PC upgrade question, medium budget

September 25, 2017 at 02:05:39
Specs: Windows 7
Hi, this is my current PC config:

ASUS M5A78L-M LX V2
AMD FX-4100 4x3,6 GHZ 12MB CACHE
GEFORCE GT520 2048MB
RAM 8GB 667MHz ( DDR3-1333 / PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM UDIMM )
Bandit Power ATX-450W
SSD Samsung SSD Evo 850 250GB

Could anybody pint me if this parts ar good to replace in my PC:

Intel Core i5-4570
MSI H81M-E33
SilentiumPC Spartan 3 LT HE1012
ATX SilentiumPC 500W Vero L2 Bronze

My budget is about 300$

Thanks in advance!


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#1
September 25, 2017 at 10:30:21
The i5-4570 is a 4th Gen CPU from around 2013. The motherboard isn't overclockable plus it only has 2 memory slots. The DDR3-1333 is "slow" RAM for the i5 & it was slow for the FX CPU too. What about a graphics card? Are you gonna stick with the outdated GT520??

My suggestion is to just replace the crappy Bandit 450W PSU, install a decent graphics card, then ride it out for a while. Build a modern PC when you have enough money to do it right.

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#2
September 25, 2017 at 13:39:24
I agree with riider in that your money would be better spent on a GTX1050 or GTX1050Ti, a Corsair 500W power supply and possibly faster memory. As an alternative, you can look in your BIOS and see if there is an XMP setting for your memory, if there is it could OC the memory up to DDR3-1600MHz and that would save you money for the future. The power supply would only serve to improve durability and reliability but the graphics card would greatly improve overall performance in gaming, or with anything graphic or video related. Increasing memory speed would improve all performance across the board but less drastic than the graphics card would.
The power supply and graphics card would be usable on a more complete upgrade so you would not be wasting your money though if you go to a newer Intel CPU you would need DDR4 memory so anything spent on that could not be recooped.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#3
September 26, 2017 at 02:34:12
I don't play games etc so I don't need graphic card.
I have now i5-4690k so I'm looking for board, ram and coller from i5

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#4
September 26, 2017 at 03:50:10
here ya go

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TmyZNN

pentium G4620 (3.7 GHz dual core with hyperthreading) kaby lake
2x4gb ddr4 @ 2400MHz
MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151
hyper 212 evo cooler

for about 232$ & no need to replace PSU

go here to compare cpu/gpu/etc:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...

or a 6600k setup:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sjHFwP

core i5-6600k quadcore
2x4gb ddr4 @ 2400MHz
Asus - Z170-K ATX LGA1151
hyper 212 evo cooler

for about 398$ & no need to replace PSU

overlock to 4.5GHz ^^

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#5
September 26, 2017 at 03:55:45
forgot to ask, for what tasks are you going to use this pc?
general purpose or also heavy cpu tasks?

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#6
September 26, 2017 at 05:35:42
"no need to replace PSU"

Did you look at the specs for the Bandit 450W? It's low end garbage.

"I don't play games etc so I don't need graphic card"

OK, so what's the point of this upgrade? Or to ask a little differently, what is it that you can't do with your current setup that you think a $300 "investment" will cure?

"I have now i5-4690k"

It's still a 3-4 year old 4th Gen CPU. But since it's an unlocked "K" model, you'll probably want to get a board that's overclockable, so look for one based on the Z97 chipset.

https://ark.intel.com/products/seri...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...


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#7
September 26, 2017 at 08:37:42
Lot of programing apps, editors etc. Now it's slowing down, sometimes thinking to long :-)

I'm thinking board with OC to get 4,5GHz.

I was also thinking bout i5 6600k and board for OC...


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#8
September 26, 2017 at 20:47:10
Since you already have the 4690K then you do not need to consider the 6600K if you are going to limit your budget. As stated you need a Z97 motherboard in order to be able to overclock it. There is no guaranty that you will be able to reach 4.5GHz clock speed but a reasonable chance (look up "silicon lottery" to see why).
Note that you will need to completely reinstall Windows when you change the motherboard. If your copy of Windows is a factory or purchased OEM version then you will need to purchase a new copy of Windows to install and activate it.
Note your computer maybe getting slow for other reasons like it may need a good cleaning out (not dust (though it may actually need that also). If you remove unused programs, do a disk clean up, set programs to not launch with Windows, run Malwarebytes, and probably more. Then upgrade your memory to 16GB (2x8GB matched set) of the fastest your board is recommended for, you may find that it is not as slow as you think any longer.
Upgrading to the 4690K is of course better, upgrading to the 6600K would be still better (DDR4 memory required) but consider your budget and what you can reasonably afford. And, yes, you do really need tor replace the power supply, cheap power supplies are responsible for many ruined cpu's, motherboards, graphics cards, and more.
CPU + MB + PS + RAM + case with USB 3.0 on the front, etc. will not be at the price you said you have to spend.
If any programs, apps, web sites are are graphics in nature then you will benefit from a better graphics card. This though you can easily change out later if you realize that it is really needed.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#9
September 29, 2017 at 13:10:56
"Now it's slowing down"

Probably not hardware related. More likely you just have a bunch of garbage files bogging down the system, possibly malware/spyware. Do you run a cleaner? Do you regularly scan for infections? Have you disabled unnecessary startup apps? Have you installed unneeded/unused programs?


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#10
September 30, 2017 at 21:12:43
riider is right. My daughter has a 5 year old laptop, good amount of RAM (16GB), 1TB HD only half full, i5-quad core CPU, NVidia 650M graphics, etc. that she uses for design purposes (Photoshop, AutoCad, etc.) . She recently started complaining that it was bogging down in graphics programs and maybe it was time to think about replacing it. I saw no reason it should not still be very serviceable so I spent hours cleaning out junk and repairing little errors that build up in an older system. Here is a list of what I did that should help you as well:
Run Malwarebytes (found 3 minor things).
Run Antivirus program (no additional found).
Do a Disk Clean Up (left recycle bin for her to clean, otherwise everything else).
Update Graphics Driver from NVidia site.
Uninstalled unused programs.
Disabled start up programs.
Checked Device Manager for problems (none).
Restarted and ran Tweaking.com repairs including all prescans that were recommended.

Now it runs like it did a couple of years ago and there are no more complaints.

http://www.tweaking.com/content/pag...

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#11
October 3, 2017 at 01:53:45
Check out my i5-6600k OC on air (212 evo), click on my name.
I'm scared to run prime95 or intelburntest right now since i hit 100C, but its stable.
Under normal load 70C max.

Here is a skylake OC guide:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/...

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#12
October 3, 2017 at 20:53:45
hidde663: That is great for testing and seeing how far you can push it and it is good to hear that you chose a good quality air cooler instead of the less reliable liquid models BUT 70C max under normal load is just too high for normal everyday use. You will be severely shortening the life of your CPU and other components unless you really do want an excuse to upgrade as soon as the newest comes out. I am running a 4690K at 4.3GHz (mild OC), it idles at low 30C and runs at low 40C on air cooling so I can easily run 4.5 or 4.6GHz and still have reasonable temps for 24/7 use including gaming and work (I just have to find the time and motivation as it is fast enough for my needs now).

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#13
October 4, 2017 at 00:39:55
RE #12

70C on 100% load video encoding for 30min (I call that normal load)

35C idle, 60C maby during games.

I think thats good enough

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#14
October 4, 2017 at 16:20:38
Even though many appear to say that the 6600K likes it hot, I can see 70C or even 80C during testing but I would not feel comfortable running it that hot for daily use. Your choice though.

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#15
October 5, 2017 at 00:50:24
For some reason i feel safe below 1.35vcore & 85C max temps.

I guess we'll see in in the next few years how it holds up.

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