New build regular crashes, freezes

Abit / Aw8-max
February 12, 2009 at 07:38:35
Specs: Windows XP, intel p4 3.6 - 1gb 667 ram
Hi, hope someone can help as i cannot do anymore, have an evil new build that doesnt like me!

so, i put a new build together and it crashes within minutes, sometimes i can get into safemode othertimes i cant.

tried uninstalling various drivers updates ect, ends up the same! Crash after CRASH ect

well one thing i found was weird was i could not install xp pro onto the 750 sata drive, tried 500gb sata I and 250 sata I, (I HAD INSTALLED SATA DRIVERS BEFORE HAND) had to connect little 80gb ide drive and managed to get xp on it after several crashes, so i imaged the drive and installed it on fresh 750gb sata II drive, thought id done it but NOPE, crash, crash, freeze, crash...

change psu's twice, ran diagnostics software, cpu, ram, mb, psu all ok, reapplied silver cpu paste (thinly) i might add, checked cpu temp and its on about 47'o if i remember rightly, no BSOD, its like the computer is suddenly turned off.
was running temp monitor software at the time and crashed as i was watching cpu temp at 47, 48'o

its a tough one, so dont think ne could solve this.

here are some specs:-

motherboard = abit aw8-max
ram = 1gb 667
cpu = intel p4 cpu 3.6ghz
heatsink = golden orb II
hdd = samsung 750gb sata II
dvd = samsung lightscribe
audio card = came with mb
psu = winpower 550w

thanx in advance for any help


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#1
February 12, 2009 at 09:56:09
Are you SURE your memory is okay?

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#2
February 12, 2009 at 10:34:14
New build? Why the old hardware? What video card do you have?

I wasn't able to get a look at the manual but there have been quite a few BIOS updates over the years. The newest one "Recalibrates CPU temperature" so it's possible that your temp readings are out of whack. Make sure you're running the latest BIOS available & I recommend manually configuring the settings rather than just loading defaults.

http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/moth...

"reapplied silver cpu paste (thinly) i might ad

Thinly? A tiny dab in the center of the CPU is all that's required. See the instructions:

http://www.arcticsilver.com/ins_rou...

Which XP SP do you have? Did you press F6 & load the SATA drivers at the start of the install? Have you tested the RAM using memtest86?


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#3
February 12, 2009 at 10:54:50
tested memory last night, win memtest 86+ and it done 9 tests and afterwards said everything was successful, so...dont know what else to try.

New build? Why the old hardware? What video card do you have?...

been trying to build this for the last 8 months i know what you're thinking, ive changed the motherboard, and psu, and memory and it was the same then, couldnt install xp on the hdd, YES i did install sata drivers by pressing F6, i done it all, built a computer before 3ghz few years ago, went very smooth, but this 2nd build is terrible...i think its the cpu as thats the only part thats the same from the other pieces i sent back, but tested it with software diagnostics and it always say its ok...

the graphics card i got which was just temprary before you say its abit crap i know, is a galaxy geforce 8400 gs ddr2 256mb

last night had a look in direct x and as it was loading pages in it started winching about IACENC.DLL looked it up and its an audio driver but got it replaced with newer one.
running xp pro build 5.1 2600

would love to update the bios, but theres NO-WAY im doing that as it would prob (WOULD) CRASH half way through and render the mb useless...
also in safemode if im in there too long (talk about overstaying my welcome) it crashes...so im not an expert but i think overheating sounds right, i dont know!...puzzled, the cpu is 2nd hand, but software said its OK, is there anyother sureway of knowing if the cpu is ok?

i covered the whole of the cpu with VERY THIN layer of paste just to fill the mscopic holes in, so i guess thats ok.
was told to do it that way from this site ages ago, so dont hammer me for it ok.

the other memory i had was ddr2 800 memory 4ghz of it and used it on my other board and all the symptoms were the same, so when i got this board had to get 667 mem as thats what it says in the manual and crashes just the same, thats why i think its the cpu.

anyway will check this later, and thanx for your replies


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#4
February 12, 2009 at 18:06:53
"been trying to build this for the last 8 months i know what you're thinking"

I'm thinking that it's 2009 & you said this is a "new build", but you're using a board that's 4 yrs old & a P4. That's hardly "new". BTW, the proper RAM for an 800MHZ FSB P4 is DDR2-533 (or faster RAM underclocked to DDR2-533 speed).

"i covered the whole of the cpu with VERY THIN layer of paste just to fill the mscopic holes in, so i guess thats ok.
was told to do it that way from this site ages ago, so dont hammer me for it ok"

Well, you're right about one thing, that's the way it was done "ages ago". That's not how it's done for a P4. You do NOT spread it all over the CPU. You put a tiny dab, less than the size of a grain of rice, in the center of the CPU...that's it. You don't spread it around, you just leave the dab & lock down the heatsink. I linked to the Acrtic Silver instructions for a reason. I knew as soon as I saw the word "layer" that you did it wrong. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!

"so im not an expert but i think overheating sounds right"

All you gotta do is look at the temperature reading in the BIOS. Check the PC Health menu. P4's tend to run hot so I 'd expect it to idle in the mid/upper 40's...if it's significantly higher than that, pull the heatsink. You've gotta do it anyway because you applied the paste wrong. And as I said in my other response, you should manually configure the BIOS settings. BIOS defaults are NEVER 100% correct. I'll try the ABIT site again & see if I can get a look at the manual.

EDIT: no luck downloading the manual. The ABIT site sucks. I suggest you download whatever you can ASAP. Get that BIOS even if you don't intend on using it right away. There's no telling how long the files will be available now that Abit has gone belly up.

ABIT to go OUT OF BUSINESS Dec 31st 2008

abit exits mainboard market - confirmed


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