malware\a2util32.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\Program Files\Emsisoft Anti-Malware\a2ddax86.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fastfat.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\hidusb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbccgp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ZS211.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdhid.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouhid.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\PROGRAM FILES\EMSISOFT ANTI-MALWARE\a2accx86.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndisuio.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\wdmaud.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\sysaudio.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\splitter.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\aec.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\swmidi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\DMusic.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\kmixer.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\drmkaud.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxdav.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ParVdm.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\HTTP.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\PROCEXP140.SYS
Loaded driver \??\C:\Program Files\Lavalys\EVEREST Ultimate Edition\kerneld.wnt


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#26
February 14, 2012 at 05:23:17
Dear RMT2 I made two boot logs today, the first one was made when the problem of incorrect video drivers were loaded and I got a black screen.

The second boot log was made when everything worked on the second boot look at my DIFFERENTIAL report do you see what I see ?

http://www.book-stores.com/boot-log...

Michelle


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#27
February 14, 2012 at 05:25:25
It looks like this file a2u5ue4l.SYS

Could be the cause of all my trouble, I am going to do a diff on that file and the other.

Update: very strange they don't exist ? I can't find them!!!

Michelle


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#28
February 14, 2012 at 05:37:53
Yes, it looks like something with that file. You could try moving it to another location on the HDD and see if your computer works.

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#29
February 14, 2012 at 06:19:07
What is EMSISOFT ANTI-MALWARE? Try uninstalling it.

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#30
February 14, 2012 at 06:52:17
Emisoft is not the cause, I used to have the same problem before I ever used it, it is my AntiVirus Program

http://www.emsisoft.com/en/?ref=r_5...

I just managed to get the code I wanted I rebooted in safe mode after waiting 30 minutes here is what was outputted.

PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E1&SUBSYS_3E201462&REV_A2\4&2B6E8868&0&0008: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
1 matching device(s) found on \\Venus6.


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#31
February 14, 2012 at 06:59:24
Also I found something Interesting about those files, when my computer is acting up and loading the wrong driver this file EXISTS a2u5ue4l.SYS and acfwyk8y.SYS DOES NOT EXIST.

When my computer boots normally and the right drivers are loaded this file a2u5ue4l.SYS DOES NOT EXIST and this file acfwyk8y.SYS Does exist.

so we are getting closer to the problem, however I am going to need some help in an idea I have, I thought if during boot up from the config.sys we can substitue

IF EXIST a2u5ue4l.SYS copy acfwyk8y.SYS rename acfwyk8y.SYS a2u5ue4l.SYS

Maybe that will work ?

But it must run from AUTOEXEC.BAT but with NTFS file system I do not think AUTOEXEC.BAT is used ?

Michelle


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#32
February 14, 2012 at 07:01:21
I'm suggesting you uninstall it, because it appears to be related to that a2u5ue4l.SYS file you're trying to kill.

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#33
February 14, 2012 at 07:08:59
Razor ahhh, well I have a tool here called AUTORUNS I can disable ALL of the drivers and program loading of that program if need be it is on here www.sysinternals.com
http://download.sysinternals.com/Fi...

I will disable it first including all the drivers it uses but I do not think it is the cause, it most likely is struggling to load because when my video drivers are messed up it effects all video and may cause Emisoft to have problems starting.

I will test this Razor2.3

UPDATE: In fact it will be more productive to create a fresh boot log by booting in SAFE mode that will only load the basic system drivers and files, I will then compare those, the point being it does not load emisoft at all in safe mode yet it does load the wrong video driver on first boot after 30 minutes I am slowly narrowing down how long it needs to be turned off to show the problem also.

Michelle


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#34
February 14, 2012 at 09:59:39
I have just completed aother comparison it does not help me much, both these were made by booting into safe mode, the entry on the left was made when booting after the PC was turned off for 30 minutes and the entry on the right was made when doing a reboot as indicated by the time near the top.

http://www.book-stores.com/SAFE-boo...

I wish someone could figure out what is going on here because it beats me oO :(

And those files we saw before are not present at least I can't see them, so it does look like they are only created once the driver is loaded and as I booted in safe mode on these 2 occasions it points more to bios or root drivers somewhere.

Michelle


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#35
February 14, 2012 at 12:22:53
I am slowly narrowing down how long it needs to be turned off to show the problem also.
You're probably better off going by the temperature of the internals instead of time.

Have you tried cleaning and re-seating the video card? Another video card? AGP was retired a number of years ago, so I can imagine those cards are starting to reach their EoL.

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#36
February 14, 2012 at 13:46:43
Hi Razor2.3, I can understand why you think it's heat related but it does not matter if its summer or winter I have internal temperature monitoring so I can see the internal temperatures of the motherboard, cpu, Graphics card and my PC has 6 fans inside 2 case fans, 1 cpu fan, 2 hard drive fan's and a AGP card fan, the air inside the case is very well circulated. A few months ago I also cleaned my AGP port socket as it had a lot of dirt on the contacts, I did this because their was a day when I lost my video completely and after reseating the card a couple of time it cured the problem but then a week later I decided to use a special pcb width piece of card dipped in servison switch cleaner, it cleaned quite a bit of dirt off the contacts.

I could understand why you think its heat related but remember it is not randomly picking a wrong card it is always the 7600 GS it has to get that data from somewhere right ?

eol well it depends on how heavy usage it gets, I have some electronics background I recently replaced 4 damaged capacitors on the AGP card, if you read back to what I said earlier when I had the 7600 GS card installed in 2005 it had a driver called @bios which comes with the GIGABYTE card I did not understand until later but I believe this was designed for GIGABYTE motherboards. I did not see any warning message when I installed the drivers but I do believe it flashed something into my bios.
http://uk.gigabyte.com/support-down...

Michelle

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#37
February 14, 2012 at 13:58:02
You can see the reported temperatures after it boots, at which point the internals have reached operating temperature. I'm far more concerned with the first 30 seconds, when everything is still cold.

EDIT: I just noticed 3/4 of the posts here are about hardware related. This topic needs fixing.

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#38
February 14, 2012 at 14:34:21
Razor I am trying to find a work around, running a batch file after the drivers load I have the batch file it just won't run early enough.

Regarding temperature, I can start my pc when the internal temperature is around 43 degree's the bad driver issue is present, I can immediately reboot upon rebot the internal temperature of the GPU still shows 45 degree's c and the video problem has gone.

Other days I can turn off my pc when the temperature is 60 degree's c, wait 30 minutes the fans not running while its off, re-start my pc and the temperature is 50c only dropped 10c, and video card is detected wrong again.

I had this same query from people 2 years ago I already eliminated the temperature theory.

NOTE: I am not disguising anything I made a post in the hardware section because I was not sure how to solve this, I am NOT trying to be clever I just need a solution thanks.

Michelle


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#39
February 14, 2012 at 17:02:21
Dear Razor2.3
Well I started pulling my hair out over this so I just pulled out my cmos battery, left it turned off for 30 minutes, replaced it with a new one I had laying around and I also when I started my pc went into bios settings set everything up again and left it on the thermal monitoring screen and waited for the temperature to climb to 107 f, 45c abouts.

Well thank you Razor2.3 looks like you could be right, might also be the clearing of cemos so I am now down to 2 possible's will let you know if you win a stuffed animal :)

Michelle xxx

PS, I have a boot loader that has a timer on it I set it to the maximum of 99 seconds before it boots my PC should give it time to warm up if that's the case?


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#40
February 14, 2012 at 17:34:05
Well, I'm glad you are making progress Ortorea :).

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#41
February 15, 2012 at 06:05:41
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It's hard to say. I don't know what's broke on the video card, and I'm not familiar with the particulars of ACPI implementation. Maybe a 60 second pause in the boot loader will fix it, maybe the system just needs to be rebooted after 10 seconds.

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#42
February 15, 2012 at 07:15:20
Well Just woke up PC has been off-line for 8 hours I switched it on and let the 99 second boot delay play it's role, sadly to no avail had no video as it had loaded the wrong driver again (blank screen) at least my batch file was able to work this time it did an auto reboot, so Now I am going to do some shopping and will turn it off for about an hour when I get back I will switch it on and leave it in bios setup until the temperature gets to 47c abouts say about 10 minutes and then boot and see what transpires :/

Michelle xxx


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#43
February 15, 2012 at 09:28:37
I just got back after my PC was off from 15:39:08 to 16:56 I checked the event log and subtracted the 10 minutes I allowed PC to warm up in bios hardware monitoring, at turn on the thermal temp for the CPU was 31c after 10 minutes it was 43c at which point I exited the bios set-up hardware monitoring page and booted up 99 seconds later as my boot loader is set to delay.

Well everything worked ok so does look like some sort of thermal problem, perhaps a bad capacitor on the motherboard or something bios related when cold, I know it is not the AGP card socket as I cleaned that recently, wish I had another AGP card to try sadly the only other card I have is the DAM 7600 GS so no point putting that back it as it will not help find the problem. Will probably just have to live with it until I get a new motherboard :(

Michelle


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#44
April 9, 2012 at 14:26:33
UPDATE: Finally got a new computer :)

Michelle xxxx


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#45
April 9, 2012 at 19:20:56
I was wondering why this appeared in my tracked posts list again :).

LOL I had my own video card problems with an old, beat up ATi All in Wonder 9800 Card. I ended up giving up on the thing for the second time :(. I did actually get it to work, but only for about 5 minutes.

What's the model of your new computer?


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#46
April 9, 2012 at 20:33:10
Hey RMT2 Nice seeing that your still following my thread I bought the parts over several weeks and still buying parts for it my next plan is a solid state drive. What I got was this:

MB Bundle
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120842465034

Video
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110801182477

PSU
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280754464830

cooling
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310383524980

It will do me until I can save for better video card but works very well.

Michelle


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#47
April 10, 2012 at 06:36:49
It sure looks like it works well. I would eventually like to get a computer with something like an Core i7 in it, but the best I have right now is a Core i3.

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#48
April 10, 2012 at 14:23:41
Dear RMT2 well I am sure you will get there, prices are falling all the time I have noticed, currently I got a SATA http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250985473126

and DVD http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290666583985

The only bottle neck I have right now is the HD so I think a http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251015139574 type drive will be good.

Michelle


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#49
April 10, 2012 at 19:17:13
Looks like you're building a powerful computer. If you really want to add more performance, then you could go with the SSD, but even the original SATA you were looking at looks like it'll be fine for what you're building. If you're trying to go for a silent machine, then a SSD would be the best choice.

Don't trust my answers though, I'm just a 14 yr. old trying to figure out the performance of parts and making an educated guess :).


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#50
April 11, 2012 at 00:43:22
Dear RMT2, Age has little to do with it were computers are concerned I find young minds are often much faster at computers these days, my daughter just amazes me how fast she can type lol I am pretty much a one finger typist haha but still we all learn some tricks. Yes I am trying to build a silent / fast computer I hate the constant whooshing and hum of computers after a few hours my ears start ringing and when I turn the computer off I can still hear the dam ringing in my ears.I spend a lot of time making air filters and noise dampers out of cardboard tubes with carpet underlay lining the inside. I made these for all my 3 computers, one server pc which is on most of the time just running voice and ftp servers. and my new computer has a nylon stocking inside a square cardboard tube attached to the air intake to keep dirt and dust for entering my new pc. I find that its easier to clean one stocking than spend hours cleaning fans and heat-sinks also the dust impedes performance and heat dissipation. My filters work very well and the new computer runs much cooler and quieter than my old computer.

I am at the moment trying to sort out my relatives computer no one has seen my post yet do you know anyone who can help ? http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

All the best Michelle xxx


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