SATA DVD drive not detected on ASUS K8VSE DX

October 31, 2010 at 15:14:51
Specs: Windows XP sp3, AMD Athlon64 3200 2.2Gb/2Gb RAM
Hi all

I've searched far and wide, fiddled to my heart's content, but cannot get my Mobo to detect my new SATA DVD drive.

My Mobo is an ASUS K8VSE Deluxe - I know, an oldie, but a goodie.

I've had to replace my IDE DVD drive, and bought an ASUS DRW-24B1ST SATA DVD optical drive.

The former IDE DVD drive was connected with a data cable to the CD ROM drive, which was connected to the mobo.

I've now connected the SATA DVD drive to a power source, and it's opening and closing as it should.

However, I was unsure where to connect the SATA data cable. I have SATA Pri and SATA Sec ports, as well as SATA 1 and SATA 2. After much reading on the net, I have connected it to SATA 1

My hard drive is an IDE model.

I can't find any information on the net regarding installing a SATA DVD drive when the Hard drive and other optical drives are IDE.

IE a mix of IDE and SATA drives.

I can't find any drivers anywhere, have tried both the ASUS website for the mobo and the DVD drive.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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October 31, 2010 at 17:53:08
Look in your BIOS to see if you have sata enabled.

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October 31, 2010 at 21:47:06
Thanks grasshopper, but I have already tried.

BIOS set-up at the moment:

Boot priority is floppy - HDD - CDROM (all IDE)

I've enabled SATA Boot ROM

I cannot find any way of enabling SATA

The Mobo has an onboard SATA RAID controller - but I do not want to set up a RAID array, I would like to keep the HDD and CDROM as they are, as IDE, and have the new DVD as SATA.

If all else fails, I'll have to ditch the SATA DVD and source a DVD with IDE interface...

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November 1, 2010 at 00:26:12
I looked at two English versions of your mboard manual, e1491 (oldest) and e1872 (newest) .

You have TWO drive controllers, both are combo IDE / SATA

The Manual says the Promise 20378 one does NOT support recognizing ATAPI devices - CD and DVD drives - IDE or SATA..

What it DOESN'T say is the Via VT8237 chipset, which includes the Via drive controller, supports recognizing IDE ATAPI drives, but it does NOT support recognizing SATA ATAPI - CD and DVD - drives.

E.g. I found this on the web:


I'm having problems configuring the MB to be able to boot from a
SATA DVD-ROM drive. The problem seems to be that the SATA
controller does not see the DVD as a bootable device, so does not
list it as an option in the boot order setting in bios.

SATA controller:SouthBridge VIA VT8237 SATA


ASUS support is indicating this VIA SATA controller does not
support ATAPI devices. period.

- I found many "hits" thay say VT8237 supports IDE ATAPI, no mention of SATA ATAPI

On the other hand, the successors to that, VT8237R and VT8237R Plus, DO support SATA ATAPI.


There is NO advantage to a CD or DVD drive connecting via a SATA connection, other than convenience. No current CD or DVD drive can run any faster than UDMA 66 speeds, and they probably never will, due to the limitations of how fast an optical disk can spin.

"I can't find any drivers anywhere, have tried both the ASUS website for the mobo and the DVD drive."

You don't need drivers for SATA DVD drives. They're generic and are built into XP.

XP requires that SP1 or later updates be installed in order for it to recognize SATA drive controllers.

There is no such model as Asus K8VSE Deluxe

It's ASUS K8V SE Deluxe

Drivers and manuals

Go here:

Type in K8V SE Deluxe in the Input Model to Search Box

The drive controllers are both capable of RAID, but you do not have to set up a RAID array - that's always optional.
A RAID array usually requires at least two hard drives be connected to the same drive controller, and CD and DVD drives cannot be in a RAID array.
A drive controller capable of RAID can run in plain SATA or IDE mode.
Update - the Via SATA controller component can't run in an IDE compatible mode.

There is an IDE Configuration heading shown in the Bios in the manual, but there is no info about what the settings are in it.
I suspect that's where you can set the Via drive controller to RAID or non-RAID mode. Plain SATA mode is a.k.a. AHCI or JBOD mode.
Update - I got that wrong - JBOD is a RAID mode.

"I've enabled SATA Boot ROM"

That's probably for the Via RAID utility.
Update - the following may apply only to the Promise controller.
If the Via SATA RAID utility won't pop up when you press Tab while booting, then this probably must be enabled for that.
When it's enabled, a line probably pops up early while booting, asking if you want to set up RAID - if you don't press the specified key, the boot continues after about 5 seconds.

The Promise controller can be Enabled / Disabled in the bios settings.
It has it's own rom (bios) too.
When it's enabled, there is a setting for
Operating mode - RAID or Onboard IDE Operate mode

I have no idea what Onboard IDE Operate mode is.
Update - see the next post.

Mboards newer than yours can have SATA controller settings where you can set it to RAID, or SATA (AHCI; JBOD) , or IDE compatible mode (or similar).
Update - I got that wrong - JBOD is a RAID mode.
When set to an IDE compatible mode, you don't need to load SATA drive controller drivers for SATA drives - they are recognized by Windows as IDE compatible drives, but are limited to max 133mb/sec burst speeds, rather than 150mb/sec (SATA drives; this mboard's SATA controllers) or 300mb/sec (newer mboard's SATA controllers; SATA II drives) drive burst speeds.

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November 1, 2010 at 13:47:52
Further info and corrections.

ATAPI = a standard a drive controller must adhere to (meet) in order to support recognizing ATAPI devices - optical drives - CD and DVD drives, and possibly other devices such as Tape backup drives which are obsolete these days.

The Via and the Promise SATA controller components on this moboard DO NOT support recognizing ATAPI drives - CD or DVD - drives.

The Via VT8237 chipset
- supports 2 channels (Pri and Sec) IDE (up to 4 drives) and they support ATAPI devices, and UDMA 66/100/133 (and probably UDMA 33 and Pio) modes.
There is no RAID support for the IDE component.
No drivers needed for the IDE component other than what's in the Via Hyperion (4 in 1) main chipset drivers. (The IDE controllers will work without those drivers but drives may not be able to run at their max speeds without them, and in some cases, sometimes ATAPI devices won't be recognized on the Secondary channel if those drivers were not installed. XP may have all but the Via IDE drivers already built into it, but it doesn't hurt to install them all. )

The SATA controller component supports 2? (maybe 3; some mboards with VT8237 have 3 SATA headers) channels and RAID 0, RAID1, and JBOD modes, and the original SATA 150mb/sec data burst speed.
SATA II drives (all more recent SATA drives are SATA II; 300mb/sec data burst speed) may be recognized as SATA (150mb/sec) drives automatically, or if not you may need to install a jumper on the drive in order to limit it to 150mb/sec (the original SATA) specs - some SATA II drives have the pins for that - some don't. In any case, SATA II drives are limited to 150mb/sec burst speed with this VT8237 chipset.
JBOD mode is another type of RAID array - NOT = IDE compatible mode as I said above - so the VT8237 cannot be set to a (SATA ) IDE compatible mode of some sort like newer SATA controllers can. JBOD - Just a Bunch of Disks or Just a Bunch of Drives - a.k.a. a Spanned array - stores the same data on multiple drives by combining the drives into one logical drive.
You must install drivers for the SATA controller(s) component of the VT8237.
Windows recognizes SATA controllers as SCSI devices (when they're in a SATA mode of some sort) , because Microsoft chose to use legacy SCSI support to support them.

If you want to use the VIA SATA RAID utility, you press Tab while booting to access it.

You DO NOT have to set up a Via RAID array.

I have a slightly older mboard - Asus A7V600 - on one computer that has the VT8237 - I did NOT set up a RAID array when I had a SATA drive connected to it. I merely installed the VT8237 SATA drivers (I wasn't booting Windows from that drive, so I installed them on an existing Windows XP installation on an IDE drive).
It appeared it was running in a plain SATA mode just fine.

There's even less info in it's manual about it than there is in yours, although you access the Via SATA RAID utility the same way, and there are instructions for the utility in the manual like there are in yours. The settings in the bios related to it are different from yours, and apparently I can select JBOD (SPANNING) mode in the Via SATA RAID utility - you may not be able to.

The Promise 20378 RAID controller - two Serial ATA and one parallel connectors with RAID 0, RAID 1 and RAID 0+1 functions

"The Promise controller can be Enabled / Disabled in the bios settings.
It has it's own rom (bios) too.
When it's enabled, there is a setting for
Operating mode - RAID or Onboard IDE Operate mode"

This probably applies to the Promise controller, NOT the Via controller ...

"When it's enabled, a line probably pops up early while booting, asking if you want to set up RAID - if you don't press the specified key, the boot continues after about 5 seconds."

- it has RAID support for IDE and SATA drives/ connectors.
- combos of IDE and SATA drives can be in a RAID array.
- Onboard IDE Operate Mode is either a SATA IDE compatible mode, or it's a heading that can be set in a submenu to an IDE compatible mode.
- It's IDE component requires you install drivers for it.
- It's SATA component requires you install different (RAID / SATA) drivers for it.
- Probably, if you install both drivers, you can use the Promise SATA controller set to either RAID or Onboard IDE Operate (IDE compatible) mode.

You probably DO NOT have to set up a RAID array for this either if a SATA drive is connected to it.

If you DO want to use a RAID array, it usually must be set up BEFORE you install an operating system on the array, unless you're using RAID 1 (mirroring)

NOTE that when a SATA drive controller has RAID capability, if you are given the choice of RAID and non-RAID drivers for the same controller series, in all situations for me so far (JMB or Silicon Image or Via chipsets) , the RAID drivers must be used even if you don't intend to use RAID - the non-RAID drivers will not work with a RAID capable controller - the plain SATA mode support is there too.

I don't recall how a SATA hard drive shows up in the A7V600's bios - the power supply on that computer presently has no SATA power connector, and the two wiring adapters I have for that are presently being used by a friend's computer for a rigged up power supply until I can replace her power supply.
I'm guessing the drive's model shows up just like the IDE drives models do.

When you have more than one hard drive, there is always a way of specifying which one you boot from in the bios. ( The default one selected by the bios may not be the one you want to boot from. Some bioses default to booting from the first IDE drive detected; some default to booting from the first SATA drive detected.)

- a separate list of hard drives - the model you want to boot from must be first (at the top)
- you can select from more than one hard drive model in the boot order settings - the model you want to boot from must be selected
- possibly in the case of the Promise controller, if the drive model connected to it does not show up in the bios, if you want to boot from a drive connected to it, you must use SCSI in the boot order list rather than (a) hard drive - in that latter case I would think only one drive connected to it (or only one RAID drive array) can be booted from.

If you're installing an operating system, e.g. XP or 2000, on a SATA drive on this computer, on either controller, you must press F6 early in the loading of the files from the XP CD, and later provide the SATA controller drivers on a floppy in a regular floppy drive when prompted, and the XP CD must have at least SP1 updates included in it's contents, 2000 must have at least SP4 updates included, in order tio recognize SATA controllers.
XP (and 2000) at this early stage of loading files cannot recognize driver files on most USB floppy drive models, unless it's one that existed when XP first came out, or on any hard drive, or on any CD, or on any USB flash drive. XP (and 2000) probably cannot be installed from the Windows CD when it's in any USB CD or DVD drive.
If you can't connect a regular floppy drive (even most recent mboards still have a floppy data header), or if the CD does not have new enough SP updates included, you must make yourself a "slipstreamed" CD, preferably a CD-R for best compatibility, that has the SP updates and the SATA controller drivers integrated into it - instructions are plentiful on the web for how to do that - e.g. integrate SP3 updates into XP, SP4 (or later?) updates into 2000. Then you use the "slipstreamed" CD rather than the original one to install Windows.

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