New Asus Desktop seems slow...

December 4, 2016 at 18:14:15
Specs: Windows 7, i7 6700/12 GB RAM
I just bought this Asus M32CD-B09 desktop PC. Its a full tower PC. Has the i7 6700 processor. 12 GB of RAM. Immediately after buying it, I upgraded the hard drive from the SSHD to an SSD 1 TB HD. I also downloaded the Windows 10 x64 iso and reinstalled it to get rid of all the fluff that comes with a PC so it's running a cleaner image. It still just feels like it's laggy and slower than the laptop Lenovo Y70 PC I just sold. Spec wise, this PC should fly. One thing it seems like I notice a lot of the slowness in the network. I'm running over 802.11 AC same as the laptop. I'm thinking about buying a 100 foot cable and wiring it in because the modem is just on the other side of the room. But my laptop worked way better wirelessly. But gaming is slow. I don't know if buying a nice video card would make that a lot better. But I'm not a big gamer. Just browsing the web and very boring stuff but I want to click things and it to be very responsive. I've been watching the resources and nothing is maxing out. The performance is just not quite there. Any ideas what I can do to speed it up?

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#1
December 4, 2016 at 18:26:16
Let me have a look at these logs for clues.

Please download Farbar Recovery Scan Tool and save it to your Desktop. If your default download location is not the Desktop, drag it out of it's location onto the Desktop.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/dow...
If we have to run Farbar more than once, refer this SS.
http://i.imgur.com/yUxNw0j.gif
Note: You need to run the version compatible with your system. If you are not sure which version applies to your system download both of them and try to run them. Only one of them will run on your system, that will be the right version.
Double-click to run it. When the tool opens click Yes to disclaimer.
Press Scan button.
It will make a log (FRST.txt) on the Desktop.
The first time the tool is run, it makes also another log (Addition.txt)
The logs are large, upload them using File Dropper ( No account/registration needed ) or upload to a site of your choosing. Give us the links please.
http://www.filedropper.com/


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#2
December 4, 2016 at 18:50:27
Here are the files.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/41h8rlfqm...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/97d3jxle0...

I also created a belarc report. Here's that...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h1iuwq42x...

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#3
December 4, 2016 at 19:02:46
Ok, got them, they will save a lot of questions as they paint a very good picture.

My first look will take about 1/2 hour.

I'm here.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclo...


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#4
December 4, 2016 at 19:24:09
Next step. Make sure you run it from the Desktop

Please download ZHPcleaner to your Desktop. If your default download location is not the Desktop, drag it out of it's location onto the Desktop.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivi...
http://www.nicolascoolman.fr/?wpdmd...
Double click on ZHPCleaner to run the tool.
If you are using Windows Vista, 7, or 8; instead of double-clicking, right-mouse click ZHPCleaner and select "Run as Administrator".
Please click > J'accepte/IAgree
Then press ''Repair'' button.
Browsers will automatically shut down.
A logfile will automatically open after the scan has finished.
Please Copy & Paste the contents of that logfile with your next reply.

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#5
December 4, 2016 at 19:30:07
I'm kind of wondering if I just figured it out. Well, partially a Band-Aid to the situation. First I went into system properties --> advanced --> performance and changed it from let the system choose to best performance.

Then after that, I noticed it still seemed slow in Firefox. So, I uninstalled Firefox and set IE as my default. So far the system seems to be very responsive. But it's still only about 30 minutes of using the system to see if it's up to par. An i7 6th gen processor should be screaming fast.

Oh, and I just ordered a long CAT5 cable so I can switch my PC from wireless to wired to the router to get max speed to the router.

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#6
December 4, 2016 at 19:34:48
"First I went into system properties --> advanced --> performance and changed it from let the system choose to best performance"
+1

I would still run ZHP.


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#7
December 4, 2016 at 19:44:04
I tried downloading zhp and it says it needs to be updated. When I click ok to update, it brings me to a page that's not written in English so I have no clue what to click to download the update.

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#8
December 4, 2016 at 19:51:03
Just close the page, you would have got a message in the bottom right hand corner of your screen, saying that it is being updated. In other words it is now updated.

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#9
December 4, 2016 at 20:08:34
Whatever reason, that doesn't work for me. I click the update button and it opens IE. As soon as I click the button, it appears zhp closes. It hasn't even installed yet because it's forcing me to update before it installs. But it won't install because its out of date and wants me to download it from a page that I can't read and I'm not going to just click links and download and install whatever because I can't read it.

This thread is getting on a tangent. I'm sure there are other tools than zhp to figure this out.


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#10
December 4, 2016 at 20:12:05
These error's need addressing, probably contributing to the ZHP problem.

Error: (12/04/2016 07:52:06 PM) (Source: bowser) (EventID: 8003) (User: )
Description: The master browser has received a server announcement from the computer BACKUP-4391DB
that believes that it is the master browser for the domain on transport NetBT_Tcpip_{829F0236-FB80-415B-8BDD-EEBE98C4A53A}.
The master browser is stopping or an election is being forced.

Error: (12/04/2016 07:51:24 PM) (Source: NetBT) (EventID: 4319) (User: )
Description: A duplicate name has been detected on the TCP network. The IP address of
the computer that sent the message is in the data. Use nbtstat -n in a
command window to see which name is in the Conflict state.


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#11
December 4, 2016 at 20:57:26
John: Does that mean he has two machines on the same IP address? If so, releasing the IP address or restarting the machine fix this?
Dorlow: A Cat5 cable is best for performance so that will be a plus. With the internet being very graphic these days, a video card cannot hurt and may help. I also noticed that I had trouble in browsing on a very fast computer and I finally traced it to Flash. I found that many web sites have newer ads that are very heavy with Flash content and they are taking advantage of certain features of it that tends to bog down your browser/system. My answer was to set Firefox to make Flash "Ask before activating" so I am not bothered by these ads and at most I get a bar on top asking me if I want to continue blocking it or allowing it. If I ignore it, it does not effect the browsing so I don't bother answering it.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#12
December 4, 2016 at 21:43:27
Don't know what is going on there Fingers, will have to wait on feedback from dorlow.

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#13
December 4, 2016 at 22:42:55
Not the same IP. NETBIOS over TCP provides name service for each computer in the network running NetBT.

Instead of using a long CAT5 cable get a CAT6 (screened) LAN cable. It will keep the LAN at max speed.
Wi-Fi works on HALF-duplex. You will see improvement with wired LAN. If you are using the on-board Video module, performance may suffer with high resolution graphics/videos. Get a video card that matches your expectations.


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#14
December 5, 2016 at 03:37:25
BACKUP-4391DB isn't a PC. It's a NAS device. But it doesn't say it's a duplicate IP, but a duplicate name. And I'm not sure how it would be a duplicate name. I have only one of those. But, part of the reason why I bought a desktop is because I want to remove those NAS devices sitting on my bedroom dresser and put the drives internal in the desktop. One of the NAS devices will go in the desktop which stores all my data in raw format. The second drive, I will hook external via USB which is for backup. I ordered SATA cables and just waiting. So, in a few weeks, BACKUP-4391DB will not exist on my network anymore as a network device.

Also the cable I ordered is CAT5e, not just CAT5.

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#15
December 5, 2016 at 10:13:56
One odd question I have... I haven't really stayed up on my hardware. (Partially why I was hesitant to build a computer. I don't really know the latest and greatest hardware. Figured I had a safer bet at getting a speedy machine buying it prebuilt than myself doing it.) But if you look at the Belarc report, it says my Bus Clock speed is 100 MHz. Is that right? I thought the motherboard bus speeds have gotten way faster these days. So my bus going to the CPU is 100 MHz and the clock multiplier is like 30x? Or am I way off? I thought the CPU bus went straight to memory so the memory bus speed is usually like a gig or so, so the CPU bus should match that same speed. But I am rusty at my hardware...

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#16
December 6, 2016 at 01:27:32
In a 64bit structure data transferred over a 100MHz bus results in a transfer speed of 8 bytes x 100 = 800 MHz + some more multipliers can be added. Don't be fooled by the 100MHz bus speed

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#17
December 10, 2016 at 08:45:09
I did a quick search of reviews of that particular ASUS. Here are the 3 cons:

- Warranty sealed. If you open the case to modify or expand your system, you’ll void any manufacturer warranty.
- No dedicated graphics card
- Smaller PSU requires upgrade if you want to install dedicated graphics

Regarding graphics, the integrated HD Graphics 530 graphics are considered a step backwards from those integrated in Broadwell CPUs:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

That being said, it's doubtful graphics are your problem. What about BIOS settings? Did you go with defaults & call it a day, or tweak them for best performance? Are there any programs that you installed that may be slowing the system? Why did you install IObit SystemCare? It's supposed to make the system perform better but there are plenty of reports saying it does the opposite. IMO, it's snake oil.

Also, Windows Defender offers minimal protection. There are plenty of other freebies available that are better. BitDefender Free is my personal choice.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/best-...

Did you run the system at all with the original HDD w/ASUS Windows installation or did you immediately swap it out & install your own? Being that you installed a SSD, it wouldn't be an apples-to-apples comparison, but I'm curious how the performance compares with the original.


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#18
December 10, 2016 at 09:11:39
I went into the BIOS and changed the CPU to turbo mode. I turned it on for about 30 minutes using the original HD before swapping for the SSD.

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#19
December 10, 2016 at 12:33:13
Being that the motherboard is based on the H110 chipset, it's not going to be a top notch performer. I don't know what settings are available in the BIOS but I'm guessing they're minimal? If a retail board was used in the build, it should have a reasonable amount of "tweak-abilty" but unfortunately, no overclocking.

https://rog.asus.com/articles/maxim...

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2...


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#20
December 10, 2016 at 13:04:00
I'm not interested in overclocking. I don't think I can overclock my i7 anyways because it's not the unlocked version of the processor. Back in the day, I had I think like an AMD K7 or something like that and I overclocked it. Then the PC started having weird issues and I always assumed it got too hot and caused weird bugs with the PC. Seems like this i7 6700 should be more than fast enough at the default speed.

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#21
December 10, 2016 at 21:36:01
The i7 6700 should be fast enough at stock but the K version which is unlocked would be only a little bit more though you would have to have the Z170 series motherboard to overclock it. If you built it the difference to switch both to overclockable would have added $60.-$100. total, possibly less if shopping carefully.
For gaming you will need a gaming level graphics card and possibly a new power supply. If you had built it, it would have been in your original calculations. Look for a GTX950 or GTX1050 for a minimum and higher if possible. Post the detailed amperage specs from the original power supply and we can advise if you need to upgrade as well, depending on your graphics choice.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#22
December 17, 2016 at 17:24:33
So, getting frustrated with the lag in Windows 10, I keep wondering if Linux would be any faster. I just switch my OS to Ubuntu 16.04. It is faster, but there still is a lag there. Especially in web browsing in Firefox. The browser is a little laggy. It isn't just loading pages but things that only depend on local resources such as opening menus in the browser. It's a brand new install, so there's no corruption or buildup of clutter slowing things down. I have two plugins installed... lastpass and adblocker. I've tried to disable them and didn't help much. This PC is way too powerful to not be able to keep up with a web browser. My PCs 10 years ago with significantly less processing power and slower components didn't have this lag.

Also, I've wired my PC directly to my router using CAT 5e and our Internet is a 60 Mb/s connection. I consistently get close to 60 Mb/s during speed tests.

I shouldn't have to have a 3 GHz CPU overclocked with the best graphics card and amazing specs to open Firefox and browse the web lag free.

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#23
December 18, 2016 at 05:24:20
I use Firefox exclusively at home, Windows 7 (Edge at work, Windows 10), i5-6790K at stock speed, GTX750Ti graphics, SSD, Z97X-UD3H (modern, fast). A few months ago I was suddenly having lagging problems on web pages. Eventually I decided that there was an enormous increase of graphics intensive ads on almost every page. I tried many things but the only thing to help significantly was to set Flash to "Ask before activating" in add-ons. The has brought my computer back up to speed. If you do not have Flash installed, the browser may be using some other program to render the graphics ads so I would recommend installing Flash and then setting as I have it set. Many ads now appear as blank boxes with tiny 'x' in the middle or edge and is not causing any problems.
On a separate note, a GTX950 or GTX1050 is not a massive gaming card, has fairly low power supply draw, but will increase your systems ability to render graphics better, faster, and take some stress (and heat stress) off the CPU.

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