No upgrade since '08, do not want to upgrade until '28. Adv?

March 6, 2018 at 14:48:06
Specs: Windows 7
Hi,

I've been getting 40-50 fps recently out of most AAA titles on this PC I built in 2008.

Now I'm looking to upgrade as I want to enable 3D projector based 1:1 lifesize wall gaming and my PC can't keep up with the 3D system I bought.

I have been out of the hardware loop since '08.

Can anyone recommend a system (and CPU stepping) that I will (hopefully) not need to update until 2028?

This is my system:

(It was state of the art in 2008, but note it was not the ludicrously priced Extreme Edition variants, etc. It was just a common sense High End, extremely overclockable setup.)

CPU: QX9650 @ 3.0 ghz (overclocked to 4.07ghz @ 1.28v for 10 years. Stepping E0 so more stable overclock)

CPU Fan: ASUS Silent Knight II

MB: ASUS Striker II NSE @ 1805 FSB (Note, not the expensive Extreme Edition)

RAM: Corsair XMS3 DHX DDR3 @ 1650mhz

HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

GPU: ASUS GTX 670 TOP CUII (upgraded in '12, will replace with a GTX 1070 TOP CUII)

POWER: Coolermaster 600W


So as you can see it was overclockable, top of the line (at least it lasted me for 10 years) BUT it was not the most expensive of what you could buy in '08. I.e. It was not the expensive Extreme Edition or the mega high wattage hot running versions.

What similar (air cooled) setup would members buy today that they could expect them to last for around another 10 years?

Budget is around $1200 for just the MB, CPU, RAM and SSD, that's ideally including a GTX 1070, but I could use the 670 Top CUII for a little while if I must. No case or peripherals needed. Sweet overclockability would be nice. Ideally I'd like to keep to these brands as they've worked without a hitch for 10 years, but I'm open to other reliable brands.

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#1
March 6, 2018 at 15:30:55
No one can guarantee what will be viable 10 years from now. All we can do is tell you what hardware is currently considered the best. And that's easy enough to find by doing some searching. It appears you're an Intel guy so....

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

And I recommend you upgrade the power supply while you're at it.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...


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#2
March 6, 2018 at 21:51:56
i7-8700K
Any good MB w/Z370 chipset if features match your needs (PCIe 16x @16x, PCIe 16X 4x, M2 PCIe 3.0 4x, 4 DDR4 RAM slots, etc.
Go for Samsung PCIe SSD M2 format 240-500GB for OS, programs, games, with large WD Black HD for storage.
16GB (or more) DDR4 3000GHz (or faster) RAM
GTX1070

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#3
March 8, 2018 at 03:08:08
what Fingers ways, & keep in mind that you will probably have to upgrade GPU every 10 years or so(maby even sooner).
also keep in mind that Nvidia is releasing new GPU's within a month or 3

i recommend delidding the 8700k & OCĂ­ng to 5GHz+, or let this site do it for you:
https://siliconlottery.com/collecti...

use this site to compare hardware(used your Q9650 vs i7-8700k):
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...

You will be looking at a pricetagg towards the 2000$

i5-6600K[delid]@4.8GHz/4.5GHz cache@1.385v | 2x4GB Crucial-DDR4-2133@14-14-14-28 1T 2808MHz@1.37v
ASUS Z170K
Samsung 250GB SSD 850 EVO
MSI Armor RX 570 4GB@1380c/2050m BiosMod
VS450

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#4
March 8, 2018 at 20:18:28
hidde: Delidding may be fine for you but it is not for everyone. Neither is running the max OC they can because they can. I know that for you there are advantages but these also come with more awareness of their equipment, regular monitoring of temps and voltage, and overall have higher component quality requirements. Then there is the fact that you are taking an expensive piece of precision equipment and modifying it so that there is no longer a warranty on it. Again, may be good for you, but not everyone. For most gamers, a top or near top quality CPU and GPU running a modest overclock (for many not even that) is just perfect. There is more margin for error and sudden extreme stress and the likelihood that it will last more years is significantly greater.

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#5
March 9, 2018 at 03:45:10
O well, even keeping it stock will make you reach 4.7 GHz @ 1.25v
making sure it does not bottleneck an gtx 1080(ti)/vega 56/64
coffee-lake just strait up clocks higher than sandy,ivy,haswell,broadwell,skylake and kaby-lake due to architecture changes & better thermal paste

keep in mind you probably want a G-sync monitor for Nvidia video cards
& a Free-Sync monitor for AMD video cards
these build in features will make sure you screen does not tear:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bOKvLmIR_r4/...

Nvidia is releasing new GPU's within a month or 3

i5-6600K[delid]@4.8GHz/4.5GHz cache@1.385v | 2x4GB Crucial-DDR4-2133@14-14-14-28 1T 2808MHz@1.37v
ASUS Z170K
Samsung 250GB SSD 850 EVO
MSI Armor RX 570 4GB@1380c/2050m BiosMod
VS450


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#6
June 18, 2018 at 11:15:22
Holy crap guys, I found the upgrade

i8700K

Asus Apex

whos with me?


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#7
June 18, 2018 at 20:47:08
Enjoy the build.
I like Gigabyte but Asus is highly thought of by many.
Wait! That board has the Z270 chipset, for the 8th generation CPU you need the Z370 chipset. Look at these:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...

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#8
June 19, 2018 at 07:34:13
Ok, I've decided on the following.

Does anyone know if I will still be able to use my PSU from 2008 for a few months until I upgrade the GTX670 to a 1080, and if I leave the 8700 on stock OC for now? The PSU is a Coolermaster Silent Pro 600W:

Asus ROG Maximus X Apex
Intel Core i7 8700K
G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4 4266 MHz 16GB (2x 8GB)
WD Black 3D NAND NVME SSD 1TB M.2
Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120R RGB (my case doesn't have space for the double fan 240R version)
Geforce GTX670 (for now)


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#9
June 21, 2018 at 04:54:05
get some decent 3600MHzCL16 ddr4 2x8GB, i can guarantee you wont be able to run that 4266 kit close to 4000MHz without some serious memory overclocking knowledge & a golden sample CPU integrated memory controller.(in other words a waste of money & memory troubleshooting)

edit:
It's rumored that Nvidia is releasing a GTX 1180 in the next 40 days or so.
They released the gtx 1080 in May 2016...

i5-6600K[delid]@4.8GHz/4.4GHz@1.39v LLC=6 | 2x4GB Crucial-DDR4-2133CL15@14-13-13-28 1T 2800MHz@1.37v
MSI Armor RX 570 4GB@1430Mhz core@1.256v/1920MHz BiosModded

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#10
June 21, 2018 at 20:39:41
I agree that the extreme memory speed is probably a waste of money. 3000MHz is probably plenty but if the 3600MGz is close enough in price then that is what I would recommend also. Further, I look for memory with the lower latency numbers within the speed I am choosing because they are better binned chips and likely to take overclocking if you eventually decide to go down that road. In the mean time go with the XMP profiles because they are usually very near the optimal for those stick and make sure that you purchase memory sticks in dual channel packs that are then closely matched and never purchase single packs (even if cheaper) as they will never match each other.
Your power supply if it has been working well should be fine for now but if you save enough on the memory, put it towards the power supply or the graphics card.

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