raid controller wont start

Wd Western digital wd elements se (1tb)
August 1, 2011 at 06:48:06
Specs: Windows XP, celeron 3.15ghz(slightly overclocked) / 1 gig
raid controller can not start, yellow exclamation in device window. created a merged iso boot disk that had the raid drivers for my via pm800 -8237r motherboard, win xp sp2. install went great, created boot disk like program said i needed to( no floppy drive on my tower) but my raid controllers still wont start and i cant do anything, much less try to set up a raid array in that menu. please help been working on this for about 2 weeks!!!

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#1
August 1, 2011 at 07:10:08
"via pm800 -8237r "

That's the main chipset and it's south bridge chip.

VIA PM800 - Delivering the Hi-Def™ Visual Experience to the Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Platform
http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/c...

Excerpt
In combination with the VIA VT8237R Plus South Bridge, the PM800 offers a comprehensive range of integrated storage, multimedia and connectivity options, including native Serial ATA and V-RAID, with support for RAID 0, RAID 1 and RAID 0+1** arrays....

What is the make and model of the mboard ??
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"Tags:Wd Western digital wd elements se (1tb)" "sata"

Usually you cannot have a RAID array unless you have at least two hard drives connected to the SAME drive controller that supports RAID.
Preferably the drives should be the same size (capacity).
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(If the drives were already in a RAID array previously, and still are, that's a different situation.)

You set up the RAID array while booting the computer, when you see a line displayed for you to do that by pressing a key.
Setting up the RAID array is a function of the separate bios of the drive controller that supports RAID use built into the main chipset , or if the mboard has two drive controllers and one or both support RAID use, a function of the separate bios of one of the drive controllers that supports RAID use you have the drives connected to, or if you're using a drive controller card that supports RAID use in a mboard slot, a function of that drive controller's separate bios that you have the drives connected to.

"....my raid controllers still wont start and i cant do anything, much less try to set up a raid array in that menu."

You DO NOT set up the RAID array in the operating system !
You must set up the RAID array BEFORE you install the operating system.
(If the drives were already in a RAID array previously, and still are, and had an operating system installed on them, that's a different situation.)
Then the operating system installation will deal with the situation accordingly.
E.g. depending on the type of RAID array, if you have two drives in array, the operating system may see the two drives as one (logical) drive
(All drive letters in the operating system are for logical drives - logical is usually omitted when referring to them.)

You must use the drivers for the drive controller you have the drives in the array connected to. If you have more than one drive controller that supports RAID
- the drivers must be for the correct drive controller.
- you must install drivers for each of the drive controllers that support RAID.

Whether or not you do have a RAID array....

If the drive controller supports RAID, you usually if not always MUST use the drivers for the drive controller with RAID support, even if you do not want to use the RAID function - the similar drivers for the same or very similar chipset without RAID support will usually NOT be accepted by Windows as valid, and the drivers for a drive controller that supports RAID use also support non RAID use.

Similarly, if a SATA drive controller does NOT support RAID use, if you want the controller to be able to use it's faster SATA mode max. burst data transfer speed, you usually if not always MUST use the drivers for the drive controller without RAID support - the similar drivers for the same or very similar chipset with RAID support will usually NOT be accepted by Windows as valid.
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When the main chipset has a drive controller that supports RAID use, the mboard's bios is NOT set up to use a RAID mode by default. You must change the mode of that drive controller in the bios Setup to USE RAID mode.
The detailed info about that is probably in the manual for your mboard model. in the descriptions of settings in the bios.
If you need help with that, you must provide us with the make and model of your mboard.
The mboard manual often also has information about RAID as well when the mboard supports it.


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August 1, 2011 at 14:03:24
A few more things.

All XP versions have no built in support for SATA drive controllers.

If the mboard's bios Setup has the SATA controllers set to SATA or AHCI or RAID (SATA RAID) mode, the files initially loaded by default from the original CD cannot recognize SATA drive controllers, and because of that can't recognize SATA drives - you must supply the drivers for the SATA controllers to Windows Setup while installing Windows, one way or another.

However, if the mboard's bios Setup has the SATA controllers set to an IDE (EIDE) compatible mode of some sort, SATA drives WILL be recognized by the files loaded from the CD by default, as IDE compatible drives. You are able to complete Setup, and when that's finished, if you want the SATA hard drives to be able to use their max burst data transfer speed, you can install the SATA drive controller drivers, and change bios settings so that you have the SATA controllers set to SATA or AHCI mode.

You DO NOT need to supply SATA controller drivers while loading files from the CD, unless you already have a RAID array set up and you need to have the bios set so it has has the SATA drive controllers set to RAID (SATA RAID) mode.

I have noticed that many mboards have the SATA controllers set to an IDE (EIDE) compatible mode of some sort BY DEFAULT, and in that case, you don't need to install SATA controller drivers while installing 2000 or XP.

If you have only one hard drive connected to the SATA controller that supports RAID, you probably can't set up a RAID array.

The detailed info about how you set the SATA controller mode or similar - it varies depending on the bios version - is probably in the manual for your mboard model, in the descriptions of settings in the bios.
If you need help with that, you must provide us with the make and model of your mboard.

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"( no floppy drive on my tower) "

If the mboard's bios Setup has the SATA controllers set to SATA or AHCI or RAID (SATA RAID) mode, one way of providing the SATA controller drivers while installing Windows is to have them on a floppy disk in a floppy drive. Usually the floppy disk must be in a conventional floppy drive, because the XP CDs only recognize a small number of USB floppy drive models that were available when XP was first released, circa 2002.
If your desktop case has no conventional floppy drive installed in it, most desktop mboards have the floppy data header on them. If yours has that , all you need to do is to borrow a floppy drive and floppy data cable and connect it to that header, and you will be able to install drivers from the floppy disk after pressing F6 near the beginning of Setup when you see the line "Press F6 to..." . OR, buying a new conventional floppy drive and a data cable for it will probably cost you less than $20.

2000 and XP CDs can only find SATA controller drivers when they're on a floppy disk, unless they have been integrated into the contents of a "slipstreamed" CD that you have made. Those CDs cannot recognize the SATA drive controller drivers being on anything else.
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"raid controller can not start, yellow exclamation in device window. created a merged iso boot disk that had the raid drivers for my via pm800 -8237r motherboard, win xp sp2. install went great, created boot disk like program said i needed to( no floppy drive on my tower) but my raid controllers still wont start...."

The RIGHT SATA controller drivers must have been integrated into the contents of a "slipstreamed" CD that you have made. You can't just copy the SATA drive controller drivers to the CD compilation - they must be integrated into the contents of Windows by doing some procedure. E.g. you can do that with the freeware nLite program.

If you integrated the wrong SATA drive controller drivers, or if you did not integrate the right SATA drive controller drivers properly...
if the mboard's bios Setup had the SATA controllers set to an IDE (EIDE) compatible mode of some sort, you would have had no problem installing Windows, despite the fact the SATA drive controller drivers were not working, because the SATA drives were being recognized as IDE compatible drives.


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