New video vs Old monitor

Built it / Smilodon
January 21, 2009 at 05:38:16
Specs: XP - pro, Core2 duo/3gig
I have an old monitor, about 10 years. It's a Compaq
V700 monitor. Trying to use it on a new system which has
a PCIE dual graphics card. A GeForce 9400gt with a VGA,
DVI, and S-video ports.

The question is would I have any video issues with this
combination??

Kye


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#1
January 21, 2009 at 06:10:03
It may not work at all. I've tried old monitors with new systems and sometimes the screen stayed black. That's when I put the monitor on the curb for sanitation.

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#2
January 21, 2009 at 06:18:06
See the problem I'm having is when the monitor is on
standby mode, I turn on the new system, the monitor will
come out of standby for three seconds then go back into
standby mode.

Is that common??

Kye


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#3
January 21, 2009 at 07:08:05
Just make sure to keep it within the supported settings. I usually run a 17" at 1024 x 768 @ 75Hz

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...


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#4
January 21, 2009 at 10:18:07

Well, The graphics card specs are:

Max Resolution is 2048 x 1536 @ 85Hz.

Would these specs conflicted with the monitors specs.?

Unfortunately I'm not really clear on this part of computing.

Kye


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#5
January 21, 2009 at 11:12:32
Boot up in safe mode and see if it works. If it does, set the resolution and refresh to low numbers. The you can then experiment with higher resolutions, but keep the refresh at the lowest setting.

For what it's worth to XP users: When you click on the 'Command Prompt' you are just causing the 'Command prompt' to be displayed. This prompt gives you access to the 'NT Virtual DOS Manager'.


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#6
January 21, 2009 at 12:00:18
It should work. I still keep a 14-year-old Trinitron as a "test tube". It does 1600x1200 fine with the latest videocards.

How new is this computer? So new that this is your second or third time trying to boot it up? Have you tested it with another monitor? To me, it sounds like the new system isn't putting out a video signal at all. Many CRT monitors will light up for a few seconds when the tower is first turned on, even if it doesn't ouput a video signal. The initial jolt is enough to trick the monitor.

Homebuilt projector:
Samsung 1080p panel
Pixelworks controller
2 HDMI, 2 Component, 1 VGA
Homebuilt enclosure
120" 16:9 screen
Connected to: HTPC w/ BD, satellite receiver, XB360.


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#7
January 21, 2009 at 12:05:03
1. A video card will support one range of settings.

2. A monitor will support one range of settings.

3. The lowest maximum setting of either the card or monitor will be your maximum setting for that particular combination.

In other words, if you monitor will only do 1024x768@32bit@75Hz, that's all that combination will do.

Skip


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#8
January 21, 2009 at 12:14:28

Well, since this is a new system, did not have a chance to
load any software. I need to have some sort of display to
perform installs or changes.

What happens is the monitor does not display anything,
system is turned on the monitor come out of standby stays
on long enough to display "DPMS Going to sleep". Then it
goes back into standby mode.

Kye


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#9
January 21, 2009 at 12:18:00
Some reason you didn't tell us this 7 hours ago?

Hang on...

Skip


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#10
January 21, 2009 at 12:32:27
He did tell us in response # 2. He's not getting a POST screen, which is why I never blamed his Windows settings.

Homebuilt projector:
Samsung 1080p panel
Pixelworks controller
2 HDMI, 2 Component, 1 VGA
Homebuilt enclosure
120" 16:9 screen
Connected to: HTPC w/ BD, satellite receiver, XB360.


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#11
January 21, 2009 at 12:37:24
That monitor should have a "power saving" setting on the front panel controls. If that setting is on, turn it off.

Skip


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#12
January 21, 2009 at 12:40:55
Oops! I obviously missed that jack. I'll buy him lunch and a beer someday.

Skip


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#13
January 21, 2009 at 12:41:37
Yup, Jackbomb is correct, kyetech. You have a problem with your PC, not the monitor.

Remove the motherboard and do a bench test.
How to bench test your system:
http://www.techsupportforum.com/har...

FWIW to XP users: When you click on the 'Command Prompt' you are just causing the 'Command prompt' to be displayed. This prompt gives you access to NTVDM.EXE, the 'NT Virtual DOS Manager'.


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#14
January 21, 2009 at 18:43:35

Ok! Jackbomb & aegis1

Here is the deal, I have been working on this problem for
some time now. I'll try to give the short story.

Yes I did perform a Bench test first. Never got the MoBo in
the case.

Specs:

PSU = Raid max 500w
MoBo = ESC Elitegroup Nforce-570slit-A
Graphics = GeForce 9400GT (PCIE)
Processor = Intel core2 duo E4300
Monitor = Compaq V700
Mem = 1 Gig (Crucial) DDR2 PC2 5300

Done the Bench test with these items and as Jackbomb
mentioned the turning on of the system gives the CRT
enough jolt to trick the monitor for a couple or seconds
then powers down.

Thouhgt it was the graphics card:

I have a Gateway PC(503GR) Intel Pent 4. Used the one
PCIE slot in this unit to test the Graphics card. It worked
fine with he GateWay.

Maybe it's the Processor:

Took the "working" pent 4 Processor out of the GateWay &
into the ECS MoBo(which does support Pent 4), Same thing
Happen, CRT monitor powers up-3 secs- powers down.

Gotta be the MoBo:

Now have an Asus P5QL MoBo, Supports Intel Core2, and
DDR2 Mem. Tried the bench test and guess what?, same
thing. CRT monitor powers up, then powers down.

Hope this clarifies my dilemma. If in any of this you guys
see where I went wrong...do tell.

Thanks guys

Kye


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#15
January 21, 2009 at 20:03:29
If I read your post correctly, you have tried two motherboards and two CPUs. Remove the RAM and see if you get error beeps. If you get beeps, that means the motherboard is working.

If you get no beeps, have you removed any jumper that has disabled the bios?

Try a different power supply.

FWIW to XP users: When you click on the 'Command Prompt' you are just causing the 'Command prompt' to be displayed. This prompt gives you access to NTVDM.EXE, the 'NT Virtual DOS Manager'.


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#16
January 22, 2009 at 08:11:37

On the first MoBo(ECS) there's a jumper for clearing the
cmos, but it set in the normal position. Did try the no mem
beep test and did not any beeps. Thats when decided that
the mobo(ASUS) was bad and purchased the other.

Took another working PSU out of a unit, and the same.

I am now trying the mem beep test on the asus.

Kye


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#17
January 22, 2009 at 08:42:26

I just tried a bench test on the ASUS MoBo, with a different
PSU and no mem. No beeps and no video. The Jumper
settings were set to normal.

If I forgot to mention before, the only thing that displays
long enough to see on the CRT monitor is "DPMS Going to
sleep"

Kye


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#18
January 22, 2009 at 09:28:39
The only thing needed to get beeps is a working power supply, motherboard/CPU and speaker.

When you power on, the motherboard checks all the voltages from the PSU. If any are not within tolerance, it puts the PSU back to sleep.
If the voltages are ok, the PSU is allowed to stay up to full power. The bios is started and runs some checks on the motherboard circuits. If any problems are detected, a beep code is output to indicate the problem area. If everything checks out ok, the bios outputs a single 'Power On Self Test' beep. If no beep(s) at all are output, that means the motherboard/CPU is not operating.

You should get error beeps for the missing RAM.

A defective device that is connected to the motherboard can keep it from working. So do not connect any drives, pull all cards, and you might even disconnect the monitor, although it shouldn't affect the motherboard.

FWIW to XP users: When you click on the 'Command Prompt' you are just causing the 'Command prompt' to be displayed. This prompt gives you access to NTVDM.EXE, the 'NT Virtual DOS Manager'.


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#19
January 22, 2009 at 10:22:36

Well, I tried your suggestions oddly enough neither of the
mobo's gave off any beeps. (Although I believe the ASUS
does not have an on board spkr) this is with two different
boards and two different PSU's.

No mem, no graphics card, no drives.

What does this mean, my brain is turning into mush.

Kye


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#20
January 22, 2009 at 11:09:18
1. Two bad power supplies?
2. Two bad motherboards?
3. Two bad CPUs (I doubt it)?

Power up and check the voltages on the motherboard power connector to see if they are all there.

Here is a pinout:
http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php...

Pin 14 should be ground (earth) to allow the power supply to be up at full power. The motherboard has to supply this.

FWIW to XP users: When you click on the 'Command Prompt' you are just causing the 'Command prompt' to be displayed. This prompt gives you access to NTVDM.EXE, the 'NT Virtual DOS Manager'.


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#21
January 22, 2009 at 19:51:13

Well, didn't say that PSU's or CPU's were bad just that they were giving me
the same result.

Both of the PSU's are working units, and at least one of the CPU's(that
came out of the Gateway system) is still working.

Possibly the mobo's or one the CPU's, moreover the Monitor, Because I've
had the chance to Change the CPU, Change the MoBo, Change the PSU,
and Change the Graphics card. Get the same result with all scenarios.

But have not been able to change the CRT monitor.

Kye


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#22
January 23, 2009 at 09:09:16
"But have not been able to change the CRT monitor."

That's the one item that is common to all the hardware you've been fiddling with. Did you try the power saving settings I asked about in Response 11?

Skip


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#23
January 23, 2009 at 10:43:43

Yes I did try,. but it's not possible for me to get to those
controls when the monitor only stays on a few seconds after
the system is turned on.

I'm thinking compatibility issues, what do you think.

Kye


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#24
January 23, 2009 at 10:51:44
I think it's time to beg, borrow, steal, or buy another monitor to try.

You gotta eliminate the Compaq V700 as the problem.

Skip


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#25
January 23, 2009 at 21:09:23
Well Skipcox,

Gotta put this one in my notes.

Bought an Acer 20' flat sceen monitor that supports both
VGA & DVI inputs. Did my bench test and guess what???

I GOT VIDEO!!! a sigh of relief, but some broke pockets, I
guess it was worth it.

But totally thanks to you guys for hanging in there with
me. Without the suggestions and responses you gave, I
probably would have tossed everything out the window..
without opening it.

Thanks Again for the help, now I can move on with life.

Kye


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