I think I fried my motherboard guys?

Asus Asus intel x58/ich10r core i7/ core...
June 19, 2013 at 09:12:21
Specs: Windows 7
I installed my motherboard in my new tower, little did I know at the time that the motherboard needed standoffs. I tryed starting the computer about 6 times and it would turn on for a split second and the turn off. Then I researched it and found out it was because of standoffs so I put those in. But now none of the usb slots work at all. My monitor doesn't turn on when connected graphics card. In fact I took a look at my graphics card and when I start my pc, the fans spin for a split second then stop. I looked it up and some people said that the motherboard couldn't be fried because there is a safety feature on the power supply that won't allow power to a motherboard without standoffs. Is that true or am I screwed? Or could it be something else? and it work about 2 days ago, before I switched towers of course.

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#1
June 19, 2013 at 09:14:58
Other than the standoff issue, you should never install a motherboard in a case without bench testing it 1st. I suggest you take it out of the case & start over from scratch, this time do it right. This article will show you the way:

http://www.techsupportforum.com/for...

How about posting your complete list of hardware?


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#2
June 19, 2013 at 09:17:31
What happens when it is turned on, nothing on the screen, no bios screen, nothing. When you turn it on does the cpu fan spin and then shut off like the video card. How do you know the USB ports are not working if it doesn't load into anything and the monitor is black???

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#3
June 19, 2013 at 09:22:47
No nothing shows on screen at all. No, none of the usb's work because my keyboard and mouse don't light up. Ok I will benchtest the system soon. I just need time to do that. Seems like it will take quite sometime.

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#4
June 19, 2013 at 09:52:41
"Seems like it will take quite sometime"

If you're inexperienced, it might take some time, if not, it won't take long at all. In the meantime, how about listing your system specs in detail? Make/model/model numbers of your CPU, board, RAM, video card, power supply, etc. Also what type of thermal material was used on the CPU? Was it already pre-installed on the heatsink or did you apply thermal paste yourself? It must be done correctly or the system will shutdown almost immediately.

Also, what was the reason for switching towers?


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#5
June 19, 2013 at 10:06:05
The reason I want to switch towers is because I needed more space for graphic cards. The new one I am getting is about 11 inches long!
My pc was made by Ibuypower
Its an Asus computer
Asus Motherboard - P6 X58-E Pro
Cpu - Intel Core i7 970, 6 cores
Video Cards - 2 Amd Radeon Hd 7770s Crossfire
Power Supply - Eco Element 750W
Ram - 3 DDR3 1600 2GB chips
I had to remove the thing with the thermal paste on it when I installed. The thermal paste was pre-installed.

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#6
June 19, 2013 at 10:54:33
"My pc was made by Ibuypower"

Yikes!

"I had to remove the thing with the thermal paste on it when I installed. The thermal paste was pre-installed"

You can't re-use thermal paste. The old paste must be completely removed from both the CPU & heatsink, then fresh paste applied. And it MUST be done correctly. Find your CPU on the list & follow the instructions (you don't have to use Arctic Silver).

http://www.arcticsilver.com/intel_a...

"Power Supply - Eco Element 750W"

Not a choice I would have made.


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#7
June 19, 2013 at 11:25:35
Can you further explain the reasons those are bad? And by the way it's not possible to benchtest because I can't see anything on the monitor


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#8
June 19, 2013 at 19:11:29
What do you mean it's not possible to benchtest?

- Take the board out of the case & set it on a bench, table, or box. Make 100% sure the CPU & heatsink are installed correctly with the proper amount of thermal paste, using the appropriate paste application method. <-- this is critical!
- Install just ONE stick of RAM in either slot A1, B1, or C1.
- Install just ONE video card in the upper (blue) PCIe slot.
- Connect the power supply to the board, both the 24-pin main ATX plug & 8-pin ATX12V plug.
- Connect a 6-pin PCIe plug to the video card if it's required.
- Connect the monitor cable to the video card.
- Plug in a keyboard.

That's it, nothing else!

Now switch on the monitor & power supply, then use the board's built-in power button (just below the lowest PCIe slot) to test the system. What happens when you press the button?


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#9
June 19, 2013 at 19:58:25
As rider is saying. If the thingy (heatsink) that sits on the cpu (the 6 core) came off some how, then you when you bench test it make sure you paste that as above, and make sure the heat sink is firmly and properly attached. They cpu heats up very quickly and get very hot, if that heatsink is not doing the job, heat will cause it shut off again right away to save the cpu from burning out. That part is indeed critical.

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#10
June 19, 2013 at 20:08:54
"Can you further explain the reasons those are bad?"

iBuyPower/CyberPowerPC doesn't have the greatest rep. They can build a decent system IF the buyer is familiar with hardware & does a custom configuration, but many of their default components, especially power supplies, are complete garbage. I did a search on the "Eco Element 750W" & came up with a generic brand called CaseGears. Further searching says the manufacturer is Sunbeam. In other words, it's overpriced junk, typical of iBuyPower/CyberPowerPC. I suggest you get a decent name brand PSU ASAP. You can't beat this Corsair 750W for just $60 after promo code & rebate:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#11
June 20, 2013 at 02:27:07
Ok I will try everything you guys are suggesting. Thank you guys for all the help. I will benchtest it but I am almost 100% sure the motherboard is fried because of the standoff issue.

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#12
June 20, 2013 at 05:42:22
"I am almost 100% sure the motherboard is fried because of the standoff issue"

I'm guessing it's not. By removing the heatsink from the CPU, then reinstalling it without removing & re-applying the thermal paste, you may have saved the board from damage. With the heatsink incorrectly installed, the system would shutdown immediately anyway, even if the board was installed with the standoffs.

I strongly suggest you replace the "Eco Element" power supply ASAP. It's an accident waiting to happen.


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#13
June 20, 2013 at 06:21:03
Ok so you are saying it could be completely because of the heatsink? and because of the thermal paste? If so I will try and fix that as soon as possible. Also the system turns on when I press the power button, its just that nothing on the motherboard works. Why do you think it would be the power supply?

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#14
June 20, 2013 at 12:20:32
1. For starters, motherboard voltage is DC, not AC, so it's very possible that shorting out the underside of the board did no damage.

2. As I've said a couple of times now, proper CPU & heatsink installation are critical. If it is done incorrectly, the system either will not boot at all or it will immediately shut down. That means zero or minimal voltage flowed thru the board. Basically what I'm saying is your mistake may have saved the board from damage.

3. Your power supply is a low end piece of crap. You're putting your whole system at risk by using it, so another possibility is the overloaded power supply sent a power surge thru the board, frying the board, or CPU, or RAM, or video cards, or any combination.

You need to tear the entire system apart & bench test it with minimal hardware as I listed in response 8. Until you do that, we're all just wasting our time guessing what might be wrong.


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#15
June 20, 2013 at 13:02:10
I am having a friend come over tomorrow and he's bringing the thermal paste with him and then we will bench test it. Wish me luck.

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#16
June 21, 2013 at 15:51:00
You know I haven't got to bench test it yet but you are probably right riider because if my motherboard was fried it wouldn't even work and plus I rubbed some of that thermal paste off by accident when reinstalling it. So I think my motherboard is fine. After I get the paste and reapply it I will let you guys know how it goes.

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#17
June 21, 2013 at 19:45:12
Make sure that you carefully clean off all of the old thermal compound using a high quality rubbing alcohol and if needed, the edge of an old credit card (never metal) to help.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#18
June 22, 2013 at 03:42:02
Will do, thank you.

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#19
June 22, 2013 at 13:33:33
Ok guys I got everything working now, I put the thermal compound on the heatsink very carefully and properly and I also got all the cords connected. Couple interesting things happened during the test. My motherboard is working I think, but the thing is, my graphics cards are working and are on, but those use the power supply not the motherboard, and still none of the usbs work and monitor isn't getting a signal. Any thoughts of what I would need to do to get that stuff working?

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