Netgear WPN511

Ecs / Ka3-mvp
March 30, 2010 at 12:15:53
Specs: Win XP , 3.368 GHz / 4095 MB
I have a WPN511 pcmica card and the drivers are correctly installed from Netgear however the only way for it to work after windows loads is to remove and reinsert the card or windows says there is no card inserted so the Netgear drivers or software will not load automatically even though in the MSCONFIG it is part of the startup menu and checked. I tried installing and reinstalling nothing works the card will not be detected automatically when windows starts!?

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#1
March 30, 2010 at 13:20:25
The most common reason for a problem like your is you didn't install the software the right way !

Unless the instructions for installing a device tell you otherwise.......
You DO NOT install drivers for a device while booting into Windows, if the software for the device has not been installed yet - when Windows detects a generic device while booting, you allow it to search for drivers, it doesn't find any, and it wants you to show it the location of the drivers - CANCEL that, continue on to the desktop, and install the software for the device using the proper installation from a CD or the proper installation file that you downloaded from the web.

If you DID install drivers that way, go to Control Panel - Classic View - Add/Remove Programs and Un-install the software you installed, reboot, DO NOT install drivers while booting, and install the software the right way !
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Another common reason is you loaded the wrong version of the drivers / software. PCMCIA cards often have several different revisions or versions of the same model - you must load the software for the right revision or version of the model.
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You are NOT supposed to unplug a PCMCIA card while Windows is running, unless you FIRST click on the Safely Remove Hardware Icon in your taskbar lower right, and STOP accessing the device !


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#2
March 30, 2010 at 13:48:54
Very confused this is exactly what I did? And multiple times with no luck.

Yes it is the correct revision of the software its directly from Netgears website.

And you cannot safely remove something that is not detected to begin with!


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#3
March 30, 2010 at 15:08:57
"And you cannot safely remove something that is not detected to begin with!"

In that case, DO NOT unplug it while the computer is running !

Did you Un-install the software FIRST in Add/Remove Programs before you tried installing it again?

Did you look in Device Manager to see whether there are flagged entries for it that indicate there's a problem?
Sometimes you have to Un-install those entries if they're still there after installing the software again, reboot, to get rid of them.

Did you install the software for it from a CD?
If so, get the proper download from the Netgear site - the version on the CD may have bugs.

Apparently you install the software BEFORE you plug in the card - did you do that, every time?
See Troubleshooting starting page 29
See page 30 regarding Hotfix Q815485
http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wpn...


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#4
March 30, 2010 at 15:54:09
Yes its been uninstalled rebooted even had the registry corrected in between with registry mechanic.

Drivers as I stated came DIRECTLY from netgears website with the EXACT model number.

Device manager is fine no flags recognizes there is a driver installed for it.

Ive tried installing before I insert card and after no luck.

I mean once I pop it in it detects it and then gets right online it just will not do that at bootup, when I boot the driver is actually missing in the DM with a question mark.


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#5
April 1, 2010 at 00:43:35
Here's a video I made from startup with card in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igED...

I even rolled back to the previous driver FROM netgears website with the same start up problem!


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#6
April 1, 2010 at 13:45:36
I looked at your video and I think I've found a good clue.

( A side note - Why does Com1 have a yellow ! mark before and after you have unplugged / plugged in the card ? Have you investigated that ?
If you knew about that and have disabled it in Windows and are not using it, disable it in the bios Setup, and set whatever IRQ it wanted to use - probably 4 - to be available to the PNP devices rather than Legacy, if you can.)

You have a yellow question marked flagged error before you unplug the adapter, that goes away when you plug the adapter back in.

? Other Devices
? PCMCIA MTD-0002

I searched on the web with:
"Other Devices" "PCMCIA MTD-0002"
and
"PCMCIA MTD-0002"
and
"PCMCIA MTD-0002" error

and found it's a common error.
.....

Tim in this thread had the same problem with a Netgear WG511T Wireless Adapter on one specific laptop computer but not on other laptop computers.

See the last post for a possible solution
http://help.lockergnome.com/windows...
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If that doesn't help -

- the operating system may not have the proper PCMCIA slot info/ drivers loaded if you have NOT loaded the laptop main chipset drivers for your laptop.

- apparently this can happen if you have certain bios versions, if certain things are enabled in the bios Setup. E.g. see the Microsoft KB319326 article.

- you could try loading bios defaults in the bios Setup.

- your computer is behaving as if the bios isn't detecting your PCMCIA card properly, but your operating system can if it's unplugged then plugged in. If you can change the setting for the presence of a PNP operating system in the bios, whatever it is set to now, you could try setting it to the alternative. E.g. PNP operating system installed ? No to Yes, or visa versa .


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#7
April 1, 2010 at 15:45:36
Com1- I have no idea I couldn't figure it out, I don't know much about the IRQs but I definitely do not use Com1. I disabled the on-board Lan when I am not using it because I hate the red X in the task bar.

I've already reset bios defaults and I couldn't find my chipset in the system information.


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#8
April 2, 2010 at 08:24:48
"Com1- I have no idea I couldn't figure it out,...."

Double click on the error entry for it in Device Manager - that will either tell you it's disabled or it has some problem.

"I couldn't find my chipset in the system information. "

I'm assuming the subject computer is a laptop, not the one with the ECS mboard you list in the blue bar in your first post (you can get PCMCIA adapters for desktop computers) .

Tell us the model and then we can find the main chipset, and tell you where to get the drivers.

The specific model of a brand name system is shown on a label on the outside of the case somewhere, or it can often be determined by going to the brand name's web site.

For Dell computers, they have a Service Tag number - the specific model can be determined by using that on their site, or can often be determined there automatically by you downloading some software. The Service Tag number should be on a label on the outside of the case, probably on the bottom on a laptop, on the back on a desktop, and is often also shown in the bios Setup.
.......

"See the last post for a possible solution"
http://help.lockergnome.com/windows...

He said....

"I enabled Remove Device Support in Services and plugged in the reader. This time worked."

Go to
Control Panel - Classic View - Administrative Tools - Services
Expand the window, scroll down the list to Remove Device Support, or similar (Removable Device Support ?) , double click on the line.

Set Startup Type to Automatic, click on OK.

Double click on the line again, set Service Status to Start, click on OK.

When you boot after that, in theory, the Netgear WPN511 should be automatically found properly while booting into Windows ??


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#9
April 18, 2010 at 19:01:38
Sorry it took so long.

The entry for Com1 says the device cannot start. Code 10

Chipsets - hp Pavilion ze5300 is the only identification I can get out of it.

All I found in my services was Removable STORAGE

It SHOULD be but every time I reboot I have to reinsert no matter what so I have been putting it in sleep mode


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#10
April 19, 2010 at 10:58:49
" hp Pavilion ze5300 "

Pavilion ze5000 is a model SERIES of notebooks, not necessarily the specific model number of your specific notebook. The specific model number, and the specific product number (p/n), is on the label on the bottom of the laptop.

Apparently your model series has ATI video - RS200M - built into the main chipset, but I haven't found what the main chipset is.

Go here, download CPU-Z, install it, run it.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

It will be listed under All Programs - CPUID - CPU-Z
(the list is not necessarily in alphabetical order - CPUID may be listed farther down the list)

Click on the Mainboard tab.
What is listed beside Chipset ?
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"All I found in my services was Removable STORAGE"

The guy who supplied that info may have quoted the title wrong - it may not be Remove Device Support, or similar (Removable Device Support ?).

Quote anything listed under Services that has Remove or Removable or similar at the beginning of it, if there's more than just that one.

If Removable Storage is the only thing similar listed, make sure that's set to Automatic, and that it's Started. See the last part of Response 8. If it wasn't that way already, set it to that, reboot, to see if the Netgear WPN511 is then automatically found properly while booting into Windows.

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Other things you could try.

Go into the bios Setup.
If there is a setting PNP (Plug n Play) aware OS, or similar, set that to the opposite if what it was - if that is set to Yes, or similar, set it to No, or visa versa, save bios settings.
If there is a setting for PNP (Plug n Play) assign IRQs or similar, if that is set to Setup or Bios, or similar, rather than OS or similar, or visa versa, set that to the opposite setting, save bios settings.


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#11
April 27, 2010 at 00:16:26
xt5366wm is the only other thing on the bottom

cpuz reports the chipset to be an ATI RS200/RS200M Rev.02
and that the SouthBridge is a ALI M1533 says nothing else

"It will be listed under All Programs - CPUID - CPU-Z
(the list is not necessarily in alphabetical order - CPUID may be listed farther down the list)" - Funny

Removable STORAGE is THE ONLY one in there and set to manual for some reason so I enabled automatic and started it. Then restarted the computer and nothing...

Bio's is extremely limited with no plug and play fields
As a minor of fact I can't even figure out how to acess the IRQ's in this bios there is nowhere and this project is coming to an end soon there is no solution



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#12
April 29, 2010 at 14:10:16
"xt5366wm is the only other thing on the bottom"

That's good - that's the specific model "number".

HP Pavilion xt5366WM Notebook PC (support)
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...

I looked at the Software and Driver downloads for that.

Apparently your computer has a built in wireless B/G networking adapter.
Is that shown in Device Manager under Network adapters as working properly?
You said you disabled the onboard LAN there because of the icon with a red X over it being in your task bar bugging you, but that's usually only shown for the wired network adapter.

If this computer still has it's original brand name software installation on it, or if you have re-loaded the original contents properly using the Recovery disks for your model, the wireless G adapter should be listed there, as well as the wired adapter, and the WPN511.

However, if you have re-loaded the hard drive by using a regular Windows CD, you must install the software and drivers listed for your model on the HP site, or at least all the drivers.


"cpuz reports the chipset to be an ATI RS200/RS200M Rev.02
and that the SouthBridge is a ALI M1533 says nothing else"

Okay, the ALi M1533 part is what I needed to know.
I had assumed it should have an ATI or AMD main chipset - ALi is another chipset maker (Acer Laboratories something).

Similarly, if the computer still has it's original software installation, the proper drivers are all loaded including those for the ALi M1533 main chipset.
However, if you have re-loaded the hard drive by using a regular Windows CD, you must install the software and drivers listed for your model on the HP site, or at least all the drivers.
The glitch in this case is HP lists no main chipset drivers that would apply for the M1533, other than for some components of it:

Driver - Network

National Semiconductor DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter NDIS 5.0 Miniport Driver for Windows 2000/XP ??
Description: This contains the Windows XP driver for the National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter NDIS 5.0 Miniport, an integrated LAN device.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...
.....

ALi Fast Infrared Controller Driver for Windows XP
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...
.....

I looked on the web for main chipset drivers for ALi M1533.
The problem with that is most of, if not not all, "hits" are supposed to download a file from the ALi web site, and ALi is no longer providing support for their older chips.

I searched for ALi M1533 drivers

e.g.

ALI CHIPSETS INTEGRATED DRIVER 2.05 WINDOWS 98SE ME 2000 XP (supports the M1533 chipset as well as others)
Release Date: July 26, 2003
file name: int205.zip

is found many places on the web, but
links to
www.ali.com.tw/driver/int205.zip
ftp://ftp.aliusa.com/driver/int205.zip
ftp://www.ali.com.tw/driver/int205.zip
no longer work

www.ali.com.tw
In Chinese
click on English tab
No support.

Some "hits" for M1533 drivers are for audio or integrated (ALi , not ATI) video ??

e.g. this one for M1533 is Sound drivers:
http://members.driverguide.com/driv...
........
SO - if you still have the original software installation on this computer, you problem is probably NOT caused by lack of drivers having been installed, including for the M1533 main chipset,
BUT if you have installed Windows from a regular CD, you MAY be missing drivers for the M1533 main chipset, and I don't know any other way of making sure those are loaded other than loading the original software installation, if the proper int205.zip or very similar cannot be downloaded on the web.

"....I can't even figure out how to acess the IRQ's in this bios..."

You usually don't need to.
You could try
- loading bios defaults, Save settings
- disable Com1 (it may be called a serial port) in the bios, Save settings

You can see what device uses which IRQ in System Information.
shortcut
Start - Run - type: msinfo32 (click OK or press Enter)
On the left side,
- open up Hardware Resources - IRQs
- open up Components - click on Problem devices - anything there? You could try that when the WPN511is NOT working, and when it's working.

This MAY be a case where ONLY the WPN511 won't load properly while booting.
Try a different brand, e.g. D-Link
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The only "hits" for searching with "ALi M1533" with the quotes on the Microsoft web site are:

Legacy PCI Interrupt Routing and CardBus in Windows

The Microsoft Windows 2000 operating system supports PCI interrupt routing on non-ACPI machines when the following conditions are true:

The BIOS provides IRQ routing information using either $PIR (as defined in the Microsoft PCI IRQ Routing specification) or the PCI BIOS real-mode interface.
(link to: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/archi... )

Windows 2000 supports the chipset. Supported chipsets are listed in the following table.

153310B9 Name = "ALi 1533"

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/archi...

SO - the basic support for the PCCARD (PCMCIA) slot interface is probably built into drivers privided by XP for the M1533, but you may need to tell the bios to NOT use "PNP OS installed" or similar. If there is no setting for that, the only thing you can do is to load bios defaults.
If the PCCARD (PCMCIA) slot interface is NOT supported properly, not only will the WPN511card not load, no other PCMCIA card will load properly either.

Performance counter value may unexpectedly leap forward
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274323



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#13
May 27, 2010 at 20:55:08
I gave up and traded it for a four wheeler haha Thank you for your time and patience

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May 28, 2010 at 08:25:34
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