Update graphics

August 11, 2009 at 11:53:31
Specs: Windows XP
I have windows xp sp2 with intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller. I wanted to update my graphics. And is there any way to accelerate graphics or should i use ram for graphics best performance? Is there any way to do these give me whole procedure to do it.

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#1
August 11, 2009 at 13:34:32

Post the manufacturer and model of your PC.

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#2
August 11, 2009 at 14:05:22
State the make and model of your brand name computer or your desktop mboard.

You may be able to update the drivers for your existing graphics hardware (chipset; in your case it's built into one of the two main chipset chips) - go to the Intel web site - download the latest graphics drivers for the 865 chipsets and install them - un-install any video drivers listed in Add/Remove Programs BEFORE you install them - but you can't update the graphics hardware unless you can install another one.

Generally..........
- you often can't update the graphics adapter hardware (chipset) on a laptop because it's usually not removable, but if you don't mind connecting an external monitor to it, you can buy a USB or other display adapter that you can plug in and attach a monitor to that.
- if your computer is a desktop computer, we need to know whether you have un-used slots available on the mboard and what types they are - PCI, and/or either one of AGP, or PCI-E X16 (yours may have an AGP slot) .
.......

"...is there any way to accelerate graphics or should i use ram for graphics best performance?"

- You presently have onboard video - video built into the mboard. You can often change how much ram is shared with the onboard video in the bios Setup for the mboard - sharing more ram may help. Other than that, the amount of ram you have installed in the mboard won't affect graphics performance much if any, as long as there is more than a minimal amount of ram installed ( e.g. you probably won't notice any difference if 512mb or more is installed).

- some older Intel main chipsets only perform as fast as they can AFTER you have loaded the Intel Application Accelerator program. If that has been loaded it's in your Programs list in Windows.
If that hasn't been loaded, go to the Intel web site, and if the Intel Application Accelerator is listed in the downloads for the 865 chipset series, download it, and install it - you WILL notice the difference.
NOTE that the main chipset drivers for the 865 chipset must be installed before you install the IAA, if the IAA is listed. If you're not sure whether they were installed, download the INF Update Utility from the same place and install that first.

- sharing the mboard ram with onboard video greatly limits the max bandwidth (max data transfer rate) the ram can achieve - it as much as halves it. When you can install a graphics card in a slot and use that instead, usually the onboard video is automatically disabled (if it's an AGP or PCI-E card) when you install the card, and if so the ram installed in the mboard no longer shares it's ram with the mboard video, and then the ram is able to achieve it's full rated bandwidth. In other words, your same amount of mboard ram performs better, most noticable when you are doing something that works better when the ram has a better bandwidth, if you are using ANY card in a slot rather than onboard video, in addition to the benefit of having more ram avaliable for Windows that was formerly shared with the onboard video.

- the amount of ram on a graphics card in a slot mostly determines how well the card performs at higher resolutions. If you don't have a huge monitor, and/or are not using a really high resolution, having more ram on the card makes no difference in graphics performance - e.g. the max frames per second, because you're not using the capability more ram enables.
If you don't have a huge monitor, and/or are not using a really high resolution, for the same graphics chipset having various amounts of ram on the card it can be installed along with, 64mb, 128mb (older video chipset cards) , or 256mb (newer video chipset cards) will be fine for what you require for your monitor, rather than larger amounts.


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#3
August 15, 2009 at 01:01:09
Thank you Tubesandwires for your responce but could you tell me step by step because i have very low knowledge about graphics so tell me first step which would i have to follow. And how can i tell you which graphics are installed on my pc?

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#4
August 15, 2009 at 13:36:01
You have already told me you have a 82865G Graphics Controller.

What you have not told us is which brand name system or mboard you have, and what number and types of empty slots are available on it, and for a desktop system, what the power supply capacity in watts (max output) is.

If I know the make and model of a brand name desktop system, I can usually find the original PS capacity myself.

If you have a generic desktop system, I also need you to find what power supply capacity in watts (max output) is.
Unplug the case/power supply.
Power off your monitor.
Open up the case by removing the left panel as seen when you're looking at the front of the case. Some Dell cases have a latch you must push one way rather than screws you must remove at the back of the case.
Look at the label on the power supply. If you don't see a label, it'sprobably on thetop or other side of it - remove the power supply to find the label. Usually you remove it by simply removing 4 screws at the back of the case on the outside where the PS fan grille is - in some cases there are also one or two more screws on the oppsite end of the PS inside the case you must also remove.
Find and tell us what the power supply capacity in watts (max output) is.

Tell us the make and model of your brand name computer or your desktop mboard.

The specific model of a brand name computer is on a label on the outside of the case somewhere, or you can often go the the brand name builder's web site and determine that - by using acode on a label, or sometimes you can have them determine that automatically if you access the site with the computer you want to know about.

The model, and sometimes the brand, of the mboard on a generic system is usually printed in obvious larger characters on the surface of the mboard, often in between slots or in the middle of the mboard.

If the system is working, in either case
- sometimes a logo (graphical) screen is displayed while booting that has the brand and model displayed on it.
- sometimes the model number is displayed in plain text on the first black screen you see while booting (as well as, sometimes, the hard drive and cd or dvd drive models, or the bios version number, or a bios ID string, usually at the bottom of the first page).
- sometimes the model is shown in the mboard's bios Setup


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#5
August 19, 2009 at 08:49:54
my mother board is Giga-Byte GA-8I865GVMF-775 Motherboard and i have graphic controller of intel(R) 82865G. My pc is assemble and there is no particular manufacturer is there but i have lg monitor of flatron E700SH, it has 100-240v and 50/60 Hz with 2.0A and i have microsoft windows xp professional sp3 version 2002. Pentium(R)4 cpu 2.66 GHz to 2.67 GHz, 1.23 GB RAM. And if i have still fogot to tell you more about any thing tell me and i will check and reply you

Thanks..... :)


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#6
August 19, 2009 at 08:51:04
You can also go on this website to know more about my mboard http://www.crucial.com/store/listpa...

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#7
August 19, 2009 at 10:09:56
This board only has pci slots...no pci-e or agp.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products...

To be blunt, you'll never make a gamer out of your machine. Graphics can be improved but choices are limited and relatively expensive.

Skip


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#8
August 19, 2009 at 10:20:10
This is about the best you can expect to do.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Skip


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#9
August 19, 2009 at 11:14:03
but how can i update or accelerate my graphics

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#10
August 19, 2009 at 13:27:27
You purchase a pci video card and install it in your computer. There is no magic to make your onboard graphics faster.

You also need to read the stuff Tubesandwires took the time to write.

Also, please note the card I linked to above is worth about as much as your entire computer. Lesser cards will cost less but no pci card will give you a great return for your money.

Skip


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#11
August 20, 2009 at 00:00:45
What country are you in?
Newegg.com does not ship outside the USA
Newegg.ca generally has the same stuff, will ship to Canada.
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Support for your mboard model:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products...

Manual http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/...

Click on the link to view the manual on the web.

RIGHT click on the link, chooseSave File As or similar to download the manual to your computer.
Better download speed for me - Europe.


Page 13, 14 - Installation of memory
- if you want to add more ram

Page 15 - Installation of Expansion cards
- including PCI video cards

Page 18 - ATX_12V/ATX (Power Connector)
- the main power connectors the Power Supply must be connected to - if you need to install a power supply with more capacity.


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#12
August 20, 2009 at 06:55:29
i m from india

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#13
August 20, 2009 at 09:41:01
If you want to possibly improve the onboard graphics performance, see Response 2 starting at:
"...is there any way to accelerate graphics or should i use ram for graphics best performance?"

"Pentium(R)4 cpu 2.66 GHz to 2.67 GHz"

Your cpu speed is okay, for this mboard.

"1.23 GB RAM "

You have more than enough ram, but you have quoted the wrong figure.
Quote this:
Start - Run - type: msinfo32 (click OK or press Enter)
Total Physical Memory

If you want to try changing the amount of ram shared with the onboard video, see the bios Setup info in the manual I referred you to in Response 11.
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I need you to find the power supply capacity.

Unplug the case/power supply.
Power off your monitor.
Open up the case by removing the left panel as seen when you're looking at the front of the case.

See response 4 starting at
"If you have a generic desktop system, I also need you to find what power supply capacity in watts (max output) is."

.........

"i m from india"

In that case, SkipCox's link in Response 8 is of no use to you.

I tried searching here, with the country set to India, for PCI video cards, but I did not find much.
http://in.search.yahoo.com/web/adva...

Almost all "hits" are for PCI-E or PCI Express cards, which you cannot use with your mboard.
I even tried setting the search to exclude "hits" for express or pci-e.
I tried searching for SPARKLE 9400GT PCI, 9400GT PCI, 2400Pro PCI, to no avail.

Sparkle's web site is poor.

You could try searching here - it does not work properly for me in Canada :
http://shop.ebay.in/
Search for video cards or PCI video cards

There were a few "hits" for used PCI video cards but they were OLD - if you installed that your video performance would probably be worse, not better.

I did find this -
Zebronics Graphics Card Price List India – Nvidia Video Cards
http://www.newtechnology.co.in/zebr...
Two PCI cards bottom of list

However, they do not list those on their web site (Zebronics is a chain of local stores in India)
http://zebronics.net/

Link on that page to MSI (India) products
http://in.msi.com/
BUT - absolutely no PCI or AGP graphics cards listed - PCI-E only

You could try phoning one of their locations:
http://zebronics.net/contactus.asp
.....

Otherwise,
- if you know someone who knows more about computers and might know places in India you can buy PCI video cards, locally or on the web, ask them if they can help you find one.
- you may have to order a PCI video card from another country - you could try searching with this set to another country:
http://in.search.yahoo.com/web/adva...

When you do find a PCI video card, look for customer support information about which countries they can ship to.

Sometimes ebay "hits" will ship to many countries.
......

I have a Powercolor Radeon 2400Pro PCI card that's pretty good - it supports DirectX 10 and user reviews say it plays most recent games just fine, model is HD2400Pro 256m PCI - but it does have a glitch.
It has no fan - it has a large heatsink instead - the heatsink makes the card the max allowed thickness overall, or maybe a little over that. If you have other PCI cards in your PCI slots, it's best to install this card in the PCI slot closest to the outside of the mboard, otherwise you may not be able to physically install a PCI card in the slot next to it.
If you can physically install a PCI card in the slot next to it, you will probably have to use a thin piece of cardboard between this card and the next one to prevent the card's heatsink from possibly shorting to something the back of the card next to it.
Asus made a similar Radeon 2400Pro PCI card - it also has a large heatsink but it appears to be thinner - you may be able to find that on the web.
Radeon 2400XT is a bit better, but I haven't found any that are PCI.



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#14
August 20, 2009 at 22:31:55
total physical memory is 1,280.00 MB

Thanks by the way you mean i can only upgrade my graphics not update it. And is there any software which acceleratos or gives extreme performance of graphics?

Thanks again for your helpfull manner


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#15
August 20, 2009 at 22:34:54
As you have told me that i can increase BIOS mb then how can i do it. Let udrestand whole thing in such way that that i don't know anything about it.

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#16
August 21, 2009 at 10:24:34
I made a similar post last night but lost it when I clicked on Submit - 504? server Timeout error, or similar, then could not get this siteto load again then.
This site was behaving weird for me yesterday.
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PLEASE answer this.,..

For the THIRD time....

I need you to find the power supply capacity.

Unplug the case/power supply.
Power off your monitor.
Open up the case by removing the left panel as seen when you're looking at the front of the case.

See response 4 starting at
"If you have a generic desktop system, I also need you to find what power supply capacity in watts (max output) is."
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"total physical memory is 1,280.00 MB"

You have enough ram for this mboard to run XP quite well for almost any program.

Your mboard bios apparently does not subtract the amount of ram shared with the onboard video from the total ram installed, so I cannot tell how much ram is being used by the onboard video.

You have 4 ram slots, and you have at least two ram modules (1gb = 1024mb, 256mb), but you may have 3 or 4 modules.

"....you mean i can only upgrade my graphics not update it.."

You MAY be able to make the mboard and the onboard video perform a bit better as it is now, but if you install ANY video card in a slot, your video performance will be MUCH better and you WILL notice the difference.

"And is there any software which acceleratos or gives extreme performance of graphics? "

I've already answered a similar question from you.
You have more than enough ram.

See the part in Response 2 starting at:
"...is there any way to accelerate graphics or should i use ram for graphics best performance?"

Will that yield you "....extreme performance of graphics?" - NO!

Installing a decent video card in a slot will improve your video performance a lot, but it still won't be "extreme performance of graphics". You would need a better mboard, ram, cpu, a PCI-E video card, and possibly a better power supply for that (a better system).

"As you have told me that i can increase BIOS mb then how can i do it."

You can't change the total amount of ram in the bios, but you can change the amount of the installed ram that is shared with the onboard video in the bios Setup settings - apparently the default amount is 16mb, max is 32mb - that's not much - information about that is in the bios Setup information in the first manual I have a link to in response 11 - however that will only make a little bit of improvement in video perforamance at best. You could try that, but if you have committed yourself to buying a video card, then you do not need to bother with that.




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#17
August 22, 2009 at 01:08:48
i have lg monitor of flatron E700SH, it has 100-240v and 50/60 Hz with 2.0A

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#18
August 22, 2009 at 07:46:00
You're not "getting" it.
That's the monitor.

You most likely have a desktop tower computer case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comput...
I need you to open up your computer case by removing the left side panel as seen from the front of the case, and find the power supply
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comput...
and read the label on it to find the maximum total power output in watts.


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