Solved PC Building help please?

August 4, 2013 at 00:41:07
Specs: Macintosh
Hi. Im a newb to building PC's (this is my first one!) and I have an EXTREMELY low budget (500$), but I want to run BF3 on Ultra smoothly at a resolution of <720p. I also want to be able to do so on BF4 on the setting High. Will this build WORK, in the first place, and will it meet my requirements?

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 FD-CA-CORE-1000-USB3-BL Black Steel MicroATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Motherboard: ASRock 880GM-LE FX AM3+ AMD 880G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

GPU: EVGA 02G-P4-3658-KR GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST SuperClocked 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card

Power Supply: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

CPU: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model BLS4G3D1339DS1S00

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

DVD-ROM: ASUS Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E818AAT - OEM

Any suggestions that would make my computer's performance better but stay within my budget would help a lot!

Thanks


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August 4, 2013 at 12:57:00
BTW, the Corsair 430W power suppply is fine. It gets recommended in these forums all the time, it's sort of the "forum favorite" (I have 2 of them). How are you going to save $60 on the HDD? The Seagate 500GB/16MB cache drive that you listed sells for $60. The Western Digital 1TB/64MB cache drive that I recommended sells for $65 & is a much better deal.

I came up with an alternative build mixing yours & mine:

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 - $28
CPU: Intel Pentium G850 dual core - $82
M-board: MSI H77MA-G43 LGA 1155 mATX - $75
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 - $59
or G.SKILL 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1600 - $38
Video card: GTX 650 Ti BOOST 2GB - $155
HDD: WDC 1TB/64MB cache - $65
Optical drive: ASUS DVD burner - $17
Power supply: Corsair 430W - $20

Total = $501 w/8GB or $480 w/4GB

EDIT: Here's a few CPU comparisons, FX4300 vs G850:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/19...

http://www.ultimatehardware.net/amd...

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Penti...

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August 4, 2013 at 02:13:46
Couple of obvious omissions, you haven't included a processor or mentioned which OS you are using as far as I can see - they could bust your budget depending on your choices.

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August 4, 2013 at 04:30:22
Like johnr said, you didn't list a CPU?

I would dump that motherboard. It's based on the older 880G/SB710 chipset combo, only supports USB 2.0, & only has 2 RAM slots. The following Biostar board is slightly cheaper (use the promo code), it's based on the more modern 970/SB950 chipset combo, supports USB 3.0, & has 4 RAM slots:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

http://www.biostar-usa.com/app/en-u...

It's an ATX board rather than mATX so you'll have to select a different case. Here's a one to consider:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

EDIT: I just noticed you picked the wrong RAM. You should be at least be getting DDR3-1600, DDR3-1866 would even be better. DDR3-1333 is going to hold you back. You should also be getting a matched pair, not a single stick. I'd go for 8GB (2 x 4GB) but if it puts you too far over budget, go for 4GB (2 x 2GB) & add more later.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

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August 4, 2013 at 05:01:08
One more thing, $5 more toward the HDD will get you double the capacity & 4 times the cache (64MB vs 16MB):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

EDIT: sorry, I keep finding more things wrong. Why did you pick a DVD-ROM drive instead of a DVD-burner? This ASUS burner is $2 cheaper using the promo code:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Since you didn't list a CPU, I'll pick one for you - AMD FX-4300 Vishera 3.8GHz (4.0GHz) for $100 after promo code:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

The only things I wouldn't change are the power supply & video card.

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August 4, 2013 at 09:27:35
Oh yeah... i forgot to add a CPU in there and switched it with the memory unit... silly me. The CPU is actually the Intel Pentium G850 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623G850

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August 4, 2013 at 10:45:09
"The CPU is actually the Intel Pentium G850 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623G850"

That changes everything. You're going to have to pick a different motherboard because of the different socket type, so plan on spending a lot more than $55. IMO, the AMD build would be better.

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August 4, 2013 at 12:05:17
thanks for everything. just one more thing... will 430W be enough to use the GFX card?

EDIT: oh and can i use a cheaper hard drive? just to save some 60 bucks :P

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August 4, 2013 at 12:53:26
Below is a comparison of the 2 builds. You haven't picked a motherboard so I picked one for you:

Your Intel build:

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 - $28
CPU: Intel Pentium G850 dual core - $82
M-board: MSI H77MA-G43 LGA 1155 mATX - $75
Memory: Crucial 4GB DDR3-1333 - $31
Video card: GTX 650 Ti BOOST 2GB - $155
HDD: Seagate 500GB/16MB cache - $60
Optical drive: ASUS DVD-ROM - $24
Power supply: Corsair 430W - $20

Total = $475 w/4GB (single)

My AMD build:

Case: Antec VSK-4000 - $35
CPU: AMD FX-4300 quad core - $100
M-board: BIOSTAR TA970 AM3+ - $55
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 - $59
or G.SKILL 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1600 - $38
Video card: GTX 650 Ti BOOST 2GB - $155
HDD: WDC 1TB/64MB cache - $65
Optical drive: ASUS DVD burner - $17
Power supply: Corsair 430W - $20

Total = $506 w/8GB RAM or $485 w/4GB RAM


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August 4, 2013 at 12:57:00
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BTW, the Corsair 430W power suppply is fine. It gets recommended in these forums all the time, it's sort of the "forum favorite" (I have 2 of them). How are you going to save $60 on the HDD? The Seagate 500GB/16MB cache drive that you listed sells for $60. The Western Digital 1TB/64MB cache drive that I recommended sells for $65 & is a much better deal.

I came up with an alternative build mixing yours & mine:

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 - $28
CPU: Intel Pentium G850 dual core - $82
M-board: MSI H77MA-G43 LGA 1155 mATX - $75
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 - $59
or G.SKILL 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1600 - $38
Video card: GTX 650 Ti BOOST 2GB - $155
HDD: WDC 1TB/64MB cache - $65
Optical drive: ASUS DVD burner - $17
Power supply: Corsair 430W - $20

Total = $501 w/8GB or $480 w/4GB

EDIT: Here's a few CPU comparisons, FX4300 vs G850:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/19...

http://www.ultimatehardware.net/amd...

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Penti...

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#9
August 4, 2013 at 13:07:58
ok thnx! Ill combine the two to make a SUPERBUILD!!! thanks again riider!

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#10
August 5, 2013 at 06:12:14
one thing I did and I was not happy with later on down the track 500 gig hard drive to darn small in a gaming pc you mite want to rethink that or it will cost you more money later on and not to step on any toes but I found z77- 555 a very good mobo and you can get 2x4 gig of sniper 1600 for 50$ from new egg I hope this was helpful
but hay I am a noves and I did a lot of time searching and asking a lot of questions on this very site ...so now I am returning the favour I guess by trying to help others with what I have picked up

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#11
August 5, 2013 at 09:47:48
thnx for the info. ill keep that in mind

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#12
August 5, 2013 at 11:10:32
@riider can you tell me if a 4x240 pin is required? i think i can just use a 2x240 pin motherboard because i am only gonna have two 240pin memory units but im not sure

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#13
August 7, 2013 at 05:01:49
you don't need to have 4x240 but as a I have fell in to the cheap as trap be for you mite want to save up some cash and build it the way you want it the first time because im telling you now .after a cupule of months you will be kicking your self and you will want to build another one that is better and faster so my advice is do it right the first time and you will be glad you did or go to centre com and buy one that is ready to go

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