P4 2.6 Performance lagging

July 28, 2010 at 18:42:55
Specs: win7 ultimate, 2.6p4/3.5gig ram
i have a 2.6p4 with 3gig of ram..os running on one drive,,programs running on another drive and storage on a 1tb sata drive...i have done everything to speed my computer up..no viruses, no spyware etc..i am running win 7 ultimate with 3gig of ram and this thing just wont keep up..it lags all the time and just doesnt perform fast..i dont know what to do ..plz help me ,,also how do i create a dual boot os with win 7ultimate already on here

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July 28, 2010 at 21:02:06
is it possible this 2.6 p4 with 2gig of ram cant cut it anymore with just going back and forth with applications and doing stuff...its just so lagging when i try to do more than one thing at a time,,the cpu cant keep up

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July 28, 2010 at 22:17:25
Have you checked the CPU temperature?
A 2.6 P4 has to be an older machine and if you've never blasted its internals with canned air, the heatsinks and fans may not be keeping the CPU cool enough. P4s slow way down when they get too hot.

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July 31, 2010 at 09:58:29
the c drive is running at 88 degrees F. i cant hardly multitask at all this thing is lagging and so freaking slow..but i dont have any viruses or malware or anything like that,,i dont know what to do

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August 1, 2010 at 03:21:43
buy a new machine if your not happy with what you have..you could go for a bit of over clocking, just for fun, you may get a bit more out of it..

i hate computers!
but cant help myself....

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August 1, 2010 at 04:36:46
To prove if it's a s/w ie too much junk, how about reinstalling windows?

Either take an image of your drive first.
Or if you have enough space, partition & install another windows on that partition. If after only installing a few programs, you notice a difference.

Then, re-install completely.

This might be a load of b******s but it might save you upgrading for a bit longer.

A thank you would be nice, if I have helped.

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August 1, 2010 at 10:13:44
Well prince dude. That's just awesome advice to buy another machine. This isn't a site for selling stuff dude. Clive and jack thanks for your advice. I'm hearing that win 7 doesn't do well on memory less than 4gig, 3 at a minimum

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August 2, 2010 at 08:00:22
Hi bbaughman2008,

b4 u format the machine may u do this couple of this
-Clearing the Temp
-Clearing the Internet Temp Files
-Remove Unused Printers:
-Remove unnecessary software
-Remove the entire unused shortcut and shift it on d drive
-Please maintain minimum 8GB free space in C Drive.
-Delete Unnecessary or unused User Profile.
-Delete extended or supporting software or utilities
-Avoid unnecessary software in startup
- Increase the virtual memory
- Change the view to classic view
- change the performance setting to best performance

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August 2, 2010 at 10:41:38
I put win xp back onto my machine. Tks dynak for that stuff. Several questions. Is it true what I said earlier about win7 not running well on less than 3gig. Also. I have a one terribyte drive with all my pics and music on it. After putting win xp sp2 on I can't access my drive anymore. It ask me if I want to format that drive. I already have that drive seperated into 3 partitions. 1)documents 2)pics/music which I can't access and 3) 300gig unaccoulated

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August 2, 2010 at 11:21:10
"Is it true what I said earlier about win7 not running well on less than 3gig."

Vista and Windows 7 require a higher minimum amount of ram than XP, but your system may be fine, with, say, 1gb or more, and you may not see much if any performance difference with more than 2gb of ram installed.

You list 3.5gb of ram in the blue bar in your first post.

You may benefit from taking out the 512mb module - the computer may perform better with 3gb rather than 3.5gb.

The 4gb virtual memory address limit for 32 bit operating systems.
An example of 3gb working better than 4gb in a 32 bit operating system.

See Response 6:

"After putting win xp sp2 on I can't access my drive anymore.
It ask me if I want to format that drive."

If you can see the data on a computer that is booting Vista or Windows 7, but you can't see the data on a computer that is booting XP (or 2000), see below.

If you can't see the data on a computer that is booting Vista or Windows 7, or in any case....

If the drive is connected internally, check the SATA data cable.

The connector on each end should "latch" into the socket on the drive and on the mboard, or on the drive controller card - it should not move when you merely brush your hand against it near the socket - if it does, mere vibration can cause a poor connection of it - use another SATA data cable that does "latch", or tape the connector in place.
(There is a slight projection or bump on one side of the outside of the connector that "latches" it into the socket - it's easily broken off or damaged)

The same thing applies for the SATA power connection.

If the drive is in an external enclosure and connected via a USB connection to the computer (the same things apply to firewire connected external drives, and eSATA connected external drives except that the eSATA connection has no problem supplying enough current; if it's connected via an eSATA connection, also check the SATA data cable, as above).......

Troubleshooting USB device problems including for flash drives, external drives, memory cards.
See Response 1:

Check that out first.

Rarely, not all the ports on the back of a desktop case may be able to supply 500ma each.

If you have a desktop computer, Note that I answered a Topic on this site recently where a guy had an external drive, which does require the full 500ma, connected to a port on the back of a desktop case - it would not work properly when a webcam was in the port next to it, but it worked fine when the webcam was unplugged. Ports on the back of a desktop case often have two ports connected to the same USB controller module that are ports one above the other - you could try connecting the cable to one of those and leaving the other un-used.

If you still can't see the data on the drive in XP....

If you can see the data on a computer that is booting Vista or Windows 7, but you can't see the data on a computer that is booting XP (or 2000).......

If the terrabyte drive was software partitioned (using the NTFS ) and formatted in Vista or Windows 7, you may NOT be able to see the data on the drive in XP or 2000, despite the fact that the data shows up in Vista or Windows 7 fine, because Vista's and Windows 7's NTFS version is slightly different than previous NTFS versions.

If you continue to use XP, the only cure for that is to

- convert the NTFS partitions to FAT32 partitions, if that's even possible for the NTFS partitions made by Vista or Windows 7, by using a third party program.
However, FAT32 partitions can waste more drive space, because the minimum allocation unit for drives or partitions larger than 32gb is 32kb - NTFS uses 4kb allocation units - , no file on a FAT32 partition can be larger than 4gb, and some programs are not optimized to work on FAT32 partitions (e.g. XP MCE's and probably Vista's and Windows 7's Media Center will "complain" if you specify a FAT32 partition for storing recorded TV or video data on ).
FAT32 partitions can be read by 2000 and up, no problem, but you can't make FAT32 partitions larger than 32gb in the operating system itself, due to Microsoft's defaults.

OR -

- connect the drive to a computer that has Vista or Windows 7 on it

- copy all the data on the drive to elsewhere - if you don't have enough space available there are web sites you can copy the data to temporarily -
You must have Windows (Control Panel - ) Folder Options set so all hidden and system files on the drive are visible in the operating system before you copy the data.

- delete the existing partition(s) on the terrabyte drive in Disk Management in Vista or Windows 7.
If you have multiple partitions on the drive, if you want them to be the same size later, make notes about what size they were BEFORE you delete the partitions.
(1,024 mb / gb; 1,024 gb / terrabyte)

- connect the drive to the computer that boots XP or 2000. XP must have at least SP1 updates installed; 2000 must have at least SP3 updates installed.

- make one or more NTFS partitions on the terrabyte drive in Disk Management in XP or 2000.

- copy the data you saved to the drive.

It doesn't matter which operating system you copy the data in, as long as it and the mboard bios supports recognizing drives or partitions larger than 137gb manufacturer's size / 128gb in Windows, and the partition(s) was (were) made using a NTFS version previous to the version in Vista and Windows 7.

2000 and up operating systems will then all be able to see all the data on the drive.

See Response 1 and 2 in this for more info:

If the drive is connected internally or externally, you can see all the files and folders, but you get "access denied" messages when you try to access some folders and files, or all folders and files, you must "Take Ownership" of the folders and files you get the message for, because they are protected by user protection features built into the 2000 and up operating system.

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP

NOTE: you probably have to reboot the computer before the settings you change actually take effect !

"I put win xp back onto my machine."

XP doesn't have the drivers built in for most things that first came out after XP was first released, circa 2001, and it doesn't have some of the drivers built in for things made before that.

Whenever you load Windows from a regular Windows CD (or DVD) from scratch, after Setup is finished you must load the drivers for the mboard, particularly the main chipset drivers, in order for Windows to have the proper drivers for and information about your mboard hardware, including it's AGP or PCI-E, ACPI, USB 2.0 if it has it, and hard drive controller support. If you have a generic system and have the CD that came with the mboard, all the necessary drivers are on it. If you load drivers from the web, brand name system builders and mboard makers often DO NOT have the main chipset drivers listed in the downloads for your model - in that case you must go to the maker of the main chipset's web site, get the drivers, and load them.

Load the main chipset drivers first.

Your drives may not be capable of running at their max rated speeds until AFTER you have installed the main chipset drivers.

Get and load the drivers for devices built into the mboard that XP does not have the built in drivers for otherwise. Get them from the brand name system's web site, or from the the mboard manufacturer's web site if you have a generic desktop system, in the software downloads for your model.

Vista and Windows 7 are much newer, so they can recognize things on newer mboards better with what's built into it; however it's still a good idea to load the drivers/ *.inf files to make sure the op system has all the proper drivers for and info about the mboard components.

If your XP CD does not have SP3 updates included.....

See Response 6
starting at
"If your XP CD does not have SP3 updates included, the best time to load them is right after you have installed Windows from scratch...."

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August 2, 2010 at 13:22:02
You probably shouldn't be running Windows 7 on a 2.6ghz P4.

Either buy a new machine, or switch over to XP.

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August 2, 2010 at 14:06:24
If the performance of the computer was adequate after you had installed Windows 7 and had installed your anti-malware software, with the same amount of ram, or less ram, there are lots of things that can cause Windows to slow down after you have installed it.


The partition Windows was installed on, which is usually C, must have at least some minimum amount of free space on it, say, at least 10% of the partition's space. If there isn't enough free space left, that slows down Windows significantly.

Some anti-malware programs (e.g. trial or paid Norton products, free or paid Avast!, the free from the ISP Telus Security suite) slow down the performance of Windows a lot more than others (e.g. free or paid AVG 9.x. , paid Malwarebytes - the free version has no resident modules).

If you have more than one anti-malware program or third party firewall program installed in Windows that has one or more resident modules - a part that runs all the time in the background looking for suspicious activity, the resident module(s) of only ONE of them that does the same thing should be running at any one time - the other ones should be DISABLED from running in the program's settings, otherwise the resident module(s) are likely to clash with each other and slowdown Windows when they do.

In Vista, I have noted than when you disable the Resident Shield in AVG 9.x, it's only resident module you need to disable, at least in the free version (the paid version has a firewall as well) you get a Security message from Vista that says something like no anti-virus software is running, and when you click on that for more info, it says both AVG and Windows Defender are not running. Don't enable Window's Defender's resident module if you are going to be enabling AVG's resident module - AVG disables it when it is installed after Windows Defender, so it should not be enabled.
(Windows Defender was installed at some time after I installed Vista by Automatic Update set to it's default settings. That's not installed automatically in XP. )

You can only disable the resident modules in the Norton (Symantec) anti-malware products I've examined for specific periods of time.
Don't install, or Un-install already installed, Norton products BEFORE you install SP3 updates in XP, to avoid major problems.


Have resident modules....
- paid AdAware, free and paid Avast!, free and paid AVG 9.x, trial and paid Norton (Symantec) products - some have many , free and paid Spybot, paid Malwarebytes, Microsoft's free Windows Defender (it clashes with AVG 9.x in some circumstances), etc., etc.
Most third party firewalls have at least one resident module.
Spybot has a resident module similar to that for a firewall.

Do not have resident modules......

free AdAware, free Malwarebytes, etc.

Using online anti-malware scanners usually does not require that you disable the resident modules of installed anti-malware or third party firewalls.

- Windows MediaPlayer versions 10 and 11 have a feature where you can enable sharing of you media.
Don't enable that. It bogs down Windows all the time.

- you can get an add on for XP called Windows Search (Windows Desktop Search). Don't install it. It bogs down Windows all the time.

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August 2, 2010 at 14:22:36
I did reinstall xp home and can't access the data on my pics/music partition. Not sure why. I also have sp2 installed.

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August 2, 2010 at 14:51:02
See Response 9.

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