Solved How to get z31n assus notebook to boot up without using xp ?

April 26, 2012 at 12:12:00
Specs: Windows xp pro
Now that I got my z31n notebook working with a wireless adaptor, I would like to make my machine boot without the xp disk. I have been to bios and tried to change the order but no luck. I need step by step info on how to do this because I am not a educated geek. Also, I went to download asus drivers and the BIOS utilities section said do not download this driver??

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April 26, 2012 at 14:07:52
You'll probab;y need to perform a fresh install of XP to fix the problem of not booting into Windows without the XP CD.

Now, about the warning on the Asus website "Do not download this driver" in the BIOS Utilities section. I've tried both download options:
Global (DLM) - This includes a download manager which isn't essential.
Global - No download manager, just normal downloading.

I do not get any warning at all so I can't help you with that. If you were using the Global (DLM) download option, i suggest you try the other other option instead.

The downloads I'm referring to (the ones I tried) were for the Asus Z31N running Windows XP same as yours.

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April 26, 2012 at 15:25:44
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I'm assuming your CD or DVD drive works fine.
If it doesn't or it's missing, see the last part of this post.

If you have video while booting and can get into the bios Setup, your computer's mboard IS booting fine, but it may not be loading XP from the hard drive properly

What is (are) your problem(s) with the XP installation already on the notebook ?

If the computer isn't booting Windows from the hard drive....

Your problem can be caused by....
- you don't have the network boot option in the correct place in the Boot Order or similar settings in the bios Setup

- you DO have that set correctly but
- the bios is not detecting your hard drive at all
- or - the bios is detecting the hard drive but it's not finding that it's bootable (has an operating system installed on it)

Also - reasons why your hard drive may not be detected as bootable by the bios.

See Response 1:

Test your hard drive

Check your hard drive with the manufacturer's diagnostics.
See the latter part of response 1 in this:

If you don't have a floppy drive, you can get a CD image diagnostic utility from most hard drive manufacturer's web sites, but obviously you would need to make a burned CD, preferably a CD-R for best compatibility, on another computer if you need to.

Seagate's Seatools will test (almost) any brand of hard drive.
Do the long test.

The bootable Dos versions of SeaTools can be used even if Windows is not working properly.

If the hard drive itself tests okay, any data problems found can be fixed, one way or another.

If the hard drive itself DOES NOT test as okay, you need to replace it.

If the hard drive itself tests okay....

If you can set your Boot Order or similar settings in the bios correctly to boot the computer from a USB drive (you need to be able to list a USB drive, or if that's not there a removable drive may work, before your hard drive and bootable network adapter).....

Search on the web for something such as: Install XP Home (or Pro) from a flash drive.
That will tell you how to make the flash drive bootable and what you need to have on the flsh drive in order to be able to install XP on yoiur notebook.
You will need an OEM XP CD for the same version of Windows - Home or Pro - that is the same as on the official Microsoft sticker that's on the outside of your notebook's case - it's usually on the bottom of it.
A Microsoft OEM XP CD has "For distribution with a new PC only." and the Microsoft holograms on it.

OR - order the Recovery disk set from the brand name computer's web site.

If they no longer have that....
There are a small number of web sites where you can buy Recovery or Restore disk sets for your specific brand name model

Try here:

In either case, it's relatively cheap to buy.

I'm assuming your CD or DVD drive works fine.
If it doesn't or it's missing, the easiest way to install XP from scratch or to run the Repair installation of Windows procedure from an XP CD, or to install the Recovery disks for your model, by using a built in CD or DVD drive.
In most cases, you can buy a new CD or DVD drive on the web for your model for a reasonable price, or if not, you can probably find a working used one.

In most if not all cases, you CANNOT install Windows from a regular XP CD in a USB optical (CD or DVD) drive because the initial files loaded from the CD CANNOT recognize the model of the USB optical drive you're using. In that case, the CD is recognized as bootable if your Boot Order or similar settings in the bios are set correctly (you need to be able to list a USB drive, or if that's not there a removable drive may work, before your hard drive and bootable network adapter), but all you see when the XP CD loads is a blue screen and nothing further happens.

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May 5, 2012 at 06:33:51
I want to thank tubesandwires and phill22 for their detailed responses. It was the boot order that was the problem. I ,also, didn't know that there was a difference in the downloads from ASUS. That could explain these messages about don't download. This is why, Toms Guide is an excellent site to get advice. Tough to say who is best but I have to go with tubesand wires because that's how the problem got fixed.

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May 5, 2012 at 07:47:53
Thanks for the thank.

Flashing the bios IS NOT a cure-all !

It makes NO SENSE AT ALL to flash the bios if the computer's cpu has not been changed and the computer worked fine previously with the bios version it already had !

Pages on the web for the maker of your brand name system or your desktop mboard that have bios updates WARN you that you should NOT update your bios version unless there's no other way of fixing the problem you have.

Changing the bios version by flashing the bios is the riskiest thing you can do with a computer ! If something goes wrong while flashing the bios, or if the flash chip physically fails while flashing, or if you have used a bios update for the wrong mboard or the wrong version of the mboard, you can end up with a mboard that will not boot at all after you have flashed the bios !.

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May 5, 2012 at 14:21:45
I don't know what "flashin the bios" means. I do know that when I changed the order of the boot up, the notebook booted up without the microsoft xp disk. It continues to work fine I turn it off, turn it back on and it boots up. i have put the xp disk back in its storage space until the next disaster. TNX.

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May 6, 2012 at 07:21:56
The info in response 4 was regarding you saying in the first post...

"Also, I went to download asus drivers and the BIOS utilities section said do not download this driver??"

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May 8, 2012 at 07:19:13
The only thing that I can figure is, I was using Win 7 to download an XP file. I did not get that message when I used an xp computer...go figure.

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May 8, 2012 at 08:25:56
You didn't supply exact detailed info about what you did and what the exact message was, so I can only guess what you saw and why you saw it.

Other than the info on the Asus bios updates page warning you to NOT flash your bios / change your bios unless you MUST...

Bios updates themselves are not operating system specific. However, bios update downloads often come with a flash utility, and it may come with a flash utility program that IS operating system specific.

Some web sites have software running in the background that automatically detects which operating system the computer that is accessing the web site is using.
- on some web pages, if you choose a software download that was not meant to be installed on the operating system that software has detected, you are warned that it is not meant for use with the operating system the software detected . If you're downloading it for use on another operating system that IS the proper one the software was intended for, you can ignore that warning.

- some web pages will alter what you see on a web page because of that software detecting the operating system the computer is using in the background.
E.g. there are many web pages on the Microsoft web site that will insert a line near the beginning of the text on the page telling you that the software, or the information in the article, was not meant to be used for the operating system the software detected.

On the Asus web sites, you are required to choose the operating system you are using (on the computer you want the downloads for, not necessarily the operating system on the computer you are using at the time) before you are shown the software downloads that are available for that operating system for your specific motherboard model, or for your specfic Asus computer if there's more than one operating system version it could have had on it.

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May 8, 2012 at 09:35:36
Thanks and I appreciate the instruction. I have no training in computers except for OJT. I have issues and I try to figure them out and develope a pool of knowledge so when the next disater happens, I can fall back on previous knowledge before I pleed for help. Ooops, here comes the next disaster concering a frozen Intellimouse...stay tuned...

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May 8, 2012 at 11:52:24
It's not a matter of whether you've taken computer related courses, necessarily - it's a matter of whether you're willing to learn about the operating system and how to fix problems with computers, and/or continue to learn about those things.

I have no had no formal training regarding computers, but I've been fixing problems with them on my computer(s) and many other people's computers - mostly those of friends and relatives - since our family got our first computer in 1989.
I've been answering topics about finding information about computers or software for devices for computers or other problems with computers online since about 2002, on this web site since about 2005, and from doing that I've learned a lot.
Whatever I haven't already experienced about a problem myself or haven't already learned about and know how to fix, I look up on the web by searching for appropriate info.
There's a lot of info in the Help and Support in Windows itself, and on the Microsoft web site, and elsewhere on the web.

In general, mice do not stand up well to being dropped, especially if it's been dropped onto a hard surface. Wireless mice are even more likely to be damaged, sooner, from that.

If it's a wireless mouse,
- the battery (batteries) inside of it must have a sufficient voltage.
- for some wireless mice, the cursor will stop moving after some period of activity of not using the mouse, or of not using the buttons on the mouse, to prevent the battery (batteries) from being used when they don't have to be. E.g. one model I know of requires that you need to press on one of the mouse buttons you normally use on the top of the mouse when the cursor stops moving
- other mice may have a small button elsewhere on the mouse you must press.

If the Intellimouse has a cord on the mouse, problems caused by wires being broken inside the cord are COMMON, after the mouse has been used a lot, or at any time if the cord has been yanked on. Usually the wires are broken inside the cord near where it enters the mouse - sometimes the wires are broken near it's plug on the end of the cord (DO NOT pull on the cord to unplug it - pull on the plug). The smaller the diameter of the cord, the sooner you're likely to have broken wires inside of it. If the insulation for a broken wire is intact, the mouse MAY work fine when the cord is in certain positions near where a wire is broken, NOT work fine when the cord is in other positions. The cursor may not move, or it may jump all over the place, or move horizontally but not vertically or visa versa.

If the cord has one or more broken wires, or if the mouse has been damaged otherwise, it will produce the same symptoms, if not right away, eventually, with any computer.

Similar applies to corded keyboards.

Try a different mouse

If you're using an OLD Intellimouse that has a ball inside of it, remove the "door" on the bottom of the mouse and remove any accumulated crap that's stuck to the three rollers inside the mouse that that ball touches.

Software problems in Windows can cause the cursor to not move, but that's relatively rare. In that case, if it's plugged into a USB port, usually if you unplug the mouse and plug it in again the cursor will then move.

If it's plugged into a PS/2 port, PS/2 connections are NOT "hot pluggable" .
You have to Restart Windows, one way or another.
If you have a really old Intellimouse it may be plugged into a serial port. Serial port connections for a mouse are somewhat "hot pluggable" - but it may NOT work to unplug it and plug it in until you have Restarted the computer.

For XP and 2000, an alternative when the cursor won't move but the keyboard works -
hold down Alt and Ctrl, press Del, let go of all three keys.
Hold down Alt, press U, let go of both keys.
Press R to Restart the computer, or press U to Turn off the computer.

In both cases Windows will shut down properly.

For most computers, if you hold the power button in or down for up to about 4 seconds, the mboard will shut off.
Make sure the PS/2 mouse's (or keyboard's cord's plug is all the way into it's port, or the serial connected mouse's plug is all the way into it's port, before you press the power button.
For XP, CHKDSK may want to run when you start up Windows after that - let it run - usually it won't find any problems, but sometimes shutting down Windows that way does cause data to be damaged. .

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