help please to choose an agp graphic card

December 16, 2010 at 04:48:57
Specs: Windows xp 32 bits sp2, pentium 4 1,8Ghz /2Gb
Please help me, I have an old pc pentium 4 with the motherboard: asus P4B533-E(Intel pentium 4 1,8 Ghz, socket 478 for Intel, fsb :533/400 mhz and 2gb Ram Kingston ) who supports 1 agp Pro (1,5V only) agp 4X.
I have a power source of 500w and i want to buy a new graphic card with Direct X10 and pixel shader 4.1 for games. I saw some like gigabyte :Gigabyte Radeon HD 4650 AGP 8x R465D2-1GI , asus :Asus Radeon HD 4650 AGP 1GB DDR2 or from sapphire: Sapphire HD 4650 AGP 8X 1024MB DDR2 128bit SPHHD4650HT1G. I am not sure if are compatible with my motherboard as all are agp 8X. Can you help me with an advice? Can i use the video card asus hd 4650 agp 8x -for example -in my agp x4(1,5 V only) slot without burning her?
Thank you very much for any advice. I have a new pc too but i want to repair the old one also and play with my kid games in our lan ;))

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#1
December 16, 2010 at 05:00:33
if it says ur agp is x4 i doubt u will be able to run the x8
the best agp card i can give u is this one
http://www1.sapphiretech.com/id/pro...

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#2
December 16, 2010 at 05:19:59
Thank you for the link :).Indeed my motherboard is agp 4 x . I found on sapphire site for 4650 radeon agp the specifications that can be used with an agp 4x bus interface. Please check this link :
http://www.sapphiretech.com/present...
What do you think this one can work? And if it goog for sapphire is not maybe also good for the same chipset 4650 of gygabyte or asus? I do not have experience :)

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#3
December 16, 2010 at 05:20:33
XP doesn't support DX10 & according to Microsoft, it never will. So unless you plan on upgrading to Win7 on that old system, you don't have to get a DX10 card. Also, there have been a lot of driver issues with newer AGP cards. I don't know if they've been corrected yet or not. AGP 8X cards are backwards compatible with AGP 4X so that's not an issue.

Here's an HD 4650 that uses 512MB DDR3 memory. It should be considerably faster than a card with 1GB DDR2 memory.

http://www.diamondmm.com/4650512A.php

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...

The X1950 Pro posted by kuwese toxict51 is probably the best DX9 AGP card you'll find, if you can find it. It's faster HD 4650 w/DDR2 & just slightly behind the HD 4650 w/DDR3, but it only supports shader 3.0.

Here's an HIS HD 4650 with 1GB GDDR3:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#4
December 16, 2010 at 05:35:01
haha miqlick kuwese did not post the earlier post i did haha ;)thx anyways
i posted the x1950 pro since he did not mention going to win 7 so i gave him the best agp dx9 there is if u are gunna go with win 7 then yea go with the HD 4650 512MB ddr3 ;)
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#5
December 16, 2010 at 05:37:56
You need to exercise care when selecting an AGP 8X card. Not all will work in a 4X slot as the 8X runs a 0.8V whereas your 4X slot is 1.5V. Some 8X cards can step down to 4X but not all. I have doubts that any compliant with DirectX 10 will step down to 4X If you want better gaming performance it is time for a full system upgrade.

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#6
December 16, 2010 at 05:46:42
Looks like the Sapphire is 4X/8X compatible. I have just ordered the Gigabyte version and there is nothing in the specs or manual to indicate it is 4X compliant so in your case I would suggest go with the sapphire.

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#7
December 16, 2010 at 05:53:27
"haha miqlick kuwese did not post the earlier post i did haha"

Sorry about that. Correction has been made.


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#8
December 16, 2010 at 06:26:34
Thank you all for helping me. Indeed HIS Radeon HD4650 1GB 128bit DDR3 AGP is the best solution to make the old pc run again. I can use any kind of operating system so i think (after your advices) i will upgrade this one to vista x32 bits. Anyway is the last upgrade for such system. I have another intel core2quad pc running winows7x64 bits that i use now. The pentium 4 is only for an 10 years old kid to play games and to learn all about pc :) Searching around internet i found a very good page with all agp specifications you can imagine. I will post here the link hoping that will help others like they helped me:
http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpco...
Thank you again and Merry Christmas to all

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#9
December 16, 2010 at 08:33:46
U have weak cpu, u won't see true power of hd 4650 + even with hd 4670 AGP u won't be able to play newer games well. I recommend 7300gt or radeon x1650 pro.

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#10
December 16, 2010 at 10:38:22
I'm running a 512MB x1950Pro AGP on a PIII system myself. Works just great, even overclocked! AVOID the Radeon HD 2000/3000/4000 agp cards--they're nothing but trouble.

If you can't find an x1950 Pro for less than $80, just search for older NVidia cards on eBay. All nVidia AGP cards work great on older boards--for a while I had a GeForce 7950GT AGP running flawlessly on the old PIII board. You should be able to find lots of cheap 7600GS/GT boards on eBay.

"i will upgrade this one to vista x32 bits"

Unless you have a Vista DVD waiting to be installed, get Windows 7 instead. Sure, its official system requirements are slightly higher than Vista's, but that's just Microsoft being careful. In reality Win7 runs faster than Vista on old school systems. Sometimes much faster.

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