HP A1630n desktop PC won`t boot up.

Hewlett-packard / A1630
April 3, 2014 at 18:56:21
Specs: Windows 8, AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core
I have an HP A1630n desktop pc that i bought new in 06 or 07. It came with Window xp (media center). It has been well kept and updated by a friend of mine who was a pc guru. Unfortunatly he passed away about 10 months ago in a car accident. Just before the accident i had a few problems with the windows xp operating system and he removed xp..added more ram..and installed Windows 8. Everything went great, once I became familiar with it. Recently I became interested in WGT..online golf game, and my pc was doing fine. I noticed that the fans would run a little harder than normal when i was playing, but i kept it clean and cool. Two days ago i hit the power button and the fans,(all3) came on running wide open and it won`t boot up or anything. The fans just keep running. Any advice as to what direction I need to proceed would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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#1
April 3, 2014 at 20:53:11
Wrong forum, should be Windows 8 or hardware forum.
Could be a number of things from corrupt boot sector, to a power supply failing to a memory or hard drive issue, and possibly others.
Try tapping F8 at boot up and see if you have repair options like:
Last Known Good Configuration
System Restore
Start Up Repair
or other repair options (I think Widows 8.1 has other options now)
If you do, then try them one at a time to see if any will restore your system.
If you do not get repair options, blank screen, or no signal notice from monitor, you can try disconnecting the hard drive to see if you get a post screen. Then you can see if you try one stick of memory and again with no memory (beep tone). Report all results so we can narrow things down a bit.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#2
April 4, 2014 at 16:13:50
"i kept it clean and cool

Can we assume from that you mean the CPU heat-sink, vents and fans are clear of dust?

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#3
April 5, 2014 at 23:29:03
Thanks for the advice...I unplugged the hardware going to the motherboard and tried powering up and the fans now come on for just a second, then go off. I replaced each plug one by one and tried to start pc..Same thing. I took processer out and tried. This time the pc would come on and fans were running and they didn`t stop. Does this mean my processer is bad? If so, what does something like that cost and can I install it? I have an AMD Athlon 64x2. Thanks for your help.

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#4
April 5, 2014 at 23:32:59
Yes you are correct. I`m anal about keeping the vents and fans clean. My friend had to replace the power supply a couple of years ago. He said it was dirty and probably caused it to fail, so now I make suer it`s clean. My pc also sits on top of my desk where it can get more air, rather than under it. Thanks for the advice.

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#5
April 6, 2014 at 05:21:31
Note that if you removed the CPU you had to first remove the CPU's heat sink (it is not possible to remove the CPU with the heat sink still attached without damaging the socket). Once you do that, you MUST remove all of the old thermal compound from both mating surfaces and replace it with the right amount of new thermal compound applied in the right way. Please look at this:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/amd_app...
for the right way for your CPU.

How are you cleaning out your system? You can safely clean out your system's case and components with a can of compressed air sold at computer and office supply stores, but you cannot safely clean it with an ordinary vacuum cleaner due to the static charge that can build up on the hose and damage internal components.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#6
April 6, 2014 at 15:51:36
I am a tool & die machinist and i have a machine shop at my home.I usually use compressed air to clean out my pc. I just regulate the air pressure down so that it doesn`t damage anything.

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#7
April 6, 2014 at 15:58:19
I did remove the heat sink,(i was refering to it as cooling fins) lol..But i reused the thermal compound that was still on the heat sink & cpu. I now realize that i need to reapply new compound, but that wouldn`t keep the cpu from working properly just to try & boot the pc, would it?

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#8
April 6, 2014 at 18:05:31
With poor thermal conductivity you should get as far as boot but no guaranty and definitely not much further. The CPU without heat sink will heat up very fast and go through a thermal shut down. I would reset the heat sink before assuming anything else is bad and if needed, going on from there. Use a high quality rubbing alcohol (95%+ alcohol) and an old credit card as a scraper if needed (metal will leave microscopic scratches and make thermal contact worse) to remove the old compound. The thermal compound does not need to be the expensive kind (avoid those containing metallic compounds since they require more care since they are conductive), nearly any will do fine, just apply it correctly and you are set.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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