Installing Windows 98 - CD Drivers

Dell Dimension c521 desktop
November 26, 2009 at 06:17:28
Specs: Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005, 1GB
Hello. I'm having troubles installing Windows
98 on a new logical partition. The partition is
12GB, and has nothing on it. I have a
Windows 98 Retail CD, but I don't have a
floppy drive. My problem is, when I load up the
Win98 CD, no matter what I click under "boot
from CD-ROM", it names the company of a
driver or CD maker or something, then says
"no CD drivers found" or something similar.
Note that I CAN boot to the CD, but it does not
load Setup. Before returning to Command
Prompt with drive letter A:>, it says "No valid
CDROM device drivers selected". And so I
can't find Setup on the CD Drive. I've tried
copying the standard drivers to my partition
where Win98 WILL be installed, but that hasn't
helped. Any help? Note that I have a DVD-
ROM drive that plays CDs or DVDs, could that
be the problem? *the CD is a CD however,

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November 26, 2009 at 06:32:04
You need a floppy drive to boot from first so that the CD drivers can be loaded - a standard Win98 startup disk will do this. Alternatively, if you can copy to the harddrive then copy the contents of the Win9x folder on the CD to it and run setup from there.

Another thought, you can create a Win98 startup disk on a CD ( a quick Google should give the exaxct method, but you need something like Nero to achieve it), then once booted swap Cds & away you go. Still prefer the copy Win9x folder method though as it means you don't need the disk again in the future should you add/remove Win components.

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November 26, 2009 at 06:38:14
I don't want to buy an external floppy drive right now, and I did
make a DOS CD with MagicISO. The problem is, when I boot to
the DOS CD, it says CD driver "BANANA" not found or
something odd like that. Any other help, getting drivers to work in
my DOS CD?

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November 26, 2009 at 06:47:53
Give THIS page a try - it's got ISOs for Win98 boot disks that should have all you need on them. However I still think that once you are at a command prompt you will find it easier to copy the Win9x folder to the harddrive (assuming you've fdisk'd it), then reboot, change to the Win9x folder & run setup. The reason being is that if you boot from a CD that thinks it's a floppy disk then your CD drive may well end up being (temporarily) the 'A' drive, which can cause errors - it's a little while since I went through this process though - stick to the 'copy folder' method - it works...

Incidentally, an external floppy drive (as you mentioned it) may not work anyway unless your system is capable of booting from a USB device. If your motherboard has a floppy drive connector you would need to plug one in there & as they are very little money these days that may be another option.

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November 26, 2009 at 07:12:17
1st of all, if you have 1GB RAM, Win98 will not install. 98 isn't designed to use that much RAM. You will have to reduce the RAM amount to 512MB or less, then install 98, then tweak the vcache settings, THEN you can go back to 1GB.

"I don't want to buy an external floppy drive right now"

Why would you want an external anyway? You should have an internal. You can get a new one for less than $10 or a used one for under $5. It amazes me how many people don't bother putting one in their systems these days, then bang their head against the wall trying to find a work around when they find a floppy is needed.

Get a floppy drive!

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November 26, 2009 at 13:12:58
To save yourself some time why not consider a virtual machine? VMplayer 3 or VirtualPC or Virtualbox would run Window 98 fine. All you need for 98 is 128-256 or so meg so that leaves enough for your xp system.
I'd suggest VirtualPC but all are good choices. Normally I prefer VMplayer 3. It is just that VPC is made to run 98.

This is for the ram issue.

To work around this problem, use one of the following methods:

* Use the MaxFileCache setting in the System.ini file to reduce the maximum amount of memory that Vcache uses to 512 megabytes (524,288 KB) or less. For additional information about how to use the MaxFileCache setting, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
108079 ( ) 32-Bit File Access Maximum Cache Size
* Use the System Configuration utility to limit the amount of memory that Windows uses to 512 megabytes (MB) or less.For additional information about how to use the System Configuration utility, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
181966 ( ) System Configuration Utility Advanced Troubleshooting Settings
* Reduce the amount of memory that is installed in your computer to 512 MB or less."

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Les Paul (1915-2009)

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November 26, 2009 at 20:36:42
I'm not sure if they all came this way but some of the c521's had SATA DVD drives. The 98 cd and the ISO with the stupid banana setup are only for ATAPI drives.

However, when you boot with the 98 cd you should be able to start setup as the bios doesn't need drivers in order to boot from a CD/DVD drive. Just type SETUP and enter at the a:\> prompt. But even if you get 98 installed, I'm not sure it'll see a SATA DVD.

If it is SATA and you want to set up a 98 bootdisk or boot cd you need to use gcdrom.sys. I just posted info on that here:

Oh, and you said you wanted to install it on a 'new logical partition'. 98 is fussy about where it will install and you may not be able to direct it to any place other than a primary partition.

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