Graphic Card Issue

LanParty.NF4.SLI-DR
November 10, 2008 at 22:58:56
Specs: WinXP.Pro.SP2, A64@2.4/2GB DDR 3200
I've poured forum after forum and I can't find a solution. The problem is getting this ASUS ATI EAX300 256MB PCI-EX16 card to start. I've disabled the Nvidia card in device mgr and rebooted. Nothing. Ive had to clear the bios, unplug the power, and actually remove the mb battery, and re-insert the card. I've even just tried to boot with minimum hardware and no dice. There is not an option in my BiOS to disable onboard vga. This MB does not come with onboard vga. The chipsets are all nVidia but I've read that should not be a problem at all. I tried running in Vista and it would not start either, however at one point it showed up in Device Mgr as ASUS OTHER DEVICE which would not let me upgrade drivers. At another point in Vista it showed EIO for the card. I've finally decided to keep trying on XP but since it wont even load for bios I don't know what to do. ATI Catalyst drivers will not install since they do not find the hardware either. There is one other PCI-E on this board but it is only up to x2. I cant find anymore info on settings for this mb with single vgas. One thing I have not done is check the card on a different pc due to pci-e function not being avail on extra pc. Any other ideas? I have seriously been working on this for 2 days straight. Im wrecked.

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#1
November 11, 2008 at 06:18:41
"I've disabled the Nvidia card in device mgr and rebooted"

What nVidia card are you referring to? Since you have an ATI card, you'll have to remove the nVidia card & uninstall the drivers before installing the ATI card & Catalyst drivers. You do NOT have to disable anything in Device Manager. In fact, you screwed yourself by doing so. See if you can boot into safe mode & re-enable it. Then uninstall it the right way.

The EAX300 is an extremely low end card. Considering the rest of your specs, why are you even bothering with such a weak card? Apparently gaming performance isn't a concern?

"There is one other PCI-E on this board but it is only up to x2"

If you're asking about the LANParty, it has two PCIe x16 slots but you can NOT mix ATI & nVidia cards.

"If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions" - Jules Winnfield (Samuel L. Jackson) in Pulp Fiction


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#2
November 11, 2008 at 07:09:44
I need to use a graphics card to be able to get video. There isn't an onboard vga. If I boot with the Ati, the screen is blank. Windows boots but I'm without video. I've decided to replace the current Nvidia card that I'm forced to use since it is only 4MB. The reason I'm insisting on proceeding with this Ati is for simple graphics upgrade. I am not even bothering with gaming without a dual-core processor, at least not yet. If I uninstall the current card, the Ati will still not work at boot up. So, Im stuck with having to use the Nvidia all over again. Ati does not even show in device manager and Catalyst won't find hardware.

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#3
November 11, 2008 at 07:55:58
Your explanation isn't making sense.

1st of all, you do NOT need a dual core CPU for gaming. Besides, S939 X2 CPUs have become so expensive it's probably not even worth the investment. 2nd, if your nVidia card only has 4MB memory (which I find unlikely), it must be a standard PCI card, not PCIe. And why do you keep mentioning onboard video? Your board doesn't have it so it's a moot point. 3rd, is the motherboard you're working with the LANParty SLi? Since it has two PCIe x16 slots & you're only gonna use one card, you have to use the correct slot. Try reading your manual.

It's a shame to see such a high performance board go to waste on someone who has no idea how to use it.

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#4
November 11, 2008 at 08:30:58
Jam, I'd like to thank you for being the only one replying. Let me clear things up for you. I KNOW a dual-core isn't NECESSARY for gaming. I just expressed my own interests of what hardware I'd like to go with should I want to do gaming later. I have two graphics cards. One Nvidia PCI. One ATi PCIEx16. You are right, I was mistaken on the Nvidia cards specs. It is an Nvidia Riva TNT2 Mod 64. Is is 16mb. My motherboard is LanParty nF4 SLI-DR which is first generation and IMO outdated. Thanks for criticizing instead of being more helpful. Makes people new on here feel really welcomed.

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#5
November 11, 2008 at 08:58:18
Sorry, but if you would have explained yourself clearly to begin with, we wouldn't have to go thru all this.

Your board is one of the hottest boards that was available for the S939 platform. I don't know why you'd be running a standard PCI card with it but that's your business. And why you would bother with a low end X300 is also your business.

There was no reason to remove the nVidia card from Device Manager...all you needed to do was uninstall the nVidia driver, then shutdown & remove the card. Do NOT try to run both at the same time. Install the ATI card in the correct PCIe x16 slot (check your manual), then bootup & install the ATI drivers -- DONE!

If that doesn't work, are you sure the X300 is a working card?

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#6
November 11, 2008 at 10:35:00
I will be testing it later today on a different system. I got it at a local comp shop from a buddy of mine. We both assumed it was working when I brought it home. It may very well be a faulty card. However, let's say I've confirmed this ATi card works, what other options am I looking at as far as trouble shooting? I just want to make sure I've covered everything before investing more time into getting another card.

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#7
November 11, 2008 at 13:56:02
This is the same thing as jam was writing, but to emphasize the correct procedure for changing out video cards. The FIRST thing you have to do is change the current driver for the existing card. It needs to be changed to a generic driver which will work with the card that is being replaced and the new card. The safest choice is just plain old VGA. That is a driver that will work with any video card. Both of the cards you have will also work with generic VESA drivers (VESA 2.0), but VGA is still the safe bet. This will also change the Windows display settings to 640x480 16-color and everything will look ugly. Then, shut down the computer and REMOVE the old card and install the new card (as jam mentioned, it's good to check the motherboard manual about installing video cards, there are often specfic slots designated for this). With the computer all hooked up to use the new card, turn on the power and look for the POST start up screen. If it doesn't come on, then stop the booting. If the computer's BIOS didn't find the video card, there is NO WAY Windows will find it. There is no reason to try booting Windows until you can see the BIOS start up. If the BIOS POST comes up okay, then let Windows start. It will start up with the generic driver (VGA) and you can then go to device manager and upgrade to the correct driver for the new card.


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#8
January 20, 2009 at 19:16:59
any thoughts on a dual ati HD3450 Crossfire x setup?. I have installed the cards and driver but when booted up they wouldnt even play duesex invisible war, pitiful i know but the fact is i updated all drivers and tried increasing wattage to the pci-e x16 lanes keeping within the 12v rail limit. Still nothing . i have recently upgraded to a single ASUS EN9500GT TOP and beautiful. i am running a AMD 5400+ 2.8Ghz Processor and an ASUS M3A32MVP Deluxe with 6 gig 1066DDR2 Ram and windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit Beta testing of course.

thing is both ati cards would not work with vista in crossfire for gaming movies amazing quality But Games just shut down after the title screen all except for counterstrike source.....Plz hlp i really dont want these two ati cards sitting around and colleting dust for the next six months


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#9
January 20, 2009 at 19:20:05
oh and i did forget to put in that the M3A32Mvp Deluxe is my mobo

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