problem please help

Micro-star international / Ms-7380
July 26, 2009 at 13:43:27
Specs: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, 2.399 GHz / 3071 MB
2 weeks ago my computer started shutting down on it's own when i played games

complete computer specs:
Field Value
Computer
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name DRAGON (Dragon)
User Name User

Motherboard
CPU Name Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard Name MSI P7N SLI Platinum
Motherboard Chipset Unknown
System Memory 3072 MB
BIOS Type AMI (11/19/08)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)

Display
Video Adapter (evga)NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX (768 MB)
Monitor Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB] (ETL4908122)

Multimedia
Audio Adapter Realtek HD Audio output

Storage
IDE Controller NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller
IDE Controller NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller
IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller VAXSCSI Controller
Disk Drive ST332062 0AS SCSI Disk Device (298 GB)
Optical Drive DVDRW 18X18X12X
Optical Drive ZY4526K SEA540C SCSI CdRom Device
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions
C: (NTFS) 153637 MB (54770 MB free)
D: (NTFS) 151597 MB (150377 MB free)
Total Size 298.1 GB (200.3 GB free)

i cant figure out what is wrong i plugged my cpu fan into my computer case to make it spin faster and i under clocked my gpu to the lowest setting and increased the fan speed on it to max and it helped i can now play games for 3 hours until it shuts off but it still shuts off


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#1
July 26, 2009 at 14:09:03
1. CPU is overheating. Temp readings are missing from your post.
2. GPU is overheating. Temp readings are missing from your post.
3. Overburdened power supply. Power supply specs are missing from your post.

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#2
July 26, 2009 at 14:29:07
the gpu is at 56 degrees celcius when not running any games but after playing for 1hour it goes up to 85

i havent checked it after 2 or 2.3 hours but it shuts off at 3 hours

after 1 hour the cpu was at 75
when not running anything it is at 65

power supply is: extreme power 600w cool master


edit: it shut down on its own again while running another game that does not use the graphics card and i think the cpu got up to 80-90 celcius but it is back down to 66

another edit: i was playing this other game that does not use the graphics card and the cpu got up to 73 after a few seconds


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#3
July 26, 2009 at 16:42:28
any ideas?

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#4
July 26, 2009 at 18:05:04
Feel the back around the psu. If there's no air coming out then the psu fan either died or is glogged. Leave the case open and watch your fans.

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#5
July 26, 2009 at 18:07:09
I've done that and done that and done that all the fans are working

well except for the fan on the very front it is running at 50% but it is spinning very fast much faster than my cpu fan


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#6
July 26, 2009 at 19:00:04
See if your bios lists the cpu fan speed. Is this a stock cooler? Btw those temps on the cpu seem awfully high. Can you see the fins on the heat sink clearly? Btw a lot of overclocked 6600s are posting 65 to 70 max under a load.

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#7
July 26, 2009 at 19:09:16
oh like i said the fan is not plugged into the mobo

it is plugged into the case

because when i plug it into the mobo it spins so slow that the bios registers 0fps

even though it was probably 100-200fps but it spins up to 1500fps

it is the stock or at least i think so the people i bought it from 2years ago made it custom and were not very honest and i have had loads of problems that i blame on them

in fact i had 2 (EVGA) 8800's on it but 1 fryed

oh about the heat sink i CAN see it clearly


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#8
July 26, 2009 at 19:38:03
Ok did you know there are 2 temp readings for the 6600? 1500 rpm seems slow when most cpu fans I've run are usually around 2500 or more unless they are 80mm fans and most oems aren't. Jam? Your input here would be appreciated.

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#9
July 26, 2009 at 19:41:04
they both run at 55 when running nothing when running a game they go up to about 80 in about 5-10mins

edit: and the HIGHEST i have gotten the fan to spin is 1500-1800

another edit: i wanted to remind you that my gpu is UNDER CLOCKED to the lowest settings

last edit: ok now my cpu cores are registering 79-83c AND they also flash to -39c to -41c


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#10
July 26, 2009 at 22:17:50
Try pulling the cooler,clean the old the thermo paste off and replace it with 1 drop of new thermo paste (artic silver is good). I know "done that" right?

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#11
July 26, 2009 at 22:19:34
how do i do that? and what do you mean cooler?

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#12
July 26, 2009 at 22:24:07
In 13 years of working on comps and many more on cb's and such I have seen thermo paste go bad,overheated by oc'ing or just loosen up.

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#13
July 26, 2009 at 22:25:43
where is the thermo plate and how do i fix it?

and what about my gpu how do i fix that?


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#14
July 26, 2009 at 22:55:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3k9...

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#15
July 26, 2009 at 23:14:04
Looks like shut down max is 127c on the 8800. Check out this link. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/2... use ntune fan settings and set gpu fan to 100%. That's a hot board. Nap time lol.

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#16
July 26, 2009 at 23:16:34
Btw I don't have access to my links because I'm not on my comp. I'm on my bberry curve.

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#17
July 27, 2009 at 06:56:37
The video card is OK...the CPU is running way too hot. Check for dust accumulation inside the case, especially on the heatsinks & fan blades. Blow the dust out with compressed air - do NOT use a vacuum.

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#18
July 27, 2009 at 08:30:54
oh 1 other thing that is odd my fan has a 3 pin power connector and the mobo has a 4 pin plug in and apparently it was plugged into the mobo for 2 years

oh and you are saying that if i do all of that it will be fine? i think i will do the same thing for the gpu also

edit: my cpu fan and heat sink look completely different from the ones in the video


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#19
July 27, 2009 at 09:19:04
ok i installed ntune again and i found something weird

system fan: 31889rpm

nforce: 676 rpm

aux2: 18rpm


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#20
July 27, 2009 at 13:42:58
31000 rpm wow lol. Try coretemp. Thx jam I thought as much. Cpu is building heat just fast enough to last a couple hours. Op leave the gpu alone. Once that cpu is cooler the gpu should drop a few to.

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#21
July 27, 2009 at 14:21:05
hmm well as soon i get my money in the bank im going to get some thermal paste and canned air

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#22
July 27, 2009 at 15:58:39
i downloaded core temp like you said to do and my cores are getting 80-90% load and I'm not running anything besides anti virus scan and they are getting to 85c

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#23
July 27, 2009 at 16:21:59
To hot. Get the thermo paste or an after market cpu kooler. Most come with the thermo paste.

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#24
July 28, 2009 at 20:08:50
i got the thermal paste and it helped a lot but the cores still get to 75 when i play games for 3-5mins but the cpu temp reading does not get above 63 and the fan still does not spin worth anything

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#25
August 5, 2009 at 11:25:16
hey i got a new fan in and everything is fine the old one had a bad bearing that's why it was so hot and why it did not spin very fast

now I'm wondering about my new one it is the fan that was supposed to be in there in the first place but it is spinning at 1900rpm i know(because i looked up the model D60188-001) that it can spin at 5300 but i cant seem to get it to spin that fast not that it needs to but... can i get it spinning faster without making it hotter


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#26
August 6, 2009 at 09:35:29
You would need a fan controller. Thermotake and zantec both make them.

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#27
August 6, 2009 at 09:46:12
well... i wish i could find a program that would do that but if that is the only way so be it

also i tried speed fan it does not work for it the bios is making it spin no faster than
2200 rpm


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#28
August 6, 2009 at 09:52:29
Because the voltage is limited from the mb. The aftermarket controllers get their power from the psu. How are your temps now?

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#29
August 6, 2009 at 09:58:57
46-55 at idle for the cpu cores

oh and one question how do you monitor the after market coolers if they plug into the psu


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#30
August 6, 2009 at 10:25:05
The aftermarket fan controllers plug into the psu and the fan plugs into them. Most have rpm sensors built in.

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#31
August 6, 2009 at 12:01:03
so you are saying it will not spin faster than 2000rpm unless i get one of these? no matter how hot it gets?

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#32
August 7, 2009 at 21:42:09
It might. Run a game for a few hrs and see.

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#33
August 8, 2009 at 17:35:48
didn't get above 2200 rpm

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#34
August 9, 2009 at 07:06:58
Temps ok when gaming?

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#35
August 11, 2009 at 12:56:34
nothing over 68

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#36
August 11, 2009 at 20:53:28
Not to bad for that chip.

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