new motherboard old hard drive

July 25, 2010 at 09:41:00
Specs: window 98 se
I have pentium 3 running with os 98 se and planning to upgrade the hardware (motherboard & cpu) but I would like to keep old hard drive. is it possible to get it works? cloning is possible? if it does work. which motherboard would be the best? Thanks for your help

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July 25, 2010 at 12:08:23
Any motherboard that supports an IDE Hard Drive will work, but with hard drives so cheap why would you want to keep it. When you update the motherboard and cpu you will also get a good power supply that supports SATA.

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July 25, 2010 at 14:04:04
"When you update the motherboard and cpu you will also get a good power supply that supports SATA."
As in, it has SATA power connectors, if you want to be able to plug in a SATA drive eventually using a connector already attached to the power supply.

You probably need a power supply with at least a minimum 300 watt capacity or greater that has a main connector that is 24 "pin". If your present PS has a 300 watt or greater capacity but only a 20 "pin" main connector, you can get 20 to 24 "pin" wiring adapters and plug that into your older PS, however, you may need to upgrade the PS for other reasons.

E.g. some video cards require an extra power connection from the power supply, and your PS may not have that.

Your power supply must have at least the minimum capacity required to support a system with the graphics card you are using installed, or the max graphics card you might install in the future.
(Onboard video - video built into the mboard - IS NOT A CARD ! )
If that info is not in the ad for the video card, you can go to the video card maker's web site and look up the specs for the model - often under system requirements - the minimum PS wattage, and, more important, the minimum amperage the PS must supply at 12v is stated. If you don't find that, any card with the same video chipset including any letters after the model number has very similar minimum PS requirements. Some power supplies have two or more +12v ratings - in that case, add those ratings to determine the total +12v current capacity.

If you're a gamer...
In most if not all cases, the max capacity rating of the PS is an intermittent rating. It's recommended that you do not load your PS to any more that 80% of that rating if you are going to be using something that puts a constant load on it, such as playing a recent game for hours on end. In that case, you multiply the min capacity stated for the system with the particular video chipset on the card by 1.25 to find the min. capacity of the PS you should get.

You can usually replace your PS with any decent standard sized standard ATX PS with the same capacity or greater.

Standard (PS/2) power supply size - 86mm high, 150mm wide, 140mm deep, or 3 3/8" h x 5 7/8" w x 5 1/2" d , or very close to that, though the depth can be more or less for some PSs.

Don't buy an el-cheapo PS.
See response 3 in this:

Recent mboards often do not support Windows operating systems previous to 2000 - no drivers for older operating systems are available for at least some of the hardware on the mboard (e.g. the main chipset). Go to the mboard maker's web site and take a look at the info for the mboard model - if older operating systems are not supported, there is usually an obvious note about that.

Also, recent video cards, possibly other cards, you install in a slot on a new mboard, possibly other devices, may not support being used in Windows operating systems previous to 2000.

Usually when you have a hard drive that has already had Win 98SE installed on it when it was connected to one mboard, and then you boot from it when it's connected to a different mboard, Windows will automatically load at least the basic support for the changed mboard, and eventually the desktop screen will load, then you can load the specific drivers for that changed mboard.

If Win 98SE won't load all the way in that situation, you need to do an "overtop" installation of Windows, if you don't want to lose the data on the C partition.
You need a Full version Win 98SE CD, and a Win 98SE Startup disk floppy.
If you want to keep the present data that's on C, you can't boot from the full version Win 98SE CD, because the only option is to delete the existing partition(s) and install Windows from scratch.
With the Win 98SE CD in a drive, you boot from the Startup floppy disk, load support for CD drives (the default), and install Windows in the SAME folder it is presently in, which is usually C:\Windows. If you install Windows in the SAME folder, all of the previous personal and installed programs data and settings on the C partition that you have added will be retained, and if there is nothing wrong with certain essential data, you will not need to provide the Product Key.

If you don't have a Win 98SE Startup floppy disk,

- you could make one BEFORE you install the hard drive on the new mboard, in Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs - Startup Disk tab.
You need the Windows 98SE CD to be in a drive when you do that.
- or you could download a file or files to make one from the web - e.g. from www. .

NOTE that Fdisk on the Startup disk is copied from the CD, and it has bugs. There is an updated version of Fdisk available if you need to support using Fdisk on a drive or drive partition larger than 64gb. If you already have the updated version on the present 98SE installation, copy that to the Startup disk floppy. If you don't, the updated version is available on the web.
In the updated version of Fdisk's Properties, it's size is 64,460 bytes , and it's original date is 5/18/00 (depending on where you get it from the date may be something else - the right one is 64,460 bytes for 98SE)

Despite the fact new systems often do not have a floppy drive, almost all new mboards still have a floppy data header and will support a floppy drive when one is connected to that.

After Windows 98SE gets to the desktop screen the first time, or after Setup is finished if you had to load Windows "overtop" or after you installed Windows from scratch, you must load the drivers for the mboard, particularly the main chipset drivers, in order for Windows to have the proper drivers for and information about your mboard hardware, including it's AGP or PCI-E, ACPI, USB 2.0 if it has it, and hard drive controller support. If you have a generic system and have the CD that came with the mboard, all the necessary drivers are on it. If you load drivers from the web, brand name system builders and mboard makers often DO NOT have the main chipset drivers listed in the downloads for your model - in that case you must go to the maker of the main chipset's web site, get the drivers, and load them.

Load the main chipset drivers first.

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July 25, 2010 at 14:23:56
You can keep your existing 98 installation with the new motherboard. However, you'll want a motherboard that has 98 support. It's doubtful you'll find any newer boards with that support.

And you'll need to do a few things to get 98 set up properly with the new motherboard. Check the link in my # 3 here and the subsequent discussion:

That poster was talking about ME but 98 is the same way.

If your 98 is first edition, or the new setup has a fast cpu or a bunch of ram, check my # 1 here:

Now that's what I call a sticky situation

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