Graphic card info on a stock emachine w3507

January 16, 2011 at 06:10:08
Specs: Windows XP, celeron D, 512 ram
I am trying to find a good but cheap video card for my emachine w3507 it has the max ram witch is 2gig and nothing else i was wondering what graphic card i can use for my machine can i use a EVGA GeForce 8400 GS 512MB DDR2 PCI-E Graphics Card or will my computer not let it run... Please help me... Im not to computer smart so please dont be rude or a smarty pants about it. Ive been workin on this emachine for a few months and finely got her going after i replaced the motherboard new programs its runnin windows xp and i dont plan on changing it just want it to run faster... Thanks alot for looking and my question...

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January 16, 2011 at 06:30:54
The specs on your machine indicate that it can use a pci-e card. Which card depends on the specs of your power supply. The 8400 requires a 350 watt psu with 18 amps on the +12 volt rail;. Open your case and read the label on your psu. What are the ratings on the +12 volt rail?

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January 16, 2011 at 07:01:06
u can run it due to its low power. any pc can run this card.
to be sure wut are the specs of ur psu?

computers are a second home

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January 16, 2011 at 08:09:49
Assuming the new board was identical to the old board, here's your system specs:

I can understand wanting to get away from the onboard video, but do you want a video card for gaming or just a general upgrade? The 8400GS is NOT a gaming card. eMachines are not known for their good power supplies. They generally use low end Bestec units which have a high failure rate. Your's is probably a 300W unit with 15A on the +12v rail. This should be it:

If you want to protect your system & be able to run a decent video card, replace the power supply. You don't necessarily need to spend a fortune, but you should plan on spending at least $30-40. Here's a couple good deals at, both ship for free & have 5 yr warranties:

Thermaltake TR2 430W - $25 after rebate & promo code

Thermaltake TR2 500W - $29 after rebate & promo code

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January 16, 2011 at 08:15:03
Here's a couple of lower end gaming cards that aren't power hogs, both ship for free:

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 - $34 after rebate

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 - $45 after rebate

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January 16, 2011 at 08:56:48
the video cards posted by miqlick are perfect for mainstream gaming they are in fact mainstream cards. i believe they 5x better than the one u have now so go by the HD 4670

computers are a second home

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January 16, 2011 at 11:29:16
"Assuming the new board was identical to the old board...."
This is probably your mboard.
IntelĀ® D102GGC2 (Grant County2) Mainboard
Unofficial info

".....just want it to run faster..."

Adding a graphics card will improve the video performance, and your same ram amount will perform better when a program benefits from a better ram max data transfer rate because the mboard will no longer be sharing the ram installed in the mboard with the onboard video, but that and adding more ram, if that's possible, won't make your computer significantly faster.

If you really want it to run faster, get and install a faster cpu. You can probably find working used ones on the web.

There is info on the left at that web page that tells you which specific (Sxxx) cpus work with it, depending on the bios version you have.

Your power supply must have at least the minimum capacity required to support a system with the graphics card you are using installed, or the max graphics card you might install in the future.
(Onboard video - video built into the mboard - IS NOT A CARD ! )
If that info is not in the ad for the video card, you can go to the video card maker's web site and look up the specs for the model - often under system requirements - the minimum PS wattage, and, more important, the minimum amperage the PS must supply at 12v is stated. If you don't find that, any card with the same video chipset including any letters after the model number has very similar minimum PS requirements. Some power supplies have two or more +12v ratings - in that case, add those ratings to determine the total +12v current capacity.

If you're a gamer...
In most if not all cases, the max capacity rating of the PS is an intermittent rating. It's recommended that you do not load your PS to any more that 80% of that rating if you are going to be using something that puts a constant load on it, such as playing a recent game for hours on end. In that case, you multiply the min capacity stated for the system with the particular video chipset on the card by 1.25 to find the min. capacity of the PS you should get.

If you need to get a PS with more capacity, you can usually replace it with any decent quality standard sized standard ATX PS.

Standard (PS/2) power supply size - 86mm high, 150mm wide, 140mm deep, or 3 3/8" h x 5 7/8" w x 5 1/2" d , or very close to that, though the depth can be more or less for some PSs.

Don't buy an el-cheapo PS.
See response 3 in this:

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January 16, 2011 at 13:46:33
300 watt max output is what the psu says. What do you think i should use. i do not play games just trying to upgrade for more speed and maybe some you tube but other then that jus normal us.

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January 16, 2011 at 13:48:10
The ratings are 300 watt max. So i cant use that card? what do you think would be a good cheap card? the computer isnt worth jack thats why im trying to stay cheap.

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January 16, 2011 at 13:51:13
I dont do much gamin on the pc we burn dvd, music and general surfin the web..

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January 16, 2011 at 15:32:17

According to the power requirements on this card, it should work. The radeon hd5450. No guarantees. 300 watt psu is close. Once again, it's the amps on the 12 volt rail that count. You may want to consider upgrading the psu. That would open up many new possibilities on a card.

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January 16, 2011 at 16:17:52
Your computer probably has a BESTEC power supply, if it's the original one.
If that's what it is, I STRONGLY advise to to GET A DIFFERENT BRAND of power supply !

BESTEC power supplies malfunctioning or failing completely are the NUMBER ONE reason emachines desktop computers fail to boot, and when they do that, they are MUCH more likely than average to damage something else - often they fry the mboard !
There are probably over a hundred Topics on this web site alone about a BESTEC power supply having malfunctioned or failed completely on an emachines desktop computer, and the computer won't boot normally. Sometimes they have replaced the power supply and the system still won't boot normally !

Stressing the 300 watt BESTEC power supply by installing a card that has a video chipset that when it's on the system loads it to 100% of it's wattage capacity, or nearly so, is MUCH more likely than average to make a BESTEC power supply malfunction or fail completely, and you may end up with a fried mboard when that happens !

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January 16, 2011 at 17:14:55
Sweet that helps alot now for the faster cpu outta those three that a ok to put in my emachine witch one do u think would be faster ive heard there all good but one of em has to be faster then the others... Please let me know...Thanks

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January 16, 2011 at 17:27:11
I found all of the cpus listed for this motherboard heres my othere question whats the SL8CP mean what do i need to be lookin for IntelĀ® Pentium D 2.80Ghz SL8CP LGA775 Processor CPU can you just tell me what one will be the best for speed im all lost i know how to replace everything just dont know the book smart about pc thanks you so much for all your help...

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January 16, 2011 at 17:38:16
This is the video card i bought its right at 300watt i hope it will work i got a good deal on it 20 bucks but it doesnt have the install software the cd its sopposed to come with but i think my windows wizard will pick it up if not ill look online for something or send it back let me know what you think...

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January 16, 2011 at 19:07:14
Replace the power supply !

The Sxxx designation is unique to one Intel CPU part number. Since the CPU part numbers are not quoted and there is nowhere to look those up for OEM only mboards - mboards used only in brand name systems that there is no retail model of - and there is very little info to be found about which brand name system bios version supports which cpu unless you find a list of ones known to work fine, if you search the web using the Sxxx designation you will find the right cpus - if you search using only other specs you may buy a CPU that can't be used with the mboard .
You must also pay attention to the minimum bios version that is required.

I'm no expert regarding more recent Intel CPUs, or recent cpus in general, so I don't know which are the best choices, but obviously a faster cpu of the same type is better, a Pentium is better than a Celeron of the same type, etc., etc.

Most people do not have any programs that can use more than one cpu core (or for older mboards, more than one cpu), other than possibly recent games, and even then there are few if any than can use more than two cores, and very few if any that can use more than one unless they're using Vista , Windows 7, or a server operating system.

In November of 2008 a friend asked me to choose a good ATI PCI-E X16 card for them.

After consulting this list:
Comparison of ATI graphics processing units

I made this list, with my ranking of them:

core clock / memory clk /bandwidth /video ram /core config (# unified shaders)/ bandwidth rating
2400XT 700mhz 800mhz 12.8gb/sec 40 * 15
2600pro 600 700 22.4 120 * 12
2600XT 800 900 35.2 120 * 9
2900GT 600 800 51.2 240 * 8
2900pro 600 800 105.6 512mb 320 * 3 (tie)
2900pro 600 1000 128 1024mb 320 * best (tie)
2900XT 743 825 105.6 512mb 320 * 3 (tie) see note below
2900XT 743 1000 128 1024mb 320 * best (tie) see note below
3470 800 950 15.2 40 * 14 (tie)
3650 725 800 25.6 120 * 11 (tie)
3690/ 666 828 25.6 320 * 11 (tie)
3850 666 828 53 320 * 7
3870 775 900 57.6 320 * 6
3870XT 775 1125 72 320 * 4
4470 800 15.2 800 * 14 (tie)
4650 600 667 21.3 667 * 13
4670 750 1000 32 1000 * 10
4850 625 883 63.5 993 * 5
4870 750 900 115.2 900 * 2

The Radeon HD 2900 XT runs at different clock frequencies in each of its two operating modes, 2D and 3D, while for Radeon HD 3000 series, as implemented the ATI PowerPlay technology, the clock frequencies may vary in different usage scenarios......

I included the video ram rating (the ones with 512mb or 1024mb) only for the ones where there was more bandwidth with more video ram.

The bandwidth - the figure in the 4th column - in each line - the max data transfer rate in gbps - is the most important rating in my view - it determines the maximum frames per second more than anything else.

I chose the HD 4850, because of a limited time rebate, and because that was about the max he was willing to pay. I got it for $189 plus shipping, minus a $20 mail in rebate.

Note that I rated HD 2400 Pro 12th.
It was considered to be a pretty decent chipset, in 2007 when it was first released.
It was still relatively expensive back then in 2009, not all that much cheaper than the 4850.

Some others.

core clock / memory clk /bandwidth /video ram

1900XT 625 725 46.4
1900XTX 650 775 49.6
1950GT 500 600 38.4
1950Pro 575 690 44.2
1950XT 625 900 57.6 256mb
1950XT 625 800 51.2 512mb
1950XTX 650 1000 64.0

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January 16, 2011 at 22:04:21
ok thanks much i was lookin at a 500 watt BESTEC power supply so dont get it thats a bad brand ok ill look at other brands.. Another problem happend my cpu fan if running real loud i looked in the bios and it was runnin hot the cpu was at 100-101 and the other 2 temps where at 40 they say for a celeron it needs to run at a temp of 70 or so my rpm for the cpu fan is runnin at about 4000 ill have to look at it agian to be sure when i got this emachine w3507 i cracked it open and it was dirty ass heck 1in dust on the bottom i tore into it all cleaned everthing my wife loves it so i said let turn the dell optiplex gx50 in for this oneim gonna upgrade my power supply but i can get that 500 watt for like 30-40 brand new and im not trying to dump alot in this pc its not worth it right??? let me know thanks goodnight buddy

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January 16, 2011 at 22:25:42
How does a 650W ATX Power Supply sound will that mess anything up like motherboard later down the road i might wanna creat my own computer build it from ground up but is this a good power supply that wont hurt my emachine and run for a while i have 2gig ram now waitin for the video card an need a suggestion on the cpu and fan speed. I dont do much gamin online beside farmville on face book so i wouldnt need to good of a video card but with this big power supply i can always up grade bigger.. let me know what you think thanks very very much..

i just checked my cpu temp and its at 103 and the other 2 are at 36 i hope i dont have a big problem let me know thanks

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January 17, 2011 at 08:16:21
A decent quality power supply isn't necessarily expensive, but el-cheapo in quality power supplies are always cheap to buy.
Mickliq's examples in response 3 are okay, but I have encountered at least one defective Thermaltake power supply.

This link I provided in response 6 tells you what you need to look for to determine whether the PS is decent quality.
Don't buy an el-cheapo (in quality) PS.
See response 3 in this:

I have bought mostly Enermax PSs myself, for my computers and for other people - they cost more, but none of them have malfunctioned - the oldest one of them is about 8 years old.

100 C is way too high for a CPU temp - that's probably hot enough to damage the CPU. Even 70 C is high.
The fins on the heat sink under the cpu fan often become clogged. You often need to remove the cpu fan to clean the heat sink properly.

You can buy aftermarket cpu fans that cool the cpu better locally at places that sell lots of computer parts for an economical price. Or, for a bit more, you can buy a heat sink and fan combo that cools much better, but that requires you to remove the original heat sink from the cpu, which may be difficult.

The proper way....
- you warm up the cpu by letting the computer run for at least a half hour
- shut off the computer, unplug or switch off the AC power to it.
- release the clamps or screws that hold the heat sink onto the cpu / cpu socket / mboard socket
- remove the cpu fan from the top of the heat sink if that applies
- with the case placed so the mboard is horizontal on a firm surface, press directly straight downwards - hard - on the top of the heat sink, and twist the heat sink back and forth until the bond between it and the cpu is broken
- remove the heat sink

- scrape off the remains of the thermal pad or the thermal grease or thermal compound from both the bottom of the heat sink and the top of the cpu.

- the heat sink / fan combo either comes with a new thermal pad which may already be stuck onto the bottom of the heatsink and you remove protective paper or plastic from the exposed side, or it comes with thermal grease or thermal compound which you apply sparingly to the top of the cpu.
- then you place the heat sink ontop of the cpu, such that it's flat ontop of the cpu, and clamp it down, and connect the cpu fan's female wiring connector onto the cpu fan's 3 or 4 pin cpu fan header on the mboard.

"How does a 650W ATX Power Supply sound will that mess anything..."

If you use a power supply that has a capacity that exceeds what you need, that causes no problems at all. If less power is drawn from the power supply, it runs cooler, and it draws less AC current.

"just checked my cpu temp and its at 103"

If that's degrees C, that's way too high, especially after you saying you cleaned up inside the case - that's probably hot enough to damage the CPU.

If that's degrees C, something's wrong.
Did you remove the fan and check to see if the fins on the heat sink are clogged ?
If you did, and/or if the fins aren't clogged, it's likely the bottom of the heat sink is not sitting flat ontop of the cpu.
In that case, you need to obtain cpu thermal grease or thermal compound from a local place, and remove the heat sink from the cpu and install it again properly.
It's recommended that you remove the mboard from the case when you install the heat sink, because it's impossible to visually tell if the heat sink is sitting flat on top of the cpu when the mboard's inside the case, other than when you run the computer the cpu temp gets a lot higher that it should if it isn't sitting flat ontop of the cpu.

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January 17, 2011 at 17:00:04
Ok man thank you so much everything i have learned from you has taken you a lil bit to type thats what i didnt do i cleaned the pc inside and out very good took power supply out motherboared everthing just a shell blew off everything cleaned it all up good as new and i took the sink and fan all off the cpu cleaned the stuff off the bottom but when i put it back together did us that stuff just put it back on but it ran for like a week and all of a sudden the fan started running real fast so i got curious and looked in my bios and found the temp was way to hot and i felt the sink and it wasnt hot i messed up my fault just starting to get into the computer world least i got a cheap class machine to tinker with eventaly i wanna make it fast and greatest video i can do i just got this laptop its a hp dv2000 with a burned up motherboard i already took the laptop aparrt and motherboard out marked everything im gonna order a motherboard and try to put her back together the boards are about 50 to 75 bucks on ebay as a used item ive never had any problems with ording stuff from ebay everthing i have order was what i expected i might be posting something about it here soon if you have any knoladge with laptops i would like you advise thanks agian...

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January 17, 2011 at 22:44:22
By the way, since you removed it, if the cpu fan is ontop of the heat sink, and if it can be installed either way, the cpu fan must blow TOWARDS the heat sink, otherwise it will NOT cool the cpu properly !
You should be able to see the entire blade on the top when it's installed properly - there should be no non moving part in the center !
If the cpu fan is case mounted and not ontop of the cpu, it must blow TOWARDS the heat sink - the blade must face it the opposite way.

If it's installed properly, try re-installing the heat sink.

I know a little about laptops but I've only opened up a few of them.

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