Solved My computer keeps freezing with two sticks of RAM

June 17, 2012 at 13:05:10
Specs: Windows 7, E8200/2x2 GB Kingston 800 mhz
I have two 2GB DDR2 800 MHZ Kingston RAM and they are exactly the same. Each one works individually without any problems. However, whenever they work together and a game (like GTA 4 or Max Payne 3) runs with all settings checked as the highest level, my computer freezes about 15 min later with an annoying sound like grrrrrr.
I did mem test and it finished the test with each ram but it stopped at 16-18% as two rams were plugged.
I tested them in each slot together and individually and nothing changed.
I just bought CoolerMaster 500W PSU and again nothing changed. (I'd had 350W PSU before)
What should I do to fix this problem? I am really stressed. I have had this issue since I bought another 2GB RAM.(for about 2 months).
I am so sorry for my English, I tried to explain my problem as much as I can.
Thank you for help.
PS: I have an ASUS P5KC mobo and E8200 cpu

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June 17, 2012 at 17:36:45
For starters, you never told us anything about the PSUs other than wattage. Going from a 350W to a 500W isn't necessarily an upgrade. Cooler Master makes a lot of different PSU series from cheapo to high-end. If you got the 500W GX-Lite, you got a good one. If you got the 500W eXtreme Power Plus, not so good. And you need to see if there's anything you can do to prevent your GPU from getting so hot. How many case cooling fans do you have & how are they configured? Do you have a case with a top-mounted or bottom-mounted PSU?

Here's some overclock settings to try. These will put the CPU at 3.2GHz @ 1600MHz FSB with the RAM running in sync @ 800MHz:

AI overclocking = Manual
CPU Ratio Control = Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting = 8
FSB Frequency = 400MHz
PCIE Frequency = 100MHz
DRAM Frequency = DDR2-667
DRAM Timing Control = Auto *** timing settings are a bit complicated. If you know what you're doing, change the setting to Manual & input each setting as per the Kingston spec sheet below. If you're not comfortable doing that, just leave the setting on Auto ***
CPU Spread Spectrum = disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = disabled
DRAM Voltage = 1.80V *** you may want to try the DRAM voltage at 1.9V to see if that helps. I don't recommend going any higher than that ***

Here's your RAM specs:

http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/...



#1
June 17, 2012 at 13:13:26
what do your computer specs say about how much ram it will take
maybe 3 gig is all it will take if its 32 bit windows 7 oprearting system go to crucial.com with one stick in see what it tells you how much you can add

Davidw


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#2
June 17, 2012 at 13:20:42
I have an ASUS P5KC mobo and it tells I can add 4x2 8GB ram and I am using windows 7 ultimate 64 bit.

Here is my motherboard:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/In...


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#3
June 17, 2012 at 13:41:08
I don't know why you would upgrade the PSU to fix a RAM problem?

The E8200 is a 1333MHz FSB CPU, so you should be running DDR2-667 or your DDR2-800 should be underclocked to DDR2-667 speed (333MHz). Regardless, the BIOS memory settings (voltage, timings, speed, etc) should manually configured, not simply run at defaults. Have you considered overclocking the CPU to 1600MHz FSB so that you can take full advantage of your DDR2-800? You have a great board for it.

Which video card are you running?


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#4
June 17, 2012 at 13:56:46
I am running HD5770. I thought maybe my old PSU wasn't able to suppy enough energy to run it and I asked some people for this issue and they said to me that I should buy a higher PSU than I had. So I bought. I am not sure what you mean. If I use my CPU overclocked to 1600MHz, can I use my RAMs as DDR2-800 or still DDR2-667. In fact I'd asked this problem before and I'd been told that I had to underclock my RAMs to 667 again and I'd done it and it hadn't really worked.

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#5
June 17, 2012 at 14:38:44
If you keep your CPU at 1333MHz FSB (333MHz freq), you should underclock your RAM to DDR2-667 (333MHz freq). That way they are in sync with one another - both running at 333MHz.

If you overclock your CPU to 1600MHz FSB (400MHz freq), you should run your RAM as DDR2-800 (400MHz freq), but it requires tweaking of several BIOS settings.

Kingston makes a lot of RAM. Are both sticks you have identical? same model number? same default voltage? same latency? same timings? Are you installing them in DIMM_A1 & DIMM_B1


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#6
June 17, 2012 at 15:19:27
Agree with #5, especially pay attention to the last part about ALL of the different specs on the RAM. If any of the specs are different, you may be able to run them both, but you will need to find what specs they both will run at (the 'looser' of the two timings, the higher of the two voltages, etc.). To expect the best performance, purchase the memory as matched pairs as a set so that you can run them in dual channel configuration.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#7
June 17, 2012 at 15:39:30
Both of them are KVR800D2N6/2G and default 1.8V. I am installing them in DIMM_A1 & DIMM_A2. I was installing them in dual channel but when this problem happened, I put them in single channel so that maybe it could work.


I've just tried a program called FurMark and when my graphic card's temperature was about 90 celcius degree, same issue occured. Even though I was using one stick of RAM at the default settings as always, it happened again. Now I am going to try the program again with DDR-667 then I'll let you know the result.


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#8
June 17, 2012 at 15:52:45
While a GPU should be able to tolerate 90C, that's still awfully hot.

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#9
June 17, 2012 at 16:10:24
Same issue happened. But this time, it took longer than before to crash and the GPU tempereture was about 85C. Now I am not sure why it is happening. I am really confused. What else could cause to this problem?

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#10
June 17, 2012 at 17:36:45
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For starters, you never told us anything about the PSUs other than wattage. Going from a 350W to a 500W isn't necessarily an upgrade. Cooler Master makes a lot of different PSU series from cheapo to high-end. If you got the 500W GX-Lite, you got a good one. If you got the 500W eXtreme Power Plus, not so good. And you need to see if there's anything you can do to prevent your GPU from getting so hot. How many case cooling fans do you have & how are they configured? Do you have a case with a top-mounted or bottom-mounted PSU?

Here's some overclock settings to try. These will put the CPU at 3.2GHz @ 1600MHz FSB with the RAM running in sync @ 800MHz:

AI overclocking = Manual
CPU Ratio Control = Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting = 8
FSB Frequency = 400MHz
PCIE Frequency = 100MHz
DRAM Frequency = DDR2-667
DRAM Timing Control = Auto *** timing settings are a bit complicated. If you know what you're doing, change the setting to Manual & input each setting as per the Kingston spec sheet below. If you're not comfortable doing that, just leave the setting on Auto ***
CPU Spread Spectrum = disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = disabled
DRAM Voltage = 1.80V *** you may want to try the DRAM voltage at 1.9V to see if that helps. I don't recommend going any higher than that ***

Here's your RAM specs:

http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/...


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#11
June 17, 2012 at 18:17:24
I don't want to overclock my computer I just want it to work stably with no restarting or something else. I am sad to hear that extreme plus series aren't good because I have it :(.I have one extra cooling fan at the back and that's all. Rest of all are PSU's, GPU's and CPU's. I just realized that the GPU temperature gets hot so quickly and it never stops getting hotter. Its fan is a stock fan(not original fan) and the PSU's looks really dirty and its temperature is usually about 50C and it goes up about 58-59 as FurMark is running.
Is it connected to them?

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#12
June 17, 2012 at 18:23:22
I am guessing that the problem has always been the graphics card overheating. With one stick of memory the program or game cannot reach the same level and the graphics card is not stressed as hard so a bit less heat, but with both, it is getting more from the CPU/memory so it is working harder. Either you are overclocking your video card too much, you have too little air flow near the card, or your GPU's heat sink needs to be reset with a fresh/clean application of thermal compound (if new, return it).
Make sure your other expansion cards are not right against the graphics card, move any that you can to allow better air flow.
Reroute wires/cable bundles in your case to allow better air flow.
Make sure you have one rear fan high in your case set to blow OUT of your case. Replace with a high flow ball bearing fan if you do not feel the air flowing out of the case or the air is hot.
You can have an optional front fan low in your case blowing air INTO your case and over your hard drives towards your cards.
I do generally do NOT recommend side fans because they interrupt the smooth air flow through the case. You really want the air to flow smoothly in at the bottom front, over your components, and out at the upper rear to remove the most heat from your case. Some believe that a side fan blowing air directly towards their video card(s) is an advantage, but unless your case allows a second exhaust fan at the top, this would just stagnate the air (you always want more exhaust than intake).

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#13
June 17, 2012 at 18:34:13
I'll try all of them thanks a lot for your help. In addition, right now my country is in the summer and it is way hot. A month ago, it wasn't as hot as right now so maybe this problem didn't happened because of the weather. Anyway you helped me a lot thank you so much again.

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#14
June 17, 2012 at 20:27:37
"I don't want to overclock my computer"

Disappointing that you refuse to overclock. You're losing out on a lot of performance by not taking advantage of the full potential of your CPU, motherboard, & RAM. Whatever. You should still manually configure the BIOS settings. Use all the above settings but change these two:

Ratio CMOS Setting = 8, change to 8.5
FSB Frequency = 400MHz, change to 333MHz

"I am sad to hear that extreme plus series aren't good because I have it"

All you had to do was google up the reviews:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/arti...

http://www.techpowerup.com/158093/C...

"right now my country is in the summer and it is way hot"

It's summer where I am too. Right now, it's 86F (30C) in my room. My overclocked CPU is at 33C, HDD is 39C, & my passively cooled GPU is 56C. And I have zero case cooling fans, just the top mounted PSU with it's 120mm exhaust fan. It's all good here.


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#15
June 18, 2012 at 04:46:58
If I fix the temperature problem, I will definetely overclock my computer, today I will work on it. Thank you

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#16
June 18, 2012 at 11:24:41
I fixed the problem. I bought a new case and it fixed the temperature problem. I also overclocked the CPU and RAM. Now I am using the CPU as 1600mhz and the RAM as DDR2-800. Everything looks fine so far.

Thanks a lot for help.


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