Solved I need to plug a usb into a cpu port using an adapter.

July 10, 2014 at 17:40:04
Specs: windows 8, relay cpu
I am going to build a relay cpu I know it will work but I need some sort of adapter for the cpu and I need to convert it to a usb cable

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July 10, 2014 at 20:20:56
Oh, generally the slot in which the processor is inserted is called the socket:

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_...

That's an example of Intel's LGA 1155 socket.

So what does USB have to do with it? Are you trying to hook up your processor via a USB port?

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July 10, 2014 at 18:36:00

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#2
July 10, 2014 at 19:02:57
Uh...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU_(d...

None of those CPU's make sense.

So what exactly do you mean by relay CPU?

I don't know what you mean by CPU port either.

Some common motherboard ports include JUSB and JCOM, which are for USB and Serial ports, respectively. Do you mean one of these?

Some other common ports:

http://removeandreplace.com/2013/04...

So take your pick, I'm sure you could find a converter by googling:

X to USB converter

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#3
July 10, 2014 at 19:13:16
I am not sure exactly what it's called but what I meant by cpu port was the area in the motherboard when the processer is inserted when assembling a computer

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#4
July 10, 2014 at 19:17:28
a relay cpu is a computer processer made entirely out of wires and relays sort of a electromechanical processer.

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July 10, 2014 at 20:20:56
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Oh, generally the slot in which the processor is inserted is called the socket:

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_...

That's an example of Intel's LGA 1155 socket.

So what does USB have to do with it? Are you trying to hook up your processor via a USB port?

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#7
July 10, 2014 at 23:37:49
Your average CPU socket has nearly one thousand contacts. A USB plug has six (or is it eight?). It's going to be some mighty convertor that can sensibly interface the two.

That you can build a processor using relays that would work in any modern motherboard is a pipedream. For starters the relays couldn't switch at the speeds demanded by the system clock. And do you know how many millions of transistors there are in a modern CPU? It would take a room the size of a building to house those relays and the power from a small electricity generating station to power them.


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#8
July 11, 2014 at 01:51:30
This is the first time I've heard of a relay cpu but it sounds like a neat little project.

I don't think it's meant to replace the cpu on a regular motherboard. As already mentioned there's no practical way to simulate a modern cpu. And if you can't do that, whatever you build isn't going to work on the motherboard.

It's more of a breadboard project. You're building a simple cpu with limited input and output capabilities. So I'm not sure what how the USB cable and adapter fit into your project.


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#9
July 11, 2014 at 02:39:45
The one use for a USB cable would be for serial communications with another computer. But it would have to be quite a complicated setup to be capable of that, probably using other chips.

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#10
July 11, 2014 at 11:30:31
Standard USB (type A and B) have 4 pins. Mini and Micro (type A and B) have 5. USB 3.0 has 9 pins.

So there really isn't a way to plug a USB device into a CPU socket.

If you were trying to program a chip with this relay CPU, a Serial Port would be much better than USB, as they are primarily designed for that.

Again, I really don't know what USB has to do with this, it sounds to me like you basically want to put your own custom processor in a computer.

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#11
July 11, 2014 at 19:58:10
you said that It sounded like I wanted to plug my own custom processer into the computer and that is true but I need to connect my relay processer to the socket with a cable because I is to large/

If you can find a serial cable to processer socket cable please post the site URL no mater the price

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#12
July 11, 2014 at 20:14:34
another one of you said it is impossible to replicate the thousands or transisters in the cpu also true but it is not impusible to replicate a cpu a cpu runs multiple functions so you replicate this with a series of relays.

just look up relay cpu on youtube


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#13
July 11, 2014 at 23:27:53
There is no such thing as a serial cable to CPU socket adapter. Simply does not exist anywhere at any price. Everything I have learned about electronics and computers in the last 35+ years tells me it is impossible to construct such a device.

Even if we were to ignore some critical factors a direct interface between a CPU socket and a relay CPU would be extremely difficult. Adding in a serial cable makes it even more complex. The computer expects that the signals from the CPU have very critical timing. You can't emulate that with mechanical relays. You would need some very complex and sophisticated electronics to do that. That is if it were possible at all.

Just to touch on the complexity of the relay CPU itself. All of those currently built are mere toys in comparison to what would be required.

Give up on this project before you waste anymore time


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#14
July 12, 2014 at 00:31:55
It almost sounds like you're trying to build a Turing machine (google it).

I'm curious, have you picked out a motherboard for this project? Motherboards are designed around the cpu. That is, MSI or Asus delve into the specs of a new processor and then design a motherboard to work with it. I'm wondering what processor your relay cpu will mimic.

Each pin on a processor does something. Have you designed your relay cpu to provide all the proper signals and voltages the socket expects?

When I was 7 or 8 years old I was home from school a lot due to asthma. One time when I was home there was a mercury or gemini space shot. This was back when astronauts going into space was a big deal. I decided I was going to listen in on their communications with my homemade radio receiver. It consisted of wires, a D cell battery, a window screen and an AC socket. Well, you know what happened. I plugged it into the AC, sparks flew and the breaker blew. What you're wanting to do kind of reminds me of that--not that you're going to blow up anything; it just won't work.

You're obviously a bright kid. There used to be a maganize called Popular Electronics and its offspring Popular Computing. Each month they'd have a project you could build. Those magazines aren't around anymore but there's probably others. I don't keep up. Anyway, check into something like that.

Take a lot of math in high school, where it's easy and EE and CE classes when you get to college and you'll do fine.


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#15
July 12, 2014 at 01:22:27
DAVEINCAPS,

I love your response.


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#16
July 12, 2014 at 06:16:46
I know this question is running long and some of you vew a relay cpu as kind of a joke but give them a chance they may be slot but the way they process is they transfer data in segments preventing data backup eliminating lag.

Remember this is just an experiment, please try you best

if you find any cable that plugs into the processer socket post the webpage url

nothing is imposible


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#17
July 12, 2014 at 06:22:11
one of you said that the motherboard expects signals at a precise time but one motherboard can have a different pressers like a motherboard that has a Intel i5 has the same socket size as a i7

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#18
July 12, 2014 at 07:32:53
This sounds like one of those ideas that seems reasonable at first but becomes hopelessly impractical when you consider the hard facts of reality. Like an airplane design that doesn't consider gravity.



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#19
July 12, 2014 at 07:45:17
you all are being very helpful but if its possible or not is not the question it is if some sort of cable exists and where I can find it

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#20
July 12, 2014 at 07:48:34
I know you all know what your talking about and all of your ranks are at or near expert level so I trust your opinion.

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#21
July 12, 2014 at 12:06:01
dose any cable exist

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#22
July 12, 2014 at 13:19:01
The only thing you will get that will plug into a CPU socket is a CPU. There is no earthly reason why you might want to plug anything else into a CPU socket except a CPU.

A lot of the connections on a modern CPU are taken up with the data bus and the address bus. In a 32 bit CPU the data bus will be 32 different connections and 64 connections for the address bus. With a 64 bit CPU everything in doubled. All the signals passing through these connections have to be synchronised to a high degrees of accuracy, to within a few billionths of a second. You will never get that degree of precision with a mechanical relay.

The transistors inside a CPU switch, not a millions of times per second, but billions of times per second. If you were to design a relay CPU to add two eight bit numbers it would probably do it in about one second.

Fast you may think but a modern CPU can do billions of such additions in one second.

Stuart

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#23
July 12, 2014 at 16:35:23
I know but I am building a processer so it is not that far fetched

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#24
July 12, 2014 at 19:04:05
thank you all for helping me find an answer I couldn't find a cable so I found a company that made custom adapters and they have agreed to make it so it will go as planed but I have decide to go with a serial cable instead.

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#25
July 12, 2014 at 20:58:19
Well that's interesting. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

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#26
July 13, 2014 at 07:16:25
thank you everyone for your information

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