Gaming hardware rating

Acer / ASPIRE
August 5, 2011 at 02:24:06
Specs: Proposed Windows 7, 3.1 GHC i3
Hi all

First of all many thanks for maintaining this useful site!

I am about to buy different parts to build my gaming PC and wanted to ask all of you who are interested to advise me differently should you think so. I want to play most new day games without struggling in terms of frames per second etc. The PC specs suit my budget needs, but should there be plausible backing argument, I am more than willing to go for AMD rather than Intel.

The specs are:

Motherboard: GA-H61M-S2V-B3 GIGABYTE H61M-S2V H61 Express Chipset Motherboard Socket LGA1155

CPU: Intel Core i3 2100 - 3.10GHz Dual Core, Socket 1155, 6MB L3, DMI Bus, 32nm, x64, Intel HT, Intel VT, Intel HD Graphics @ 850MHz

Graphics: Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD6850- 1GB GDDR5, 256-Bit Memory Bus

Memory: 2 x 2GB Kingston DDR3 1333MHZ

PSU: Item_6: GZ-ODIN-370-C2 : GZ-ODIN-370-C2 GIGABYTE® ODIN 370W 24-Pin Power Supply, 2 Molex & 3 SATA Power Connectors, Intel LGA775 Ready & Approved

Screen: SAMSUNG 2333TN SAMSUNG 2333TN LCD - 23 Wide, 16:9 HD Format, 1920x1080, 5ms Response, 50000:1 Contrast Ratio, 300cd/m² Brightness -

CPU Cooler: CC-CV211P Coolermaster Vortex 211P, RR-V211-22FK-R1, low-profile design, aluminium base+fin with 2x HDT copper heat pipes (Heat pipe Direct Touch), rifle bearing 94mm fan, 2200rpm

HDD: Western Digital 800GB, CAVIAR GREEN, RPM 7200, 64MB CACHE SATA11 3Gbs - INTERNAL 3.5 , DESKTOP

Wherever you see fit, please comment, suggest on changes.

A few starting points:

1) is the 5 ms response time for the screen proper for gaming?

2) Is the PSU compatible with the mainboard/socket?

3) Is the graphics card the best in the price class to go for?

4) should I rather go for an AMD than Intel given my gaming motive?

5) Is the 7200 RPM HDD fast enough?

6) Is the CPU fan adequate?

7) is the CPU adequate for my purposes?

Thank you kindly for ANY comments whatsoever.

Andreas


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#1
August 5, 2011 at 03:15:06
The gigabyte power supply isn't good http://www.comx-computers.co.za/GE-...
Consider this rosewill unit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

The video card is okay for gaming

should I rather go for an AMD than Intel given my gaming motive?
Core i3 2100 is very good CPU but the problem is u can't OC it.
U can buy phenom II x4 955be and OC it to 4ghz with stock cooler(which will outperform i3 2100 in many benchmark)

The hard drive is OK, but if possible get 1tb hard drive with the same specs(7200 rpm, 64mb cache)

The stock cooler will do it's job well even if CPU is overclocked

is the CPU adequate for my purposes? YES

Edit
X4 955be http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
NB 880g + SB 710 board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

We can not fight new wars with old weapons, let he who desires peace prepare for war - PROPHET.


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#2
August 5, 2011 at 03:27:25
Thanks! Solid advice! Will definitely be considered.

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#3
August 5, 2011 at 03:28:00
WIll the PSU actually affect performance? What can be done to limit the noise of the box?

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#4
August 5, 2011 at 04:27:04
WIll the PSU actually affect performance?
Power supplies do not directly impact the speed of a system, no. However, they can impact the stability, reliability, and overclockability of a system.
http://icrontic.com/forum/showthrea...

What can be done to limit the noise of the box?
-Installing one large rear(140mm) system fan that spin at low rpm
-Liquid cooling
-Lower cpu, system and video card fan rpm(this will cause overheating issues).

We can not fight new wars with old weapons, let he who desires peace prepare for war - PROPHET.


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#5
August 5, 2011 at 05:18:15
Thanks again for the help!

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#6
August 5, 2011 at 05:50:36
1. 5ms is OK, 2ms is better

2. the 370W PSU isn't gonna do it for you. Not enough wattage & too little amperage on the +12v rail(s). You'd be better off getting a decent quality 500W unit with a single +12v rail, active PFC, 80% plus efficiency rating.

http://mycomputershop.co.za/catalog...

3. here's a comment from Tom's Hardware about the HD 6850: "The GeForce GTX 460 1 GB and Radeon HD 6850 deliver impressive performance for a reasonable price tag, but they're currently squeezed between the Radeon HD 6790/GeForce GTX 460 768 MB and Radeon HD 6870/GeForce GTX 560 by a mere $20 on either side. Because of this, we either recommend the cheaper cards to save money or the more expensive ones for better performance."

4. if you choose the right CPU/motherboard combination, one's as good as the other. The main advantage to AMD is it's generally cheaper.

5. you chose a "green" HDD so it's not going to be as fast as a normal "non-green" HDD. And I don't think that drive spins at 7200RPM. If you copy/pasted that from a hardware vendor site, my guess is it's probably a misprint. Is it the WDC Green WD8000AARS?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

6. aftermarket cooling isn't a necessity. I suggest using the stock cooler & taking the money you would have spent on the Vortex & investing it elsewhere, like the power supply.

7. yes.


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#7
August 5, 2011 at 07:53:11
Thanks for the feedback!

1. Would you rate a 5ms response screen acceptable for gaming?

2. Will go for the 500 W, single 12 V rail PSU.

3. Very useful piece of info! After some specs from tom's hardware, I decided to go for the Radeon HD 6790 (will this one do: http://www.comx-computers.co.za/CGA...

4. Still undecided whether to go for AMD or Intel chiset. Will the fact that I have chosen an AMD Radeon card influence performance if I go for either AMD or Intel chipset? Also, I am strongly considering the overclocking aspect which seems to be generally easier with AMD and would be a plus.

5. I think you are correct. The site does have a misprint. Have a look at http://www.comx-computers.co.za/HDW... I will strongly consider going for a 1TB one.

6. Stupid question: What is a stock cooler? Does it come with the CPU? What are my options here?

7. The AMD Athlon II X4 645 looks sexy too though! What are your thoughts?

Thanks for your outstanding integrity.

Andreas


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#8
August 5, 2011 at 08:06:31
Core i3 2100 vs A64 II x4 645 vs Phenom II x4 955
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

Edit:
Since u decide hd 6790 how about cheaper radeon hd 5770 or hd 5830?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

We can not fight new wars with old weapons, let he who desires peace prepare for war - PROPHET.


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#9
August 5, 2011 at 08:18:01
Great benchmark! I think I have just decided to go for the i3 2100. Any idea how I can establish whether this CPU will be bottle-necked by the Radeon HD 6790?


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#10
August 5, 2011 at 08:35:51
Thanks. But I think I'll stick to the HD 6790. Have a look at the benchmarks of Alien v Predator @ http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/... The HD 6790 score over 80 frames per second while the HD 5770 scores under 40. I have been told that a good starting point is that all under 60 frames per second is noticable to the human eye. Thus, I would rather go for the HD 6790. And the benchmark above was done at Gamers level, not enthusiast.

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#11
August 5, 2011 at 08:37:28
Correction: I got my models all mixed up. I think I need to reconsider the model. I need to have over 60 frames per second for Alien V Predator.

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#12
August 5, 2011 at 08:39:15
How do I know that this model http://www.comx-computers.co.za/sea... has over 60 frames per second for Alien V Predator?

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#13
August 5, 2011 at 08:55:35
I note the model is crossfire: http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/pr... So can I assume that this is the performance of the 82.70 frames per second here: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/...

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#14
August 5, 2011 at 09:00:42
Final note on this: Quote from the specs: 'For an AMD CrossFireX system, a second Club 3D Radeon HD 6700 series graphic card, an AMD CrossFireX Ready motherboard and one AMD CrossFireX Interconnect Bridge (Club 3D itemcode: CAC-CB) are required' So I need to go back to the drawing board.

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#15
August 5, 2011 at 09:11:53
The graphics card hierarchy chart groups graphics cards with similar overall performance levels into tiers
Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

It's true hd 6790 outpeform hd 5770 but the performance level is similar that's why tom's put both cards on the same column.

Alien V Predator benchmark http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...
Other benchmarks http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

In some games 60 fps is the maximum, for smooth gameplay u need 25-30 fps, If it exceed 30fps the human eyes wont notice the difference.

We can not fight new wars with old weapons, let he who desires peace prepare for war - PROPHET.


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#16
August 5, 2011 at 10:25:16
I think I am tending towards the HD 6790 : http://www.comx-computers.co.za/CGA...

What do you think about it for a gamer?


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#17
August 5, 2011 at 10:47:40
Expect high or very high settings on any title.

We can not fight new wars with old weapons, let he who desires peace prepare for war - PROPHET.


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#18
August 5, 2011 at 10:59:27
Fair enough. Everything comes at a cost.

2 more aspects to wrap up everything:

1) CPU cooler - what are your suggestions here? Go without one? Or do I have to choose one?

2) PSU: Will this PSU meet what I require: http://www.comx-computers.co.za/IP-...


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#19
August 5, 2011 at 11:34:09
1. It will come with the CPU

2. Corsair 430w http://www.comx-computers.co.za/PS-... or

Corsair 500w http://www.comx-computers.co.za/PS-... or

Antec 450w http://www.comx-computers.co.za/PS-...

Can't find PSU on proline website http://www.proline.co.za/default.aspx

We can not fight new wars with old weapons, let he who desires peace prepare for war - PROPHET.


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#20
August 5, 2011 at 11:42:41
Thanks a lot!

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