How to install Win10 UEFI x64 from USB

May 4, 2017 at 05:35:00
Specs: Windows 10
Hello,

I have a Medion Akoya S2218, after a Windows Update corrupted my OS somehow I had to completely wipe the laptop and start again. I have currently got Windows 10 Pro x86 (Activated) installed on my system, but it needs to be in x64 for the drivers to work correctly with my hardware.

For some reason I have no problem installing Windows 7 x86/x64, Windows 8.1 x86/x64 and Windows 10 x86, but for whatever reason Windows 10 x64 will not boot. After months and months of research I am lead to believe that it is some problem with this new version of BIOS (UEFI) yet I have done everything I am supposed to and still cannot seem to get it to work.

There are numerous threads on other websites regarding this issue but mine is not exactly the same and none of the answers on alternate posts fix my issues. So far I have tried;

- Using Windows Media Creator, RUFUS and other 3rd party tools for 'preparing' USB
- Numerous different USB sticks in varying sizes and formats (FAT32/NTFS)
- Different USB ports (I have 2 USB v2.0 ports)
- Tried to boot with 'Secure Boot' on and off
- Tired to use a x86 loader instead of bootx64.efi (D:/EFI/BOOT/)
- Numerous Windows 10 ISO's from varying sources, including using genuine MS Media Creator

It just makes no sense, as I mentioned above, I can install all other OS' absolutely fine with no issue, and yet this is just proving to be impossible to me, yet I know it needs it to be able to run some of the drivers in the chipset package correctly. Namely the MicroSD and HDMI ports.

Any help would be really appreciated,


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#1
May 4, 2017 at 05:46:31
"I had to completely wipe the laptop and start again"
Did you delete all the partitions?

"I am lead to believe that it is some problem with this new version of BIOS (UEFI)"
Can you upload some photos of those relevant areas please.

File Convoy ( no account needed ) Give us the links please.
http://www.fileconvoy.com/index.php


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#2
May 4, 2017 at 06:03:08
This post is a continuation of this earlier post linked below...

https://www.computing.net/answers/h...


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#3
May 4, 2017 at 06:40:43
@JohnW

When it initially went wrong, I couldn't do anything with it because I had left it to do a windows update overnight and i awoke to my main/spare and even recovery partitions had all been corrupted somehow? I did manage to get Linux to run on it temporarily, and that enabled me to delete all partitions, so I could at least get Win10 x86 back on here using Rufus and an bootx86.efi.

http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?i...

I have tried all manor of different combinations of USB stick format to different ISO's to Secure Boot On/Off and i just cannot get it back on there, but i am fairly confident this is why the drivers are not working as they should on x86 and i am therefore unable to use my MicroSD port.

Thank you.

@trvlr

Not quite a continuation; it is possible that the drivers are working, but my OS is just on the wrong architecture (x86 instead of x64) So hopefully with two questions targeting two different possible problems I thought I may be able to get some potential answers. As my first post was more poised towards getting the MicroSD by any means necessary, whether it be a Medion or other driver and this post aimed towards an issue installing the OS on a UEFI chip.

Thank you.


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#4
May 4, 2017 at 06:44:46
Just let me know now please gep420, if you can stay online. I will go to bed if you can't.

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#5
May 4, 2017 at 07:07:55
Can I have a photo of the bios main page please.
Then use the across arrow & give me a photo of that page.

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#6
May 4, 2017 at 13:31:38
understood... A trawl around the medion site doesn't bring up any restore disk images... which might have been an option?

You say you deleted "all partitions" when you set about a re-install... Often the recovery partition was hidden and not easily deleted; at least as far as Win-XP. Are you certain you deleted that partition?


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#7
May 5, 2017 at 02:32:37
@Johnw
Here are the pictures you asked for, I believe I have set up the BIOS and USB correctly for accepting a UEFI x64 OS Install.

NB: As far as I can tell or find, there is no current update to the BIOS/UEFI so presumably I am on the latest version available to me.

http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?i...

Thank you.

@trvlr
Yes I have hunted around the site countless times for a system image disk but to no avail, even called the Medion Support team who claim they cannnot supply a recovery disk. Which is why i thought i would ask the online community to see if any tech savvy people may have purchased this laptop to run tests etc, and perhaps they would be willing/able to produce a system image disk for me as thus far the internet has not been my friend.

I managed to used a portable distribution of Ubuntu to access the laptop with very limited functionality, through which I was able to see all main and hidden/recovery partitions and as i couldn't get anything to work. The only choice I felt I had was to remove the Windows OS Completely, including all partitions, and start again with a blank canvas. At the time I was not aware of all the new(ish) UEFI procedures and did not realise it would cause this many problems. I just simply cannot understand why the x64 is so difficult to get working where the x86 works fine, it's as if it just refuses to detect the bootx64.efi on my stick for Win10 but any other Windows OS works fine on both x86/x64. If you would note the link above does contain a picture of both the BIOS recognising the USB stick, the boot priority being in the correct order and also the directories within the USB stick so you can confirm all relevant files are in the correct place.

Thank you.


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#8
May 5, 2017 at 03:43:04
"I believe I have set up the BIOS and USB correctly for accepting a UEFI x64 OS Install"
As you have done so much work re UEFI, try the opposite setting.

How to Disable UEFI and Enable Legacy/CSM Boot Support
http://www.top-password.com/knowled...


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#9
May 5, 2017 at 04:48:40
I'm not at all au-fait (knowledgeable) with UEFI and its vagueries etc. I'll leave John w To guide you on that lot...

Th Medion Idiot's Guide/Manual does offer this routine for recovery routines:

If you have forgotten the Windows password for your device, you can also restore the notebook from the login screen after rebooting the device. To do this, hold down the Shift key while on the login screen and then select Power > Restart in the bottom right. After rebooting the device, select Troubleshoot > Reset this PC.

I'm just a wondering - "if" - you the recovery partition is still there; although I note you say you did remove all partitions...

Quite why you're having the problem with 64bit instal etc. - is beyond me.. I will watch and follow this discussion with interest; as it will be a useful learning curve...


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#10
May 5, 2017 at 07:43:54
@JohnW

Hello, I have just tried to copy what the link showed to do, but unfortunately it only takes me to my normal BIOS screen that I showed you earlier and I have no option to enable or disable CSM/Legacy mode. It does note at the bottom of the page that not all UEFI pc's will have the compatibility to do so.

I have however just noticed that on the MS Media Creator tool, it does give me the option of which Architecture to use, there are 3 options, x86.x64 and 'both' so I am going to try using the both option and see whether upon boot it will allow me to select either a x64 or x86 installation, not sure if it will work but its something new I hadn't noticed before.

Thank you.

@trvlr

Yes I have triple checked all the partitions and I did in fact delete them all completely and now only have access to the restore/reset partition that was created when installing this latest version of windows (Win10 Pro x86) which wouldn't benefit me unless something went wrong with this installation.
Re: Former post... Yes I do maintain a collection of various sized USB sticks including a 1TB USB-HDD but it is a bit cumbersome and defeats the point of having a small lightweight laptop if I have to carry extra bits and bobs with me everywhere in order to use it. Before this I had a Sandisk Ultra MicroSD 32GB and it fits in flush to the laptop and acts as fast as the built in HDD, the USB are only v2.0 so not quick enough to keep a game or programme on something USB and have it run with any particular speed.

Thank you.


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#11
May 5, 2017 at 09:44:10
I agree the pain/nuisance of carrying assorted usb adapters is to be avoided if at al possible...

This post is indeed becoming "edukayshunonal..."


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#12
May 5, 2017 at 12:31:44
Hello,

I have an interesting development...

I used the Windows Media Creator tool and used the 'both' option as I explained earlier. It did indeed come up with an option upon boot to install either x86 or x64. I selected the x64 installation, obviously, but was then met with an error stating it couldn't not find a specific .efi file in my computer? Also stating that my PC does not have an x64 bit processor (although by now we all now it does have a 64bit processor) so not too sure what it's problem is this time.

I have checked the directory myself and it does in fact contain the file which the installation says it could not find? I am assuming that the Media Creator Tool is has created an 'update' rather than a fresh install otherwise it wouldn't be looking for any files on the HDD whatsoever?

However I am further now than I have managed to get before so at least it's a step in the right direction. Unless you guys have any better suggestions I think my next step is to source a fresh install version of Win10 x64 but try to keep the Windows Media Creator .efi boot files and see if by some magic I can trick it into installing x64 for me... Whether it'll work or not we will soon find out.

http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?i...

Thank you for all your help, I really appreciate it. I will inform you of the outcome shortly hopefully I will be able to sort this as it really is a headache, I am just the sort that cant let this beat me lol.

Thank you.


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#13
May 5, 2017 at 13:31:56
As you have a legit/legal win-10 key (and almost certainly an OEM key) you can use any copy of win-10 as long as it's an OEM.. You can't mix retail and OEM keys and software; retail only works with retail windows, and OEM with OEM windows.

I think I'm correct that MS have a dowload location, access to which is allowed as long as you have a currently valid key. Equally if you a chum who has an OEM disk, ask to borrow it? Ideally make a copy - even two... Keep it/them safe of course, and perhaps label it/them with your key.

Likely you will need to secure/download some drivers from Medion site, as win-10 probably have everything specific tour laptop.

Possibly others here can/will point you to the MS download site?


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#14
May 5, 2017 at 16:49:40
When you used Rufus, did you > Select the GPT partition scheme for UEFI computers?

Here is more info about MBR & GPT, I know it says W8, but it should steer you in the right direction.
https://www.winhelp.us/repair-your-...
Windows Setup: Installing using the MBR or GPT partition style
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...

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#15
May 7, 2017 at 05:34:04
Chiming in late....

Being that your system only has 2GB RAM & that's the max supported, I would think Windows x86 would be preferred. Besides minimal RAM, the processor is weak & the storage is minimal too. It came with Win10 Home x86 pre-installed for a reason.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel...

The minimum recommended RAM for 32-bit is 1GB; for 64-bit, it's 2GB. What do you hope to gain by installing Win10 Pro x64? Performance will suffer.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/win...

What hardware do you have that requires 64-bit drivers? The drivers offered by Medion are all 32-bit, except WiFi/Bluetooth.

https://www.medion.com/gb/service/_...

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