Trouble with Asus EAH5670 graphics card

November 13, 2011 at 13:29:09
Specs: Windows 7
Hi all, so a freind just gave me his Asus EAH5670 1gb graphics card. There was no drivers installation CD so i've downloaded and installed the drivers from amd.

However i'm using my VGA and HDMI cablkes to conect to two monitors, but the annoying thing is i can't get the picture on the HDMI monitor to be what i would consider a good quality, the VGA montor prodcues a better picture?

Any ideas why that might be? i haven't removed my drivers for my past card a Nvidia 210? not sure if i need to as they won't be working? Also i've tried all resolution and colour settings etc and all don't produce a crisp pictures, infact the colour is harsh no matter what, and the icons and images seem very pixelated.

I'm not a computer wis, but help would be appreciated.


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#1
November 13, 2011 at 13:58:43
http://support.asus.com/download.as...

You should be getting the drivers from here. Uninstall all the drivers you have installed so far including the drivers for your old card. Then install the new card and drivers.


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#2
November 13, 2011 at 15:15:46
The drivers have got nothing to do with your problem. All modern video cards that have an ATI video chipset can use the drivers on the AMD web site.

What are you connecting to on the other end of the HDMI connection ?

The resolution you use for the HDMI display in Windows must be suitable for whatever is on the other end of the HDMI cable

If it's a TV on the other end of the HDMI cable, READ the manual for the TV !

If it's a computer monitor on the other end of the HDMI cable, READ the manual for the monitor !

Control Panel - set the drop down View as to Small icons or Large icons

Click on Display

Click on Advanced settings.
That's where you set the Resolution.

One display icon is for your VGA or DVI port output, the other one is for your HDMI output.
,
Click on the one for the HDMI output BEFORE you set the proper resolution for it.
........

All LCD, Plasma, and LED LCD displays have an "optimal" or "native" resolution - if you use that resolution, what's displayed on the screen looks the best it can be.

If you choose other resolutions, what's displayed on the screen WILL NOT look as good, the most noticable thing being the Windows fonts / type WILL NOT be as clear.

The cheaper your model of TV or computer monitor is, the more likely other resolutions will look a lot worse.

If you use a resolution other than the optimal" or "native" resolution ....

Turn on Clear Type in Windows XP or Vista or Windows 7 - makes type / fonts on LCD screens look clearer.
http://www.microsoft.com/typography...


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#3
November 15, 2011 at 12:23:38
Hi, thanks for the help!

I'm using a monitor that can adapt to a TV, an LG flatron M2262D

I'll look into the manuals, and see if they are any use, however i've set the resolutions at all the options and none seem to fit smoothly, with 1920x1080 being recomended?

I plug the HDMI direct from the graphics card into the only HDMI slot on the back of the monitor/tv... I'll look into the manuals and try and download the drivers again.

How do i uninstall the drivers already on there? (sorry for the stupid question)


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#4
November 15, 2011 at 13:09:09
"i haven't removed my drivers for my past card a Nvidia 210? not sure if i need to as they won't be working?"

When you install a card with an ATI video chipset, the previous specific drivers for a NVidia video chipset would not be loaded in any case.
However, that software is using drive space - you might as well un-install them if you don't intend on ever installing the NVidia card again.

However, if the previous card had an ATI video chipset, the previous specific drivers for an ATI video chipset may not work with the present ATI video chipset - the previous specfic drivers for an ATI video chipset should be un-installed BEFORE you install specific drivers for the preseny ATI video chipset, preferably BEFORE you you plug in the video card.

"How do i uninstall the drivers already on there?"

You go to Programs and Features in Vista or Windows 7 (in XP back to Win 95, you go to Add or Remove Programs). Find the listing for the siftware you want to un-install, click on it, Un-install it. There may be more than one of those for a video adapter. You may need to go back there to un-install all of them. ATI video adapter software often have a selection that un-installs all other listings for the ATI video adapter software.

E.g. in Windows 7, click on Computer, in the bar at the top select Uninstall or Change a Program
Or - Control Panel - set the View as setting to Small icons or Large icons, NOT Categories
- Programs and Features

"Also i've tried all resolution and colour settings etc and all don't produce a crisp pictures, infact the colour is harsh no matter what, and the icons and images seem very pixelated."

The strength of the colors is primarily set on the display itself at the other end of the HDMI, VGA, or DVI cable.
When that is more than, say, a year or two old, it's usually NOT a good idea to use default settings - Auto or Preset settings - they often get out of whack as the display ages. Custom set the settings - Contrast, Brightness, Color strength or similar, etc., so the colors are how you like them to look. Set the brightness low enough so it looks bright enough but the colors - especially red - are not excessively strong. The same applies to TV displays.
A side note - if the display is bright enough for everything except for certain games or movies played in Windows, the brightness can usually be set in settings for the game or in the program that plays the movie, rather than you increasing the brightness on the display itself for everything.

LCD, LED LCD, and Plasma displays have only ONE resolution setting that they look best set to. They will NOT look as good when set to other resolutions.
(That does NOT apply to CRT - tube - monitors,)


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#5
November 15, 2011 at 13:34:52
LG Flatron M2262D (info and support)
http://www.lg.com/uk/it-products/mo...

16 X 9 aspect ratio
(the whole number ratio of the width of the physical screen to it's height)
1920 X 1080 is probably the "optimal" or "native" resolution.

Support tab - Manual and brochure:
Manual.....

- it's YOUR task to look in that large manual for the resolution settings.
If in doubt, try 1920 X 1080 in Windows for this TV / monitor's display.

- page 15 of the manual, page 17 of the *.pdf document

"HDMI input does not support PC mode, the screen may not be displayed properly."
.......

The display will be fine on the M2262D if you use
- the VGA (RBG) port on the TV / monitor and on the video card, with a VGA to VGA cable.

- the DVI port on the TV / monitor and on the video card, with a DVI to DVI cable

- a standard DVI (male) to VGA (female) gender adapter (the card may have originally come with that) on the DVI port on the video card and the VGA (RBG) port on the TV / monitor. with a VGA to VGA cable.

- a DVI to VGA cable with the DVI port on the video card and the VGA port on the TV / monitor.

(The opposite to that cannot work - the VGA port on the video card. or the DVI to VGA gender adapter on the DVI port on the video card, doesn't have enough connections to produce a display when connected to the DVI port on the TV / monitor.)

If you want audio from the computer on the TV / monitor, you will need to connect (a) suitable cable(s) for that to the proper inputs on the TV (usually that's a cable with a 1/8" stereo plug on the computer end to two male RCA male plugs, or the equivalent separate components that do the same thing, that plug into a red and white female RCA jack on the TV).


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#6
November 15, 2011 at 14:03:34
Tubesandwires, you are a legend, i had a look in the manual like you said and in-fact your right HDMI does not support pc mode so look like i'll have to get a DVI cable.

Again cheers man! you have helped alot! the PC mode through the TV hdmi was in-fact what i hoped to get, as i was hoping for a true 1080 hd outcome, but the VGA produces a fair picture anyway, so it'll be DVG with my PC monitor and VGA on the LG..

I'll follow up with the resolution, but i was running on 1920x1080 when using the VGA conector. so that should be fine with the DVG if i use that right?

Cheers buddy


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#7
November 15, 2011 at 14:35:35
Thanks for the Cheers.

I suspect you're in the UK, or at least, the TV / monitor is probably a UK model - North American TVs, or TV / monitors, don't have the SCART connector like your model does.

I'm in western Canada myself, in Alberta.

The "optimal" or "native" resolution you use being the one that looks best is because of a physical limitation of the display assembly - the size of the pixels in it (CRT computer monitor pixels are much smaller, especially on the later models). LCD TV / monitors probably have smaller pixels than earlier LCD TV only models, if they even existed.
The higher the numbers in the "native" or"optimal" resolution, the smaller the pixels, relative to the size of the display.

That doesn't change when you change the type of connection you're using.

HDMI has the same output as DVI, except it also has built in wiring for audio support. Why HDMI output can't produce a good display in PC mode on this monitor ? I have no idea. Other TV / monitor models can.

We have heard of other problems with a HDMI connection for computer video displays.
E.g. No video while booting BEFORE Windows loads, despite the fact a DVI or VGA connection doesn't do that.
.......


Pixels on TV only CRT displays are relatively large - the computer output looks relatively coarse with a SVideo or composite video connection and you have to use a TV out connection on the video adapter which converts the computer video output to use a specfic resolution in Windows at a 50 Hz (e.g.in the UK) or 60 Hz (e.g. in North America) vertical refesh rate.


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