Samsung v25 always Hibernating problem

November 8, 2010 at 21:41:13
Specs: Windows XP, 2,4Ghz/1G
Hello guys,

the lapto simply just goes to hibernation after logon. it does so for about 4-6 times before it stays 30min after logon and the hibernating by itself.

in order cases it will boot up to the windows xp desktop, then after some few minutes the screen will start having coloured vertical lines in red blue and then shutdown by itself this is irregular and apperas once in a while

My observation is that the fans are not working correctly. How do i fix this problem?:(


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#1
November 9, 2010 at 06:31:10
Classic symptoms of overheating. Try blasting compressed air into the cooling vents to clear out any dust. It could be that your fan is just clogged. If that doesn't do it, you'll have to open the case & investigate. The fan *may* have to be replaced.

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#2
November 9, 2010 at 07:54:13
thanks for replying, i hav clear airways and the fans a free, but the spinning is irregular. for example before when i press the power butting, the left fan from top spins for about 5secs and stops, the lefts fans stats spnning continuously and only stops when the laptop has been idle for a very long time. but thing ton't happen this way anymore. some times when i power the laptop, no fan spins at all till desktop and the the system shuts down.

if the fans spins the way it should the system might well remain ok, but it dosen't, some times the fan jers as if wanting to spin, but stops.

the fans are very free to spin, no clogged airways or the like.

any more suggestions


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#3
November 9, 2010 at 08:49:29
"the lapto simply just goes to hibernation after logon. it does so for about 4-6 times before it stays 30min after logon and the hibernating by itself."

Whether Hibernate or Standby mode work properly depends on whether XP has the proper info about how they are supported by your mboard. If you still have the original brand name software installation, or if that has been re-loaded by you doing a full proper Recovery procedure for the model, XP has that proper info.
If you have reloaded only Windows from scratch from a regular XP CD, or if you used only the XP re-installation CD that came with the computer to install Windows, XP may not have the proper info about how they are supported by your mboard, and you need to install the main chipset drivers for the mboard to supply Windows with that info.

Whether your laptop goes into Standby or Hibernate mode depends on settings in Control Panel - Power Options. Standby settings are on the Power Schemes window of that - Hibernate mode is NOT enabled unless you enable that yourself, on the Hibernate window of that - Standby mode is the default .
Windows goes into Standby or Hibernate mode after a set period of time shown there on the Power Schemes window, going by it not detecting user activity for that amount of time - e.g. if you are reading something that doesn't count as user activity.

If XP has the proper info about how your mboard supports Hibernate and Standby modes, getting out of Standby mode merely requires you move the mouse or press a key - getting out of Hibernate mode may require you do something else, depending on your model, such as briefly press the power button.

The built in display having no video, the led for it being in the state it is when there is no video signal, after you first log onto Windows, is NOT normal behavior. Standby and Hibernate modes do NOT do that, unless the user inactivity time has been exceeded.
Common causes....

If you ALWAYS have video while booting before Windows starts to load, and it's only after Windows starts to load that you get no video, it's something about Windows that isn't right.
- most likely - you don't have the main chipset drivers installed. Install them.

If you sometimes get no video while booting BEFORE Windows is supposed to load as well, then the following probably applies.

- your built in display's backlight, or less likely the voltage inverter that supplies it with high voltage, is in the process of failing. That's common and especially likely after the laptop has been used a lot. The symptoms tend to be intermittent before you get no video at all, all the time. OR - the wiring between the video adapter and built in the display has a problem. Usually there's nothing wrong with your video adapter.

Laptop no video (or video problems), and battery, AC adapter, power jack T shooting.

See response 1:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...

DO NOT plug in or unplug a monitor's video cable into / from a video port while the computer is running. Doing so can damage the monitor's circuits and/or the video adapter's circuits.

Some laptops will display on an external monitor without you having to do anything.

If you get no video on an external monitor, some laptops have a key combo that you must press to toggle the display to external video only / sometimes both / built in display video only - see the Owner's or User's manual for the model.
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"in order cases it will boot up to the windows xp desktop, then after some few minutes the screen will start having coloured vertical lines in red blue and then shutdown by itself this is irregular and apperas once in a while"

The colored lines may indicate your video chipset and/or your cpu is overheating, if that does NOT occur until a while after your computer is booted after having had a chance to cool to room temp.
If you get the lines despite the computer being cool, such as right away or very soon after you boot a cooled off computer, the LCD display or the video adapter is damaged.

"My observation is that the fans are not working correctly. How do i fix this problem?"

With some laptops, the fan spins while booting, then it shuts off and doesn't come on after that until some temp has been exceeded inside the case - it goes on and off repeatedly, most of the time it's off.
With other laptops, the fan does not spin while booting, but it does come on intermittently as you use the computer.
You may or may not have noticed what it's normal behavior is - it often doesn't make much noise when it does spin.
If you're sure your fan never comes on now when you use the computer for at least a half hour, yes, there's something wrong with it, and most likely you need to replace it. The fan going on / off has nothing to do with the software on the hard drive, and usually there is no setting for it in the bios either.

If your cpu (processor) overheats beyond a certain temp, the computer's bios will shut down the system, and the computer will NOT start up again after that until the cpu has cooled below some temp.



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#4
November 9, 2010 at 11:14:25
I installed xp from a regular cd, so i will install the chipset driver and let you know what happens next.

Do you think doing a bios upgrade can solve the problem?


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#5
November 9, 2010 at 11:30:01
Flashing the bios IS NOT a fix-all !
It's the riskiest thing you can do with a computer !
You are taking a big risk when you flash your bios - if the flash fails, and/or if the flash chip physically fails while flashing (this is COMMON - these cheap flash chips can only be flashed an unpredictable small number of times), you will have a mboard that will not boot.

If the flash fails, but the flash chip is physically okay, you can follow a specific Recovery procedure, according to the brand of your bios.

If the flash chip physically fails you will have a dead mboard until that is fixed, and you may need to obtain a new flash chip, already flashed.

Most mboards these days have a soldered in bios flash chip. It takes an expert with the right tools to replace it and usually you have to ship it somewhere and have it shipped back - that can cost as much as a new mboard, and more than a good used one.

If the flash chip is in a socket, you can buy a replacement chip, already flashed, from vendors on the web, for less money.

In both cases, you will have a useless mboard until the flash chip has been replaced.


If the computer worked fine previously with the same bios version, and if you have not changed the cpu (processor) to one that is not recognized by the present bios version, YOUR PROBLEMS CANNOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BIOS VERSION !


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#6
November 13, 2010 at 04:16:08
i reformatted my system and it solve the hibernating problem. but when i install the chipset and drivers it starts going to standby.!!!!!!

ls help


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#7
November 13, 2010 at 06:56:18
It was completely un-necessary to reformat your system to cure just your Standby problem.

It's normal for the computer to go into Standby mode after the user inactivity time in Power Options.
If you don't want your computer to do that, then change settings there.
If you can't get the Standby mode to work properly, then set it to Never come on there.
.......

You may be mistaking a problem with your display for a problem with Standby.
It's very common for you to have problems with the built in display after the computer has been used a lot, either because the backlight or voltage inverter for the backlight is failing, or you have a problem with the wiring between the video adapter in the base of the computer and the display.
If you don't have the problem when you connect an external display, that's what your real problem is.


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#8
November 13, 2010 at 09:11:44
i install the drivers on Samsung site the video is ok but the system is alway going to standby when i boot. but if i uninstall the drivers the system works well but with slow graphics display

by slow graphics i mean that when you move a window it takes about five seconds for the window to get to its destination. anything graphics oriented take occurs slowly or lags. this is not memory problem because i have 512MB RAM

when i install the drivers in Samsung site the display graphics works fine but about 11 secs or 22 secs into desktop the system immediately goes to standby as if i press the standby button

what do i do now?



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#9
November 13, 2010 at 11:09:05
For the time being, disable Standby - set it to Never come on - in the Power Options in Control Panel.
If you don't have enough time to do that when you boot normally, then boot into Enable VGA mode while booting (or Safe mode but you may not be able to change the setting in Safe mode).

(Remove any bootable CDs or DVDs from drives.
Press F8 repeatedly while booting, don't hold down the key, starting right after the led on the built in display turns the color it is when it has video and stops blinking.
When the boot choices menu appears, choose
Enable VGA mode
That boots the computer normally, except the specific video drivers for the video adapter are not loaded.
The video is in the same mode when you choose Safe mode, however, Safe mode does not load a lot of things, and you sometimes cannot do things in Safe made that you can do in Enable VGA mode or when you boot normally. )
......

By the way, you can set your hard drive and your monitor display to switch off after a period of inactivity in the Power Options settings - you don't necessarily need to use Standby. If they switch off, the display will come back on when you press a key or move your mouse, and the hard drive will spin up when you do something that requires that it be accessed. You can even have a display in Windows when the hard drive is not spinning - the computer running entirely from the data in the ram.
.......

Your problem may be directly related to you NOT installing the video adapter's "drivers" properly.

Sound and video "drivers" always have associated files that must be installed properly along with the actual drivers. If you install only the actual drivers, it's likely the device will NOT work properly.

Unless the instructions for installing a device tell you otherwise....
(this ALWAYS applies to video and sound adapters )

You DO NOT install drivers for a device while booting into Windows, if the software for the device has not been installed yet - when Windows detects a generic device or New Hardware while booting, you allow it to search for drivers, it doesn't find any, and it wants you to show it the location of the drivers - CANCEL that, continue on to the desktop, and install the software for the device using the proper installation from a CD or the proper installation file that you downloaded from the web.
The same applies no matter when Windows finds New Hardware !

If you DID install drivers that way,

(The following also applies if you want to un-install previous software, or re-install the same software)

- for video "drivers"....

- go to Control Panel - Classic View - Add/Remove Programs and Un-install the software you installed, reboot, DO NOT install drivers while booting, let the desktop screen fully load.

Install the video software properly by running the proper download you got from the web, or if you have the CD that came with the video card that's in a slot, or if you have the CD that came with the brand name computer that has the Drivers on it, run the video software installation from the installation program on that.

for sound adapter drivers...

- go to Control Panel - Classic View - Add/Remove Programs and Un-install the software you installed, reboot, DO NOT install drivers while booting.

- go to Device Manager.
(e.g. RIGHT click on My Computer - Properties - Hardware - Device Manager)
If the sound adapter is still listed, RIGHT click on it and Un-install it.
If that was there, and you un-installed it, Reboot at least once.
DO NOT install drivers while booting.

Install the sound software properly by running the proper download you got from the web, or if you have the CD that came with the sound card, or if you have the CD that came with the brand name computer that has the Drivers on it, run the sound software installation from the installation program on that.


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#10
November 14, 2010 at 15:58:53
will changing the processor solve my problem? i suspect the processor is making the system very slow even with 512mb ram

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#11
November 14, 2010 at 23:03:10
"will changing the processor solve my problem?"

The "Standby" problem ? NO.
Most likely you didn't install the video drivers properly, or you may have a battery problem (see below) . (If you disable Standby and you still get the problem, then it's probably a power related problem.)

I didn't realize your Samsung V25 was relatively old.

How old is your main battery?
A main battery more than about 2 years old is likely to cause you problems, including you could have the display black out on you
See this, regarding the battery and related:
Laptop no video (or video problems), and battery, AC adapter, power jack T shooting.
See response 1:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...

Specs
http://www.samsungpc.com/gb/support...

The specs are dated 04/2003 , so your model was first available as early as that or earlier.

XP Home or Pro

P4 2.4 - 2.8 ghz or Celeron 2.0 - 2.2ghz

2 ram slots PC133 Sodimms max 1 gb total

FSB 533mhz

Intel 845 main chipset - 845GV video

Sound 16 bit SB

Floppy drive optional - USB FDD

UDMA 100 max
.......

You probably have one of the original P4's, or an old Celeron that works in the same cpu socket , the ones with the least performance.

You have relatively SLOW ram, the original SDRam, PC133.
You have two ram slots; most likely you have a 256mb module in each one.
Max is 512mb in each.

"....system very slow..."
You have an Intel 845 main chipset.
The older 8xx main chipsets require that you install the Intel Application Accelerator in order for hard and optical drives to be able to run at their maximum speeds.
You must go to the Intel web site and get the newest version of the Intel Application Accelerator, at the same place you got the main chipset drivers, download it, install it.
Once that has been installed and you have re-booted, you will notice that your computer is booting faster, the hard drive is running things in Windows faster.
There will then be an entry in your All Programs list - Intel Application Accelerator - if you run that it shows you the UDMA mode your hard and optical drive are in. If your hard drive supports UDMA100, the mode for that will be UDMA100 or UDMA 5.


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#12
November 21, 2010 at 01:32:02
now i did a fresh format/installation on the laptop (the third or fourth time now),
installed the chipset, from samsung website here
restart,
install the video,
restart,
and the system wont show the welcome screen.

after the first windows boot screen with blue scroll bar, it is suppose to show the account screen or the welcome screen , but it shows nothing after that, instead the power light show that it is in stand by (green blinking).

if i restart the same thing happens, no welcome screen.

if i start in safe mode, it boots to desktop and works

if i uninstall the video driver and start normally, it works, boot to desktop, except that the video lags, or everything is very slow.

what do i do now. am pretty tired and think i should just throw this laptop away


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#13
November 21, 2010 at 10:47:40
It should have dawned on you after the first time you re-installed Windows from scratch that doing that again wasn't going to solve you problem.

There are a lot of other "drivers" that must be installed for your system. Did you install all of them ?

See the part in response 9 starting at ....

"Your problem may be directly related to you NOT installing the video adapter's "drivers" properly.
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If that doesn't help, then you may need to load specific monitor drivers.
In most if not all cases, brand name computers do not have specific monitor drivers available in their downloads on their web site - they're included with the specific video drivers. If those monitor drivers have been loaded, they'll be there when you choose to change monitor drivers, when you remove the checkmark beside Show only compatible hardware or similar, probably under Samsung.
If those are not there, you could use Plug and Play Monitor drivers but your display may not fill the screen by default, or it may be stretched. looking.

See response #9 here:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...

starting at....
"Boot into Enable VGA mode."


(as in...

Remove any bootable CDs or DVDs you have in drives.
Press F8 repeatedly while booting, don't hold down the key, starting very early in the boot.
When the Windows boot choices menu appears, choose Enable VGA mode. )


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#14
November 23, 2010 at 10:05:41
i tried booting in vga mode, but it still goes to standby

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#15
November 23, 2010 at 10:45:15
IT'S NOT GOING INTO STANDBY !
Standby DOES NOT come on until AFTER a period of user inactivity, unless, possibly, you haven't installed the main chipset drivers !

If you have done everything correctly that I have mentioned, then the only things most likely are either your built in display is dying, or the video adapter built into the mboard is damaged !
I have only encountered a few cases of it - one on a friend's computer, and few for computers I've helped answer questions about here - but sometimes the video adapter is damaged such that it works fine when you are NOT using the specific drivers for it, but does NOT work properly when you DO use the specific drivers for it.

See the part in response 3 starting at:

"Laptop no video (or video problems), and battery, AC adapter, power jack T shooting."

Try your laptop with an external monitor.

If you get the same symptoms with an external monitor, the video adapter built into your mboard is damaged !
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There is a small possibility that you have this problem, but you must open up your laptop to find it, and if you do have it, you will need to replace the mboard.

Some mboards develop this problem - electrolytic capacitors were installed on them that were not properly made, and they fail eventually - the mboard manufacturer didn't know they were improperly made at the time the mboard was made.

Open up your case and examine the mboard to see if you have bad capacitors, and/or other findable signs of mboard damage .

This was the original bad capacitor problem - has some example pictures.
History of why the exploding capacitors and which mboard makers were affected:
http://members.datafast.net.au/~dft...

What to look for, mboard symptoms, example pictures:
http://www.badcaps.net/pages.php?vid=5
Home page that site
- what the problem is caused by
- he says there are STILL bad capacitors on more recent mboards.
http://www.badcaps.net/

Pictures of blown capacitors, other components, power supplies, Athlon cpu's, etc.:
http://www.halfdone.com/Personal/Jo...



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#16
December 2, 2010 at 07:08:28
thanks for you help all the way, am very grateful,

i have uninstalled the vga, and installed one closely related intel vga driver that ships with xp, and the standby problem or hibernating problem has stopped.

Now the processor is running at about 200MHz instead of 2.0GHz, what do i do? I guess this is why the vedio is very slow or jerks initially

please help


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#17
December 2, 2010 at 11:23:55
You don't install VGA drivers for the video adapter - you install specific "drivers" for the video adapter that yield you better than plain VGA video. Basic plain VGA drivers are built into all Windows versions Win 95 and up.
It sounds like you installed the wrong specific video "drivers", or you installed the right drivers the wrong way previously. Specific video "drivers" installations have more than just the actual video drivers. See below for more info.
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"Now the processor is running at about 200MHz instead of 2.0GHz........"

Go into your bios Setup and load bios defaults.

See response 11 starting at
""....system very slow...""

You must install the Intel main chipset drivers AND the Intel Application Accelerator !
.......

Sound and video "drivers" always have associated files that must be installed properly along with the actual drivers. If you install only the actual drivers, it's likely the device will NOT work properly.

Unless the instructions for installing a device tell you otherwise....
(this ALWAYS applies to video and sound adapters )

You DO NOT install drivers for a device while booting into Windows, if the software for the device has not been installed yet - when Windows detects a generic device or New Hardware while booting, you allow it to search for drivers, it doesn't find any, and it wants you to show it the location of the drivers - CANCEL that, continue on to the desktop, and install the software for the device using the proper installation from a CD or the proper installation file that you downloaded from the web.
The same applies no matter when Windows finds New Hardware !

If you DID install drivers that way,

(The following also applies if you want to un-install previous software, or re-install the same software)

- for video "drivers"....

- go to Control Panel - Classic View - Add/Remove Programs and Un-install the software you installed, reboot, DO NOT install drivers while booting, let the desktop screen fully load.

Install the video software properly by running the proper download you got from the web, or if you have the CD that came with the video card that's in a slot, or if you have the CD that came with the brand name computer that has the Drivers on it, run the video software installation from the installation program on that.

for sound adapter drivers...

- go to Control Panel - Classic View - Add/Remove Programs and Un-install the software you installed, reboot, DO NOT install drivers while booting.

- go to Device Manager.
(e.g. RIGHT click on My Computer - Properties - Hardware - Device Manager)
If the sound adapter is still listed, RIGHT click on it and Un-install it.
If that was there, and you un-installed it, Reboot at least once.
DO NOT install drivers while booting.

Install the sound software properly by running the proper download you got from the web, or if you have the CD that came with the sound card, or if you have the CD that came with the brand name computer that has the Drivers on it, run the sound software installation from the installation program on that.


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