MSI R5770 Hawk on a MSI MS-7093 Mainboad

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July 16, 2010 at 18:27:19
Specs: Windows XP
I just bought and installed a new graphics card ( MSI R5770 Hawk ) and my PC won`t boot.

The power comes on and fans etc. work but the system doesn`t boot.

Mainboard Model: MSI MS-7093
Current Bios v: 3.90
System Manufacturer: RS480
System Model: AWRDACPI
BIOS: Phoenix - Award BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.8GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Power Supply: 550W Huntkey PSU

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.100216-1514)

Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster B2430H (Digital)

When I replace the graphics card with my older MSI Geforce NX7600GT everything works fine.

Advice please

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July 16, 2010 at 21:01:18

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July 20, 2010 at 07:27:09
Thanks for the feedback.

Purchased a new Gigabyte Odin 585w Power Supply and still same problem.

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July 20, 2010 at 08:10:08
Did you remove the AC power to the power supply at ALL times while you were fiddling with plugging in or unplugging anything that connects to the mboard or to the power supply ?

The MSI R5770 Hawk probably has one or two sockets that a connector or connectors from the power supply must be connected to - did you connect that/those ?

Are you SURE the MSI R5770 Hawk is / was all the way down in it's slot before you tried to boot the computer ?

The mboard probably has a small socket on it other than the main 20 or 24 pin one - did you connect a connector from the power supply to that ?

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July 20, 2010 at 10:51:06
1. Yes

2. Yes - 1 socket

3. Yes

4. Yes - 4 pin socket

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July 20, 2010 at 23:25:01
If the original video card still works with your system the way it is now, then the new card was defective when you got it (unlikely) , or you damaged yourself (much more likely) - it probably will not work in any computer.
Can you try it in another computer ?

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July 21, 2010 at 12:32:14
By the way, what do you mean when you say "doesn't boot" in this:

"The power comes on and fans etc. work but the system doesn`t boot."

People often say their computer doesn't boot when the real problem is Windows is not loading properly, or they're not getting video in Windows.

If you get video while booting before Windows loads but then Windows doesn't have video, the computer is booting the hard drive fine - it's Windows that has a problem.
That problem of no video in Windows in that situation is easily fixed.

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July 21, 2010 at 14:19:29
Thanks for the feedback

When I say the system doesn`t boot it means that the power and fans come on but the system doesn`t even load the bios - Just a black screen with no bios error beeps either..

With the old graphics card bios loads and windows boots fine.

I tested the MSI R5770 Hawk in my friend`s PC and it works fine.

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July 21, 2010 at 15:23:41
Okay, so it appears there's nothing wrong with the card or the PCI-E X16 slot on the Pavilion.

The PCI-E spec of the card may be newer (higher) than the mboard's, but newer PCI-E specs are supposed to be backward compatible with older ones - it's extremely rare for the video to not work for that reason alone, and I've never heard of that causing boot problems.
However, newer PCI-E specs include support for a higher max. current draw from the card's video chipset . If your mboard doesn't support the higher current draw of the new card, that could be the cause of your problem in theory.

Did you try connecting your Samsung monitor to your friend's computer ?

Are you certain you connected the Samsung monitor correctly? See it's manual.

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July 21, 2010 at 21:11:22
The MS-7093 mboard series appears to be an OEM only model series - sold only to HP, and was only installed in HP and Compaq models - there is no support for it on the MSI web sites. The bios version is either a HP or Compaq bios version, not a MSI version.

There are at least three version series of the MS-7093 - one with the RS480 Northbridge chip, which has onboard video, and two with the RX480 Northbridge chip, which has no onboard video. All of them have a PCI-E X 16 slot, and each SATA data header supports 1 serial ATA-150 disk drive.

The one series with the RS480 chip, which has onboard video, is named Albacore-xxxx by HP, and was used in more models than the other two.

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Motherboard Specifications, MS-7093 (Albacore)

Models came with or without a video card in a slot.

Used in HP Pavilion a1132n Desktop PC
Product number
Introduction date
US and Canada
(no video card in a slot)

The two with the RX480 chip, no onboard video, are named Ahi-xxxx or Ahi2-xxxx by HP.

Motherboard Specifications, MS-7093 (Ahi and Ahi2)

Ahi - accepts only ATI video (cards)
Ahi2 - accepts ATI and NVidia video (cards)

Ahi used in
Compaq Presario SR1378FR Desktop PC
Product number
Introduction date
Country/region sold in
Video graphics
ATI Radeon X300 (card)

Ahi2 used in
HP Media Center
ATI Radeon X300 (card)

Compaq Presario SR1440UK Desktop PC
Ge Force 6200 (card)

This OEM only MSI manual is for the mboard version without onboard video, Ahi:

It says....
"One PCI Express X16 slot (supports PCI Express Bus specification v. 1.0a compliant) "
a.k.a. PCI-E version 1.0a

That probably applies to all three series.

Your MSI R5770 HAWK

"The card comes with a DVI to D-sub adapter"

"ATI says this card draws 108W of power at full but 18W (at) idle."

"Host Interface PCI Express 2.1 x16 "
a.k.a. PCI-E ver. 2.1.

PCI Express 1.0

In 2004, Intel introduced PCIe 1.0, with a data rate of 250 MB/s and a transfer rate of 2.5 GT/s.

PCI Express 2.0

PCI-SIG announced the availability of the PCI Express Base 2.0 specification on 15 January 2007.

PCIe 2.0 motherboard slots are fully backward compatible with PCIe v1.x cards. PCIe 2.0 cards are also generally backward compatible with PCIe 1.x motherboards, using the available bandwidth of PCI Express 1.1. Overall, graphic cards or motherboards designed for v 2.0 will be able to work with the other being v 1.1 or v 1.0.

PCI Express 2.1

PCI Express 2.1 supports a large proportion of the management, support, and troubleshooting systems planned to be fully implemented in PCI Express 3.0. However, the speed is the same as PCI Express 2.0.

Mboard with a RS480 Northbridge chip would not boot with a PCI-E 2.1 spec video card installed, but works fine with an ASUS 4350 512MB PCI-E 2.0 spec card.
Also " there was a post that mentioned some older versions of PCI-e 1.0 slots being incompatible with 2.1 otherwise the ones after that bug were fine with PCI-e 2.1 "

Also, I speculated that the wiring of a MS-7093 may not support the current requirements of newer video chipsets...
MSI MS-7093 Mboard; Want Gcard Upgrade Advice

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July 21, 2010 at 22:33:25
This is the MB I have in my PC:

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July 21, 2010 at 22:56:54
Okay, so it was also used in emachines systems, and in that case would have an emachines bios version.
Since that has onboard video (does yours? ) as well as a PCI-E X 16 slot, it's in the same version series as the one HP calls Albacore, and has the RS480 Northbridge chip. It probably has the PCI-E 1.0a spec too. It's too old to have the PCI-E 2.0 spec or higher.

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July 22, 2010 at 07:33:14
Yes, it`s the MS-7093 - with the RS480 Northbridge chip and has onboard video

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July 22, 2010 at 09:11:48
All of the above mboards have MS-7093 on them, but there are at least three possible different mboard version or revision series of the model.

According to that one "hit" I found for another mboard that has the RS480 chip,
(see "Mboard with a RS480 Northbridge chip would not boot .." etc. in the latter part of Response 9)
you may have the rare case where no video cards rated PCI-E ver. 2.1 will work in your mboard. You may need to use the MSI card in another computer if you have one, or return it, and get a card with no higher than a PCI-E ver. 2.0 spec. E.g. a Radeon HD48xx card

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July 22, 2010 at 09:50:28
Thanks for all your feedback.

Looks like I will have to get a new motherboard.

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