Questions about new PC

November 2, 2009 at 06:38:54
Specs: Windows XP
OK, so I saving up to buy the parts for a new PC and wanted to get some opinions on my choice of Hardware and what OS to choose, (XP Vista or 7) depending on what I'm using it for. Keep in mind I'm buying this computer for: High end Gaming, High end 3D graphics creation (multi-million polygons), rendering, and video/image proccessing. On my current PC I've been using XP (which is OK), but I kinda want to switch to Vista or 7 because they just look alot cooler and 7 is supposed to run a little faster (not to mention it supports direct x10), but I was a bit wary because of program combatibility.
The total amount I want to spend is around $500 if not (perferable) lower; I'm on a tight budget.
So I rounded up the parts that I thought would work and got the absolute cheapest (new condition) prices on all of them:

CPU: AMD Phenom II x3 720 (Black edition) $115
GPU:PNY GEFORCE 9600 GSO 768MB $56!!
Hard drive:WD 750gb 32mb cache SATA $60
Ram:OCZ dual channel ddr2-800 4gb kit $35!!!
Optical:Samsung SH-223L $30!!!!
Case:NZXT Lexa S $65
PSU:Coolmax 600-Watt Modular $60

Total:$478 (In case you didn't want to add it up yourself)

So what do you think? Will it do what I need it to? And what OS should I choose?

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November 2, 2009 at 07:01:28
Its a fair computer. I would go with a Graphics Card that had 1024 MB and a 1000 WATT power supply. The cost difference is not that great and you will want this if you plan to use Blue-Ray in the future.

As for the O.S. you have to keep in mind that Vista and Windows 7 have huge memory footprints. You need a Gig to start and probably need more than 4 GB if you are doing games. What that means is that you have to run a 64bit O.S. because 32 bit O.S. only supports 3.5 GB. Running a 64 bit O.S. has its problems with drivers and applications not supporting it yet. (They are getting there fast) So XP has a small foot print and would solve these problems but XP does not have multi-core processor support like Vista or Windows 7. It will use the multi-processor but does not have load balancing built in to to balance you usage of the processor.

These are some things to note. Being that most of this is on the bleeding edge and you are only going with 4 GB of RAM right now, I would suggest using Windows XP but be prepared to upgrade when the Windows 7 SP1 comes out which will probably be in 1 year or less. When you do, be prepared to upgrade your RAM to 6 GB.

I would go ahead and get the 1000 WATT PSU and a 1GB Graphics card because they should not be that much more and you will thank me down the road.

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November 2, 2009 at 07:30:05
1000 watts!? I used a voltage calculator to find out how much wattage I needed and I doubt I really need that much, cause I don't plan on using blue-ray. Although I suppose I could get a 1gb graphics card, and it wouldn't hurt sticking with XP. Would I have to get 64-bit XP because I'm going to use 4gb of ram?

What about the 9600 geforce graphics card; will it run games (like Crysis for example) at a decent framerate on 1gb (around 30 fps would be fine) or should I get the 9800 or 8800? If I choose either the 9800 or 8800 is it neccesary to get 1gb or vidram?

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November 2, 2009 at 07:59:28
This is a budget build, NOT a high end gaming machine. Here's my 2 cents:

- the 9600GSO is an OK gaming card, but it's hardly "high end". The Radeon HD4670 beats it, the 9600GT is even better. And of course, there are other cards even better than that.

- you should be getting DDR2-1066 to use with the'll take a performance hit with DDR2-800.

- there are better boards that the one you chose. Why get the 760G when you can get 770, 780G or 785G for the same price. Just make sure the southbridge is the SB710 or better yet, the SB750. Avoid the older SB700. Here's one possibility:

- avoid modular power supplies. The modular connections have a tendency to fry. Choose a hard-wired unit. And make sure it has a single high amperage +12v rail rather than several +12v rails. BTW, do NOT rely on wattage calculators, they do NOT take amperage into account.

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November 2, 2009 at 08:36:24
So I shouldn't get a modular PSU, or is it just that model or quality of that power supply?
When I say high end gaming, I mean I want a graphics card that can run next gen games at a decent framerate while using high quality settings (without Antialias).

I'm not too knownledgeable about mother boards so thanks for suggesting that mobo, I pretty sure I'll get that one instead.

Do you suggest any (cheap but quality) 600w power supplies?

I'll alos make sure to get some ddr2-1066 ram instead.

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November 2, 2009 at 10:20:39
"I want a graphics card that can run next gen games at a decent framerate while using high quality settings"

Then you don't want an 9600GSO. Not that it's a bad card, but it won't even run today's games on the highest settings. It's more of a lower/mid range card.

"Do you suggest any (cheap but quality) 600w power supplies?"

I suggest you read the following article before deciding on a power should clear up a lot of things:

Power Supply Myths Exposed!

Here's a Corsair 550W PSU with 41A on the single +12v:

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November 2, 2009 at 10:35:55
Thanks for the links!

"Then you don't want an 9600GSO"

So should I get a 9800?

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