On my SATA dvd burner the POI mode is set to

January 30, 2011 at 17:41:01
Specs: Windows XP
In the BIOS my SATA DVD burner (ATAI DVD A DH24AAL) the PIO mode is set on 4. The DVD burner will read and write data on a DVD and eve play Movies but I can not make a video DVD. What is PIO Mode and if I change it to 1 or 3; what will it do?

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#1
January 30, 2011 at 18:51:49
It's not important what the bios shows.
What's important is what Windows detects.

If your mboard does NOT have an early Intel 8xx main chipset.....

RIGHT click on My Computer - Properties - Hardware - Device Manager

Double click on IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers

Double click on each Primary IDE channel, or Secondary IDE channel,
then click on the Advanced settings tab

If there is a drive connected to it......
- a hard drive is probably shown to be in Ultra DMA Mode 5 or Ultra DMA Mode 6
- the highest mode an optical drive can be shown to be in is for a combo DVD burner drive - Ultra DMA Mode 4
- if any drive is shown to be in PIO mode, somethings wrong that's causing that.

If you see no drive set to PIO mode, nothing's wrong - there's some other reason you can't make video DVDs


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#2
February 1, 2011 at 16:40:51
However wrote an answare to my question."In the BIOS my SATA DVD burner (ATAI DVD A DH24AAL) the PIO mode is set on 4"; How do I write back. I found after following his/her instructions that all I find is Ultma DMA Mode 5. I am using WindowsXP Prof.

However you have come the closest to giving me instructions and directions to help me. Thank You from Texas

In my BIOS Setup Utility it shows the following:
Devise: ATAOI CD-ROM
Vender: ATAPI DVD A DH24AAL
LBA Mode: Supported
PIO Mode: 4
Asyac DMA: MultiWord DMA-2
Ultra DMA: Ultra DMA-5


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#3
February 1, 2011 at 20:22:15
You do NOT need to mess with any setting in the bios regarding an optical drive !

All modern drives (made since about 1997) - hard drives and optical (CD or DVD) drives - support PIO modes. Any drive that supports MultiWord DMA-2 mode ( optical drives only) or UDMA 2 and up modes also supports all of the possible (slower) PIO modes.

There is no such thing as an optical drive that can show it's running in Ultra DMA mode 5 (100mb/sec max burst data transfer speed) in XP - the highest possible is Ultra DMA Mode 4 (66mb/sec max burst data transfer speed ), and that's only for combo DVD burner drives (read and burn both CDs and DVDs) that can burn DVD-R or DVD+R disks at 16X or greater.

Ultra DMA Mode 5 is commonly the max for IDE hard drives 80gb or smaller.

The fastest SATA optical drives have the same max burst data transfer speed as the fastest IDE optical drives. The max speed is determined by the max speed you can spin an optical disk without you risking it flying apart, and by the max amount of data that can be stored in one "circle" of a data track on the disk (the data is stored on the disk as a spiral track of data like a phonograph record, except the data on an optical disks starts at the inside near the center, not near the outside edge).
There is no advantage to an optical drive being SATA other than convenience - if you don't have enough places to connect an IDE optical drive but you have spare SATA headers, you can buy a SATA optical drive and connect it to one of those SATA headers.

Optical drives that cannot burn DVD-R or DVD+R disks at 16X or greater have a slower max speed. MultiWord DMA-2 mode is common for CD-Rom drives and older CD burner drives and older DVD-rom drives. Newer CD burner drives and newer DVD-rom drives can have a max speed of Ultra DMA Mode 2 in XP (33mb/sec max burst data transfer speed).


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#4
February 7, 2011 at 14:08:55
My brother-in-law read what you wrote and showed me how to change the Ultra DMA mode to 4 in the BIOS and now Windows sees it as 4. but sill will not burn video.

I wonder if I lower it to 2 and change the PIO to 0 if that will do?

Thank you from Texas.


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#5
February 7, 2011 at 14:32:08
If the drive was in PIO mode and it's now in UltraDMA mode 4, that's the mode it's supposed to be in.

It the drive will burn anything else to the same type of disk you were trying to burn video to, CD or DVD, then the problems has to be with whatever program you're using or whatever you're doing wrong in the program.
If the drive will not burn ANYTHING to the same type of disk you were trying to burn video to, CD or DVD, then the drive is malfunctioning. Combo DVD burner drives - that can read and burn both CDs and DVDs, have at least two lasers and associated circuits - sometimes one of them malunctions.
It sounds like you need get your brother in law to help you, or whoever.


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#6
February 7, 2011 at 20:48:24
I really thank you for all your help. The CD/DVD burner will read and write data to the it and CD/DVD creator will come back saying invaladed paramenter and the other programs will say almost the same thing. And other progams will just ffreez up. I just bougt the devive 2 weeks ago.

Something tells me that you are either a theacht or a tech for some company. But want I know fron your your name is that you are old enough to know what tubes are. My class project was to re-diazine a fm trasmitter that used a tube tat olny used a one tube that cost a little over $1000.00 and last for 6 mounths to a two 4-1000.

Again, thank you for all the time you have spent in helping me.


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#7
February 7, 2011 at 21:51:59
Does it do that for both CDs and DVDs or just one of the two ?

If you quoted the exact error messages that might help a lot.
The problem may be caused by something else.

Check your SATA data cables. The connector on each end should "latch" into the socket on the drive and on the mboard, or on the drive controller card - it should not move when you merely brush your hand against it near the socket - if it does, mere vibration can cause a poor connection of it - use another SATA data cable that does "latch", or tape the connector in place.
(There is a slight projection or bump on one side of the outside of the connector that "latches" it into the socket - it's easily broken off or damaged)

The same thing applies for the SATA power connection.
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See response 2 in this - try cleaning the contacts on the ram modules, and making sure the modules are properly seated:
http://www.computing.net/hardware/w...
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If that doesn't help, it's possible your drive is faulty but it's not likely.
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"Something tells me that you are either a theacht or a tech for some company."

Regarding computers, I'm self taught. I'm not a teacher, or a technician, I don't work for any technical or computer related company, but I'm a Virgo and I do like to explain things thuroughly. I have hundreds of saved text files, some with references to posts I've made here, that I copy and paste in posts here, but I also custom type a lot of the stuff in posts here.

" But want I know fron your your name is that you are old enough to know what tubes are. "

Yes.
See response 17:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...


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#8
February 18, 2011 at 12:37:23
I hve been re-reading the part you wrote,"Optical drives that cannot burn DVD-R or DVD+R disks at 16X or greater have a slower max speed." Bucaues the max on this burner is 24X DVD +/- Triple Format; maybe whatever software I use does not know how to set the speed on this drive. However, all the software I use comes back with< "wrong perimeters".

I am still going to exepament with it. What do I have to lose? If it does not do what I need it to do, than it is useless and next time when I buy a DVD burner, I will know the diffenence between IDE and SATA.

Again, Thank you for all of your help and I have learned a lot from you.


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#9
February 18, 2011 at 12:42:06
I logged off and then remebered the RAM and ROM part about what you said. Now it shows it as a DVD-RAM; however when I put a blank DVD ( either + or -) it changes to a CD-ROM.

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#10
February 18, 2011 at 13:52:41
"maybe whatever software I use does not know how to set the speed on this drive."

That's possible if it's older software but usually you should be able to set the speed to the max the software supports no problem.

However, there are some burning programs, when they detect the model of the drive, if the model is not one of the ones the software has info about, the burning program will NOT allow you to burn anything.
E.g. BHS B's Recorder Gold

In any case, XP has a simple built in CD burning (only) program - you can select files then RIGHT click on the highlighted files, and choose to burn them to a CD using that program, no matter what model of the drive you connect is, as long as it's detected properly by Windows and it supports at least burning CDs.

Also, higher versions of Windows Media Player have a built in burning program that can burn at least CDs, no matter what model of the drive you connect is, as long as it's detected properly by Windows and it supports at least burning CDs.

"However, all the software I use comes back with< "wrong perimeters".

That's probably supposed to be wrong parameters.

Which specific burning programs ?

Does it do that for both CDs and DVDs or just one of the two ?
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NOTE that if you install more than one burning program that did not come with Windows or a higher version of Windows Media Player, they often have a resident module that runs all the time and the resident modules of different burning programs can clash with each other and cause problems. Install one at a time, or disable the resident modules of all but one from running at a time.
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" Now it shows it as a DVD-RAM; however when I put a blank DVD ( either + or -) it changes to a CD-ROM. "

That's a no brainer.

When there is no disk in the drive, the empty drive has a label assigned to it by Windows - it can be at least three different labels for a combo CD / DVD burner depending on where you look in Windows.

When the optical drive has a disk in, the label for the drive letter changes to that of one assigned to THE DISK THAT'S IN THE DRIVE.
If the disk in the drive has data on it, and if the disk has been assigned a volume label, then that volume label is shown.
If the disk is a burnable blank disk, a generic Windows label is assigned to it.
E.g. when I insert a blank DVD-R disk, the label changes to CD Drive in My Computer in XP, there is a tiny black label on the icon's disk image that shows DVD-R in white letters on it.



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#11
February 19, 2011 at 15:56:33
You wrote:That's probably supposed to be wrong parameters.
Which specific burning programs ?
Does it do that for both CDs and DVDs or just one of the two ?

I use Roxio's Easy CD & DVD Creator 6 which has DVD Builder in it and I have used something Free Video to DVD. The combo CD/DVD burner does work great in reading CD and DVD data and writing CD and DVD data and I can play DVD movies. The burner just will not make a video DVD.

You Wrote: E.g. when I insert a blank DVD-R disk, the label changes to CD Drive in My Computer in XP, there is a tiny black label on the icon's disk image that shows DVD-R in white letters on it.

I guess I understand that. but when windows shows as a DVD-RAM (in My Computer) when nothing is in that drive. However when I put a blank DVD in it windows than changes that drive to a CD-Drive. There is nothing any black label or any thing but CD-Drive. With the blank DVD in the burner and I click on it Windows come back with Incorrect Function to see if it would chane it to anything that saide DVD. That is why I think this DVD burner can not make a video dvd.

I guess you have found out that I am a poor speller. I to am a Vergo as well and my degree is in electronics and tought college night courses in RTF the teck side in Radio Broadcasting Operations (AM and FM transmitters). Durring the day at collage I was a supervisor for the Audiovisual Department. To earn money durring college I build 50 Watt liener RF amps. for the CB (11 meters) people out of tubes from old TV's. Because of your instruction, they laed my to think you were a teck or a instructor. I started in the world of electronics when I was around 10 or 12. Basl then, people through there old radios and TV's in the garbage and I would go around on garbage day and pick them up cand carry them home for parts. We could not afford radios or TV's so I fixed them and had a radio and TV.

Thank you.


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#12
February 20, 2011 at 10:23:47
"I guess you have found out that I am a poor speller."

I'm a fairly good speller but a poor typist and I make a lot of typos.

This web site has a basic automatic spell checker, similar to the ones often present in many email programs.
When it suspects you have mis-spelled a word, when your cursor is not on a word, or not at the end of the word, it makes a red underline appear under the word, when you're typing in the post, or when you Edit an existing post.
If you RIGHT click on the underlined word, a list pops up with possible correct spellings, you can click on one of them to place the word where the mis-spelled word on the page was.

You can Edit any of your own posts, for a limited time, except for the first one if you started the Topic and at least one response post has appeared, by clicking on the icon that looks like a notepad at the top of each of your posts.

I am frequently using both the spell checker's suggested spellings (the mis-spelling is usually due to my typos) and Edit to make corrections to my posts.
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"I use Roxio's Easy CD & DVD Creator 6 which has DVD Builder in it and I have used something Free Video to DVD. "

Can you determine the specific name for "something Free Video to DVD" ?

As I said above,,,,

"NOTE that if you install more than one burning program that did not come with Windows or a higher version of Windows Media Player, they often have a resident module that runs all the time and the resident modules of different burning programs can clash with each other and cause problems. Install one at a time, or disable the resident modules of all but one from running at a time."

I know for sure that Roxio EMC software has at least one resident module that runs all the time.
A disabled friend of mine insisted that I install it for her on her computers, and I have installed several versions of EMC for her.
I also know thru experience with her systems that Roxio software has a lot more bugs in it than most burning software, and it can be a pain in the axx to get rid of an existing EMC installation and start over again if something goes wrong with it, because sometimes it will NOT un-install normally when something goes wrong.
When it DOES un-install using it's own un-install program, there are a LOT of registry entries for it left behind in the Registry.

If you DO have that "clash" problem, if you un-install "something Free Video to DVD" in Control Panel -Add or Remove Programs,you may then be able to make video disks with Roxio fine.

If that doesn't help, you could try un-installing Roxio EMC and installing it again, but I know from experience that sometimes that doesn't help and the only way you can get it to install properly is to install Windows from scratch to wipe out the left behind Roxio registry settings, then install Roxio EMC,
OR, you could try using System Restore to load a restore point that was made BEFORE Roxio EMC was installed the first time, then install Roxio EMC.
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NOTE that it is a VERY good idea to disable any resident modules of any anti-malware software you have installed BEFORE you install software yourself, and it's probably VERY important that you do that before you install any Roxio software !

See response 3 regarding disabling resident modules of anti-malware software:
http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

See response 14 in that if you have Panda Global Protection
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"However when I put a blank DVD in it windows than changes that drive to a CD-Drive. There is nothing any black label or any thing but CD-Drive."

What I said was....

"E.g. when I insert a blank DVD-R disk, the label changes to CD Drive in My Computer in XP, there is a tiny black label on the icon's disk image that shows DVD-R in white letters on it."

As in.....
- when I insert the blank DVD-R while XP is running, a small window pops up.
If I select Open writable CD folder using Windows Explorer, or if I select Take no Action, this has happened when I look in My Computer....

- the text label for the drive changes to CD Drive
- the icon for the drive has an image of a disk - the tiny black label is a black bar on top of that disk image with DVD-R in it in white lettering.

That black bar is so small it's easy to miss seeing it.

"With the blank DVD in the burner and I click on it Windows come back with Incorrect Function to see if it would chane it to anything that saide DVD. That is why I think this DVD burner can not make a video dvd."

"The combo CD/DVD burner does work great in reading CD and DVD data and writing CD and DVD data and I can play DVD movies."

In that case there is probably absolutely nothing wrong with the drive or it's connection to the computer or the mode it's running in in Windows or the way is being detected by Windows itself.

It's also quite likely that when you get that message when you click on it you can't burn anything with that drive.

There's no such thing as a drive that can burn data DVDs but not burn video DVDs -a video DVD is merely another type of data DVD.

Your problem is probably a software problem.

See the above info in this post about un-installing the other burning program or un-installing and re-installing Roxio EMC.


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#13
February 20, 2011 at 18:58:06
I will need to re-read what you wrote a few more time. But thank you. Oh, that something free video to dvd is the program named "Free Videos to DVD".

The site is "www.Koyotesoft.com". Check out the site, you might see something you like. There are free progrems that are simple and bear bone but they work.

Again, Thank You.


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