|"I got it running." Etc. |
That's good to hear.
I had already downloaded the manual for your model, so now that I saw the additional responses I looked at it.
It sounds like all you did was clear the Cmos.
".....restore the board to the way it was when it left the factory."
That's only the case if the bios version is the same as it was when it left the factory. If the bios version has ever been updated, it's that bios version you're clearing the Cmos contents of.
Along the lines of what OtheHill said in response 20, if you had actually loaded bios defaults AND Saved bios settings, it would have accomplished the same thing, without setting the time and date to defaults.
Removing the Cmos battery for a short time then installing it again does the same thing as clearing the Cmos - doing that sets the time and and date to defaults too
By the way, when you DO flash the bios, you should always load bios defaults in the bios Setup, Save settings, because you can't be sure that flashing the bios cleared the previous Cmos contents otherwise.
I have no idea how your mboard's bios got into the state it was in, but it's extremely likely you MUST have done something to cause that.
I've been composing an answer post to your response 15 but wasn't quite finished yet.
As a last resort, I also looked up the bios updates for your model and found the Abit instructions for how to flash link, and added some additional info.
Here's what would probably have been response 16 if I was a much faster typist and hadn't stopped for supper:
""text"" = was in a post previous to the last one (previous to response 15).
"text" = was in the last post (response 15).
Tubesandwires February 10, 2012 at 10:38:34 Pacific"
""We have no idea what the expertise of a person who posts about a problem is, and what they tried and didn't try, unless they tell us, thanks for the details you initially and eventually provided about that, but even when the person has expertise and has done or checked the right things it often helps for them to be reminded about possible causes in case they missed something.""
"That is understandable and I do relate to your remarks. However, my very first post was in detail.. I received an email which stated my initial posting had been moved. However, returning to this forum via the email link, posted below, is what I saw."
""White box PC with ide hdd 2gb ddr ram. Have checked each part in operating PC . The cmos menu comes on and when it reads press any key to boot from cd drive nothing!""
"That was the introductory paragraph to a very detailed post. I went on to describe the type of part, its maker, version, part number and how I had tested that particular component(bench, bench rig or swap). Additionally, I posted the version of the Phoenix Utility, how I went through each section and saved the settings(fs10) and reported nothing had changed. Therefore, if my tone seemed a bit strained it was/is. I have have had several suggestions to try a different keyboard platform; ie.PS/2 vs, usb and received a leture concerning their inability to be "hot swapped". As a thinking person a redundant questions seem to be a waste of every person on this forums time. HOW COULD I'VE GOT INTO THE PHOENIX
UTILITY, CHANGED AND SAVED THE SETTINGS MINUS A SYSTEM COMPATIBLE KEYBOARD?
Response 21 note - Phoenix utiliy ?
Your mboard has an Award bios version !
However, Phoenix merged with Award before this mboard was made.
"Then I received this reply."
""What happens that things aren't working as expected. You have provided no details.""
"?What does the above first sentence mean?"
Replacing "What" with "That" and "that" with "when" would made sense.
OtheHill answers a lot more than I do. We sometimes miss our typos.
""It also helps if the person comments about EVERYTHING we said, and/or answers ALL of our questions, in detail - they often don't do enough of that""
"?Again, who are they?"
The person who started the topic, of course.
""You haven't said whether there has been any change regarding whether you can boot the computer from the burned Windows disk that works fine with other computers,...""
"And again, above question had been asked and answered"
""Yes, the same disk booted up installed Windows XP Pro. Did the same thing with another optical drive in the test rig. Same result, booted up formatted the drive(because I was so happy something worked) and installed XP Pro again."."
So - your answer is the situation hasn't changed. Fine.
"More redundantcy below."
""Media problem ?
All optical drives are somewhat (e,g. LG), or some are very (e.g. Pioneer) , particular about which media - types and brands of disks - work with them properly, particularly burnable disks.
A disk burned in one brand's model may not be recognized properly in another brand's model.If the latter situation applies, the Philips drive may not be 100% compatible with the brand and type of the burned Windows disk. If you copy the disk to another brand's disk that IS listed as compatible in the media list for the Philips drive on another computer, it will probably work fine.""
"Again, above question previously asked and answered"
""I've tried two different optical drives and two factory repair discs.""
OK, I missed that ".....two factory repair discs." I'm assuming the disks were bootable on other computers, and that they didn't boot either on this computer - you didn't say that specifically.
"OK despite the madding amount of redundant questions I've gleaned that the motherboard and firmware are not the problem. I will try a totally different approach to loading and booting the machine. The machine was built at the time when floppy drives were just going away. I'm going to try a factory floppy disc in a floppy drive and report back with success or failure. Thanks to one and all. If anyone is planning a trip to Maryland's beautiful Ocean side beaches, let me know well in advance. And I'll be sure to leave town!!
Thanks again for your time and patience"
As time went by, fewer new computers came with a floppy drive installed, some cases didn't even have an external slot space to install one in, but almost all mboards except very recent mboards still have the floppy data header on the mboard, and if it does have that header a conventional floppy drive can be connected to it.
If it doesn't have that header , a USB floppy drive can be connected - in most cases it is recognized fine by the bios, at least for newer bioses.
I still frequently use programs on floppy disks on the computers I work on.
If your only problem is the mboard cannot recognize the burned Windows disk as bootable, for whatever reason, you can probably still solve your installing or repairing Windows problem, but you still won't be able to boot from any optical disk that's bootable, unless you solve whatever is causing that problem.
Response 21 note
(If you HAD checked and done everything right, the only thing left is the mboard is damaged !)
Detecting bootability of a bootable optical disk is a function of both the optical drive and the bios - both must be working properly.
I assume you've tried loading bios defaults, SAVING them.
Don't press the key if you see the line "Press any key to boot from CD." or similar while booting
There are downloads on the Microsoft web site (you must chose the right one for your Windows version, Home or Pro, and for whether it does or does not have a Service Pack integrated into the CD), that you can make a set of 6 floppy disks for XP's Setup. They load the same initial files that the CD loads when the computer has no problem booting from the CD. If you have your Windows CD in a drive when they have finished loading, you can then continue on and run Setup from the CD, no problem.
You are probably getting the rebooting loop because Windows was installed on the hard drive when the hard drive was on a different mboard.
- If you run the Repair installation of Windows procedure (see above) rather than doing a regular Setup and installing Windows from scratch, Setup will not delete any of the personal data you added after Setup was finished when the hard drive was on the other computer, on the partition Windows was installed on. It takes a little less time than a regular Setup does because it already has it's Windows settings and all the device drivers.
- If all you did was install Windows on the other computer, or that and not much more such as installing mboard and device drivers, then it wouldn't matter much if you ran Setup from scratch and deleted and remade the existing partition Windows will be installed on.
I DO NOT recommend your flash the bios !
How to update the bios ? Click here (goes to)
Before you read it...
Go into the bios and look for a setting that does not allow / allows the bios to be altered - if does not allow it , change that to allowing it, Save bios settings.
Step 2 - the newest bios version is 18 (Sg8018)
This link downloads it:
If it doesn't pop up, look for an orange tab in your bottom taskbar on the main desktop screen "0% of sg8018.zip..."
Step 4 - your bios update download is type 4b
Step 5 - Floppy disks that have developed undetected bad sectors over time are common. Check the floppy disk
- do a FULL format of it, without copying system files to it.(A FULL format checks for previously undetected bad sectors and is very good at it; a Quick format does NOT.)
- in ME and back to Win 95, a summary is displayed - there should be no bad sectors.
- in 2000 or XP, when the format has finished, RIGHT click on A drive, select Properties - there should be no bad sectors.
There should be 1,457,664 bytes capacity and 1,457,664 bytes available for a 1.44 mb floppy.
If it has any bad sectors don't risk using it.
If it doesn't have any, use Format to copy system files to it.
Step 7 - just type runme to keep it simple.
If you use the other method make sure you haven't made any typos.
Step 8 - instead of doing that you can load bios defaults in the bios - any bios defaults - Save bios settings. .
Manual - this link downloads it :
If it doesn't pop up, look for an orange tab in your bottom taskbar on the main desktop screen "0% of sg-80dc.zip..."
Abit Motherboard Review (of your model):