S video operational? ...Connect to TV?

Toshiba Satellite m45-s165 notebook
July 13, 2010 at 12:16:45
Specs: Windows XP
How do i determine if my Toshiba M45 S video port is operational? ..Will I be able to connect to TV S video and see & hear online broadcasts? Do I have to purchase a separate card ?
Tried & failed already... what else could be the problem?

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#1
July 13, 2010 at 12:23:56
Did you go to your tv menu and designate where the input signal should come from? It usually has settings like video1 or video2 etc.

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#2
July 13, 2010 at 12:33:08
yes but Im confused because they they are listed as "use w/ VCR/DVD 1or2"

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#3
July 13, 2010 at 13:58:29
The "SVideo" port on the laptop is probably "live" all the time the Windows is running (if it's been enabled - see below) , although when you are booting, you may get no video from it until Windows has fully loaded.
The "Svideo" port on a laptop, or on a video card or built in video adapter on a desktop computer, is often not actually a legacy SVideo port - it often has more than 4 pin holes - but it's compatible with a legacy SVideo cable, 4 pins on both ends. There would need to be an SVideo port on the TV to connect it to.
Or, you can use a standard SVideo (male, 4 pins) to RCA jack inline adapter (female) in the "SVideo" port on the laptop (they often come with one), and connect a cable with RCA plugs (male) on both ends to the legacy composite video (one connection) RCA jack (female, yellow) on the TV.

"yes but Im confused because they they are listed as "use w/ VCR/DVD 1or2" "

The yellow legacy composite video RCA jack is usually in a set of three beside a red and white one for audio. Those are also used for a DVD player non HDTV input (HDTV output/input requires 3 RCA video connections - green , blue, red beside each other) , or a non HDTV input from a VCR (most do not have HDTV output).

If you want the audio from the laptop to be on the TV, you need either

- an adapter that plugs into the head phones jack on the laptop - 1/8" stereo plug (male) to two RCA jacks (female) - the laptop may have come with one - and two cables with RCA plugs on both ends,

- or the equivalent - a cable with a 1/8" stereo plug (male) to two cords with a RCA plug (male) on each one -

and connect to the red and white RCA jacks (female) on the TV for audio beside the yellow jack (female) you have the laptop's video plugged into , or beside the SVideo jack you have the laptop's video plugged into .

You can use one type or another of those connections, not both, at any one time. SVideo gives you a tiny bit better result.
Your TV must have either have a SVideo jack (female) , or a legacy composite video (one connection, yellow) RCA jack, or it may have both.
(If your TV is recent, it may have neither of those.)

In any case, if your TV is new enough that it has a has a VGA port - 15 pin holes, flattened D shaped, the same as the one on the back of your laptop, then you can get MUCH better video on the TV from the laptop by using a VGA cable (male both ends) between the laptop and TV VGA ports.
For VGA output from the laptop you may have two choices that enable it, if it isn't already "live" - a key combo you can press on the laptop to toggle built in video / video from the VGA port only / or both - (see the Owner's or User's manual for your laptop model), and/or the setting in Window's Display Properties (see next).

Even if you have the cable to the TV hooked up properly, XP and the specific video drivers often does/do NOT enable the second display automatically (they MAY enable it when you use a VGA cable).
RIGHT click on a blank part of your default desktop screen, choose Properties (goes to Display Properties) - Settings.
Hold your cursor over the displays there - for one of them it will show you it's disabled or similar. RIGHT click on that display, and enable it or similar. If your cable is connected correctly, and if you have the TV remote or the buttons on the front of the TV set to the right input, other than the TV video, you will have video on the TV.

Windows will retain enabling the second display as long as the cable that connects the laptop to the TV is connected while Windows is running, but if you unplug that and load Windows with it unplugged at least once, you'll have to enable the display again the next time you connect it.

Don't plug in or unplug the cable between the laptop and the TV while Windows is running - if you do that, something may be damaged, and in any case it may not work until Windows has been restarted anyway.


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#4
July 13, 2010 at 15:07:21
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!! Svideo connection finally works.
New Problem: I've got a blank desktop on the tv.(ie program icons on computer not visible on screen)
How do I get laptop to display (open) video/ programs onto the TV screen?

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#5
July 13, 2010 at 16:08:35
The legacy TV out display you get with a SVideo or legacy composite video RCA connection is relatively crappy looking in comparison to the display on your computer screen, because it is modified to conform to relatively ancient TV video standards that can be used on any TV that has the SVideo or yellow composite video RCA jack. e.g. The vertical refresh rate is unchangeable - it's either 60 Hz or 50 Hz - and the pixels are relatively coarse. Windows text looks crappy, especially when it's small.

"...if your TV is new enough that it has a has a VGA port - 15 pin holes, flattened D shaped, the same as the one on the back of your laptop, then you can get MUCH better video on the TV from the laptop by using a VGA cable (male both ends) between the laptop and TV VGA ports."

The display will look just as good, or nearly as good, as that on the laptop's built in screen, because when the TV has a VGA port, the TV has the smaller pixels necessary to display like a computer monitor built in.
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What the hxxx are you seeing for the display of the laptop on the TV screen then?
Does the desktop screen look normal except it has no icons ?
If so, I've never heard of that.

Or is there nothing on the screen but it's lit up?

(If so, the laptop's display on the TV can probably only be certain standard 4:3 ratio resolutions. E.g. 640 X 480, 800 X 600, 1024 X 768, 1280 X 960. Your laptop apparently has a wide screen display - probably 16:9 or 16:10 display ratio - you can probably set that resolution on the display on the TV in - RIGHT click on a blank part of the default main desktop screen - Properties - Settings - or Advanced in the control panel or Catayst settings - see below. )


Or what ?

The desktop screen for the primary video in Windows is set to show the desktop by default. If the desktop screen looks normal except it has no icons, you may need to find a video setting that enables showing the desktop on the secondary display.

If the screen you see does not look like a normal desktop screen at all,
or in any case,
you can make the displays the same by finding a video setting that makes them the same - e.g. clone or similar - with the exception that a small number of programs will only display on the Windows Primary video display that's in Display Properties . e.g. Power DVD will NOT display DVD video on the Secondary display - the frame the video is supposed to be in is there when it's not in full screen mode, but there is NO video displayed in it.

"Product: Toshiba Satellite m45-s165"

Apparently it may have come with 512mb of ram - is that what yours has ? - the amount shared with the video may be subtracted from that - if so, you could benefit from more ram.

Apparently it's got ATI Mobility Radeon XPRESS 200M onboard video, and first came out in 2005.

Does it still have it's original main battery ? If so, you should replace it - it must be in poor shape by now.

If it still has it's original video drivers and associated software, it either has a control panel for special video settings, or it has a Catalyst version which does the same thing.

When both displays are working....

f it has a control panel.....

RIGHT click on a blank part of the default main desktop screen
Properties - Settings - Advanced - Overlay - Clone mode options button - I think Theater mode is the mode that yields you identical display layouts.
Click on OK, . and whatever at the bottom of each window until you're back at the desktop screen.

If it has a Catalyst version, there will be a tab there for Catalyst - you can either click on that, or click on Catalyst in the All Programs listings (that may be under an ATI .....folder ) and you'll need to find a similar setting.

There is Help you can look at on some of the control panel screens with the red in their tabs, or in the Catalyst screens, if you need to.
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#6
July 15, 2010 at 11:33:55
Thanks again for all your assistance. I'm still workin' on it.

Re Q1-" What the hxxx are you seeing for the display of the laptop on the TV screen then?
Does the desktop screen look normal except it has no icons ?
If so, I've never heard of that."
A: Yep- I receive the blank desktop background on TV with none of the 20+ icons that can be simultaneously viewed on my laptop.

Q2- ""Product: Toshiba Satellite m45-s165"
Apparently it may have come with 512mb of ram - is that what yours has ?"

A: all original equipment- I only use it for internet and light processing- Will purchase RAM today.

Thanks for all suggestions. I'll try again after RAM is installed.


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#7
July 15, 2010 at 13:27:54
Don't randomly buy ram.
See response 5 in this for some info about ram compatibilty, and some places where you can find out what will work in your mboard for sure:
http://www.computing.net/hardware/w...
Correction to that:
Mushkin www.mushkin.com


Most laptops have 2 ram slots.
You may have two 256mb modules, that's the most common original situation, or one 512mb module, not so common.
Whether you leave one 256mb module in and install 512mb or more in the other slot, or leave the 512mb module in and install a 256mb or larger module in the other slot, or remove both modules and install one 1gb or two totaling more than 512mb, you will notice an improvement in performance improvement with at least 768mb of ram, but the effect of more ram isn't as noticeable (diminishing returns) if you , say, have more than 1gb of ram, total. A review I read rated your model as mediocre, so more ram than that probably wouldn't help much anyway.

For a laptop, or netbook, you must remove both its main battery and AC adapter connection before you remove and install the ram.

For a brand name computer, see the Owner's or User's manual if you need to - how to remove or replace the ram is usually in that - it may already be in your installed programs. If you can't get into Windows, it may be on a disk that came with the computer, or you can go online and look at it or download it - it's in the downloads for your specific model.
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32 bit Windows operating system cannot recognize more than 4gb of ram, and if you install 4gb Windows can't use all of it - it can only use anywhere from a little under 3gb to a little over 3gb of it, depending on the system . Sometimes Windows actually performs better when you install 3gb rather than 4gb .


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