Gaming PC build guidance

September 19, 2012 at 21:39:45
Specs: Windows
Hello everyone.

Below is a list of parts that I'm highly considering buying on newegg to get a fairly decent gaming PC machine as well as a machine for my work, which has customers working mostly with windows environments.

With that said, I would hope for a little feedback on this. I had a friend of mine help me pick out some parts, and I went out and gathered them up, but I just wanted to double check on them. The basic idea is to have a SSD for the OS and with the Windows Ultimate, to be able to run in 32 bit as well, since some of the programs that I would be using for my work related tasks would need to function in 32 bit.

That said, here is the list, please leave comments as they would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model F3-8500CL7Q-16GBRL - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Intel 330 Series Maple Crest SSDSC2CT120A3K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

LG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH24NS90 - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1573-KR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#1
September 19, 2012 at 23:50:30
Just a few things I'd change:

-The GeForce GTX 660 is cheaper, faster, and a heck of a lot more power efficient than the the GTX 570. This one is also overclocked:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

-Why put a locked i7 on such an awesome, tweakable motherboard? With the money you saved on the video card, you can get a multiplier unlocked 3770k. With the unlocked CPU, you should be able to hit around 4.2GHz without increasing the voltage.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

-That high end processor also deserves faster memory. Go with DDR3-1600 instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

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#2
September 20, 2012 at 00:03:29
The ASUS board is expensive take this Asrock board
The ASRock Z77 Pro3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Why 16GB of RAM? Games doesn't use more than 3GB of memory.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Here is a good and cheap case from Rosewill with PSU mounted at top.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Take this WD Caviar Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

I don't see the need of Intel Core i7-3770 for gaming, cheap core i5 or core i3 will do the gaming job fine.
Gaming CPU Hierarchy Chart
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

Core i3-3220
http://www.microcenter.com/product/...

Core i5-3450
http://www.microcenter.com/product/...
Microcenter has better price on CPU's than Newegg

The basic idea is to have a SSD for the OS and with the Windows Ultimate, to be able to run in 32 bit as well, since some of the programs that I would be using for my work related tasks would need to function in 32 bit.
Windows 64-bit run 32-bit software well(except drivers), if there is 64-bit version of your application better use that.

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#3
September 20, 2012 at 05:16:22
You have not given much details on the use for work or the level of gaming you plan on doing or the price range so the difference of opinion on the CPU.
In going with a better motherboard and more expensive CPU, you are saying that performance it important to you. Therefore the overclockable 3770K or the more reasonable 3570K would be a better choice for extreme gaming or running programs that need intensive CPU power. If the gaming is more moderate and the programs are not that CPU intensive, then a less expensive motherboard and CPU is all that is needed and unless you have money to burn, a better choice (most i3 or i5 3xxx series CPU's).
If power and speed are important, the black series hard drive is definitely better and faster, if not, then why the SSD?
Unless you plan on running memory intensive programs that can use that much memory like Photoshop, Autocad, and others), 8GB of memory should be plenty. The faster memory though will be an advantage with any of the faster components you appear to want.
As mentioned, Windows 7 64bit supports 32bit programs. Some older programs may need to be installed under compatibility settings to run though (depending on if they try to violate certain system/memory usage in Windows 7). Really old 32bit programs with 16bit installers are not supported by any version of Windows 7 without a virtual XP machine installed so there is no need to consider a dual installation of Windows 7 including 32bit.

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#4
September 20, 2012 at 07:41:06
First off, thank you all for the suggestions and guidance. It is greatly appreciated.

To help elaborate on my work load or what I intend to be using, a lot of it will be web based SaaS work with Oracle CRMOD.

In addition to that, the basics of Word and Excel will be used frequently. The big thing was just making sure that the 32 bit programs I need to run will be able to run, which I figured, but I wanted to make sure of because I need to use IE8 and an older java version when testing a specific application in 32 bit.

Plus the general usage, movies, music, photos. I also want to keep it opened in case I wanted to expand this machine's usage into photo editing with photoshop cs5 or possible video editing, depending upon if my current laptop can keep up.

As I'm reviewing these specs and I few others, I'll try to put up another build refined and hopefully you folks will have a few moments to review.

Seriously though, this is a lot of help to a newb like me.


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#5
September 20, 2012 at 21:27:32
So before I post a quick refined list, I would also like to mention that I would be interested with this build to be able to do screen records of the games and also look in to creating mods for certain games like Skyrim. That said, here is the updated list:

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

LG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH24NS90 - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-2662-KR GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze W0382RU ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#6
September 21, 2012 at 05:00:47
The power supply has some marginal and bad reviews on Newegg. Look at:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
Don't cheap out on the power supply, it may fail and possibly take out other components with it. The 650 watt models I listed should be enough, but if you want more, I have listed a couple of those as well.

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#7
September 21, 2012 at 07:23:50
Thank you sir, I think the 750 watt one you listed will be one that I will go with, provided the rest of the build looks acceptable for my intended use.

That said, and aside from the power supply, was there any other issues that you could possible foresee here that I did not account for, and thanks again!


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#8
September 21, 2012 at 20:48:39
I would prefer 2x8GB memory rather than 4x4GB since you may run Photoshop. It will give you the option of adding more memory if needed. Look at this set:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
Either way would be fine though.

The case looks good and has eSATA front port except it has only USB2 front ports. If having also USB3 front ports are important to you, consider this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
I know that it has a bottom mounted power supply and many here prefer the traditional top mounted style, but it has the extra top fan so it should be able to get rid of the extra heat. I have a bottom mounted power supply and I flip the power supply over to draw heat from the case rather than through the bottom of the case since I do not trust that it will not be overcome with dust this way or the 'filter' become clogged (a tip I read about online). Originally I did not have the top fan and the temperature was reasonable (overclocked) with a front and rear fan, but it still dropped another 3 degrees C when I added the top fan (never a side fan though). Your choice of course.
Otherwise, looks good.

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#9
September 22, 2012 at 10:15:56
Thanks Fingers. I like the idea of going with the 2x8 and the case, so I'm going to be going with those. What I would consider the "final" build for this as it were is listed below. It's still a pretty good price in my opinion, and I dont really notice any issues here with the combination. My only concern is making sure that not all will this all work well together, but also that there is enough power to everything as well, and that is why there is 750W PSU this time.

In addition to wanting to make mods and do screen captures, I think this setup will do the trick. Once again, any additional input would be great in case there are any more reasonable choices to go with here. Thanks in advance!

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

LG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH24NS90 - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-2662-KR GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Rosewill CHALLENGER-U3 Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ,comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, front mounted dual USB 3.0 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#10
September 22, 2012 at 16:21:17
Looks good.

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