Songs taking up too much memory on ipod touch

Apple Ipod touch 8gb black mp3 player
January 22, 2010 at 10:55:11
Specs: Windows Vista, ee
Basically, the ipod touch is supposed to hold up to 1700 songs (8gb) Mine is only allowing me to have 900 before it is completly full. None of them are that long - longest is about 5 mins. I have no videos, or games, and about 5 applications. Erm, why is it taking up so much space on my ipod? is it an ipod problem or something with my itunes? sorry if this is in wrong section, i just cant find anything about this anywhere.

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January 22, 2010 at 11:28:06
The number they say it can hold is just an estimation. What determines the amount is what bitrate they are encoded at and the length of the song. The higher the bitrate, the larger the file will be. They may be estimating songs with a low bitrate (say 112kbps) while your songs may be encoded at a higher rate such as 128, 160, 192, 224 etc. kbps.

It also depends on how much space the application is. And if the application holds data, such as a database or some sort of record keeping, that will also take up memory.

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January 22, 2010 at 11:32:13
Many music player manufacturers assume that their users encode 3-minute MP3/AAC/WMA files at a measly 128kbps.

128kbps sounds awful, so you're probably encoding at least 192kbps, if not 224, 256, or even 320. I'm not sure what bitrate iTunes defaults to.

Obviously, the higher the bit rate, the bigger the file. If you don't mind the lower quality, you could re-encode all of your files at a lower bit rate. Or, you could leave your favourite tunes at a high rate and re-encode your meh tunes at 160kbps. This is kinda what I've been doing; I rip my favourite CDs to FLAC-lossless, and rip the others to 320K MP3.

Edit: THX 1138 beat me to it.

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January 22, 2010 at 12:27:06
Yeah, their song estimate is for 128kbps and 4 minutes per song.

Footnote 3 at the bottom of the page.


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January 22, 2010 at 12:47:37
Thanks for the help guys, I'll try to re-encode some of the
songs, any ideas on how you do this?

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January 22, 2010 at 14:51:22
There are many programs out there that can help you re-encode the songs. You can find a plethora of free ones at

Be warned though, re-encoding the songs to a lower bitrate will make them sound much worse then just starting fresh and encoding them to a lower bitrate. Every time you encode a song you end up with compression artifacts.

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