flashing bios question

February 14, 2011 at 18:30:52
Specs: Windows XP
I have a computer that I have bad hard drives on so I bought a new sata drive for it but I need to flash the bios before it will see sata drives. My question is can i make the bootable floppy from a different computer? and what files do i need to leave on the floppy after it is formatted if this is possible. These are the file it put on during the format. Another question would be can i make a bootable floppy in safemode on the bad computer if I can get it back up?

good computer has a asus board and bad one has a ecs board

AUTOEXEC.BAT
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
DISPLAY.SYS
EGA2.CPI
EGA3.CPI
EGA.CPI
IO.SYS
KEYB.COM
KEYBOARD.SYS
KEYBRD2.SYS
KEYBRD3.SYS
KEYBRD4.SYS
MODE.COM
MSDOS.SYS


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#1
February 14, 2011 at 19:28:48
Where did you get that idea? If the motherboard has connection for SATA drives then they will work with the existing BIOS.

If you are using an add in controller card, the card does the SATA configuration.

If you are trying to install WinXP onto a SATA hard drive then one of two methods must be used. Either the BIOS already has a provision to run the SATA hard drive in an IDE compatibility mode, OR you need to supply SATA controller drivers as part of the install process.

That can be done by means of a floppy drive, or you need to integrate those drivers into your existing WinXP files and then burn a new CDR.

That process is called slipstreaming. You can use nLiteOS to do that. Get nLitOS at the link below.

http://www.nliteos.com/


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#2
February 14, 2011 at 19:48:24
If the mboard is older and has support for only the original SATA specs - 150mbytes/sec max burst data transfer speed...

- some main chipsets will recognize a SATA II or SATA II drive anyway, as a SATA drive - 150mbytes/sec max burst data transfer speed

- HOWEVER, some other main chipsets WILL NOT recognize a SATA II or SATA III drive AT ALL, unless the hard drive has pins you can install a jumper on that will limit the drive to the original SATA specs - 150mbytes/sec max burst data transfer speed, and you install a jumper on those pins.

All recent ( three years old or newer ? ) and new SATA drives are at least SATA II -a few are SATA III.

Some SATA II or SATA III hard drives have the pins for the jumper (e.g. most if not all Seagate 3.5" models), some don't (e.g.at least some Samsung 3.5" models).

E.g. I have two Seagate 500gb SATA II drives - they both have the pins and the tiny jumper was already installed when they were new -you remove the jumper if the mboard chipset supports SATA II drives.


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#3
February 14, 2011 at 19:53:44
I got it from the manufactures website after the drive was not detected. I have 2 sata connections on the board but for some OOPS on thier part the bios that the board was install with wasn't made to detect sata drives. what I read was that I need a upgraded version of the bios for it to detect the sata drive. if you know so much why didn't you try to answer any of the questions?

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#4
February 14, 2011 at 19:54:49

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#5
February 14, 2011 at 20:00:32
Thank you Tubesandwires That is very helpful I'll try that. I just bought the drive last week, it's a 500 gig western digital. I'll look on thier website to see if they have a jumper setting for it. I've never flashed a bios and I'm not looking forward to it. if I had another 400 buck I'd just upgrade it.

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#6
February 14, 2011 at 20:05:42
If the detailed specs for the mboard do not mention SATA II or SATA 2 or 300mbytes/sec or 3gbits/sec (same thing) SATA data transfer speed, it supports only the original SATA specs, and it may have one of the main chipsets that can recognize SATA II or III drives unless the jumper is installed.

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#7
February 14, 2011 at 20:06:56
mickliq is that going to work if the bios doesn't support sata drives?
thanks for the post

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#8
February 14, 2011 at 20:13:17
I've never seen or heard of a mboard that has built in SATA support that needed a bios update for it to recognize SATA drives.
If that were the case it would be prominently mentioned in the release notes for the bios versions on the mboard manufacturer's web site where you get the bios updates for the specific model.
If you don't see that there, you DO NOT need to update your bios !

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#9
February 14, 2011 at 20:18:35
ECS KT600 version 1.1 look in the FAQ section
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pr...

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#10
February 14, 2011 at 20:20:40
"is that going to work if the bios doesn't support sata drives?"

But the board DOES support SATA drives. You do NOT need to update the BIOS. XP does not recognize SATA drives. You need to follow my how-to.

From the link YOU posted:

º Support by VIA® VT8237
• 4 x Ultra DMA133/100/66 devices
• 2 x Serial ATA devices
º RAID0 & RAID1 configuration


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#11
February 14, 2011 at 20:24:46
it does if you have the 1.2 version of the bios
and why does my board not have the jumpers and why isnt anything in the bios to enable it. it is not detected as a drive. I will try your method 1 though thank you. sata was new when this board was made. my thought is that they put them on for storage drives.


This drive should show up in the second post screen that shows sata drive and it doesn't I'm just trying to fix it so it does.


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#12
February 14, 2011 at 20:34:35
SATA is hardware. If the board doesn't support SATA, a BIOS flash isn't magically gonna make the SATA sockets appear on the board. XP however does NOT support SATA hard drives without SATA drivers being installed 1st. Once again, read my how-to. If you don't use one of the 3 methods described, you will not be able to install XP.

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#13
February 14, 2011 at 20:40:22
Boy i picked the wrong place to ask questions. no one even answer any of the questions I ask. all i got was a run around. thanks for the posts guys but I'll go else where. have a great day.

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#14
February 14, 2011 at 20:42:06
If you insist on updating the BIOS, use the two floppy method. See response # 3:

http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...


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#15
February 14, 2011 at 21:02:37
We are discouraging you because flashing the bios is the riskiest thing you can do to a computer !
You could easily end up with a mboard that WILL NOT BOOT even if you do everything right !
Flash chips can only be flashed a small number of times and sometimes they physically fail the FIRST time you attempt to flash the bios !

By the way many ECS mboards were / are actually made by Hsing Tech, who market their own models retail as PCChips models.
Hsing Tech / PCChips mboards are well known to sometimes have used the cheapest possible flash chips when they were made, and those are a lot more likely to physically fail while flashing !
.......

That said....

It DOES say in the FAQs linked to on that web page:

"Why SATA cannot be detected during POST, does KT600-A support the SATA HDD?

Answer
1. Please update BIOS to v1.2C attached and flash the BIOS under DOS mode.
2. After flash finished, please access BIOS Setup to enable "Onchip SATA Device" of "Integrated Peripherals".
3. Then the SATA HDD should be detected on POST."
......

HOWEVER, you may already have that bios version !

How do I know the model name and version of the motherboard ?
How do I know the BIOS version of the motherboard ?
http://www.ecs.com.tw/extra/product...
......

If you DO have a lower bios version.....

IMPORTANT NOTE:
Please read the notes carefully before updating BIOS.
1. Do not update the BIOS if the system is running fine. Unsuccessful BIOS flash may cause the system fails to boot up. The manufacturer is not responsible for any BIOS flash failure.
2. Make sure your M/B PCB version number first, and then read the updated description & special note carefully to check if the new BIOS version patch pertain to your current problem.
(How to recognize the M/B PCB version)
Motherboard Product Information
How do I know the model name and version of the motherboard ?
How do I know the BIOS version of the motherboard ?
http://www.ecs.com.tw/extra/product...

UPDATE - see response 17


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#16
February 14, 2011 at 21:03:46
A lot of the bios upgrades now expect you to do it in a windows environment and not from a dos boot. And their upgrade files can only be used that way. So are you sure the upgrade files are for a dos boot?

If that's the case AND YOU'RE SURE YOU NEED THE UPGRADE then you want to start off with a bootdisk with just the basic system files--io.sys, msdos.sys and command.com. And those files can't just be copied to a formatted floppy disk. They have to be placed there with the SYS command. Io.sys and msdos.sys will be hidden and won't show with a regular DIR command.

I suggest you download a 98 bootdisk from someplace like bootdisk.com. That way the system files will already be where they're supposed to be. You'll actually be downloading a file that when run will create the bootdisk. Create the bootdisk and then delete everything on it except io.sys, msdos.sys and command.com. (Again, io.sys and msdos.sys are hidden.)

Then you need the upgrade file and the flasher file from the motherboard support page. Running the flasher will install the upgrade. Sometimes they'll be a specific syntax you need to use when running the upgrade. That should either be explained on the download page or will be part an autoexec.bat file that may be part of the download. Follow the instructions (from the motherboard site) to copy or extract the upgrade files to the floppy disk.

Then make sure the floppy drive is the first boot device in cmos/bios setup. Boot up with the floppy disk and perform the upgrade.

And remember, a failed bios update will usually render your motherboard useless. So you may want to have someone more experienced do it for you.

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#17
February 14, 2011 at 21:24:11
The bios update is an Award one but the download has no Award flash utility included with it.

Double click on the download to extract it's contents to a folder of your choice or to a floppy disk.

It's NOT a good idea to download a random Award flash Utility version because it may not work.

Try UNIFLASH

It works fine with most older mboards like this ECS one.

Uniflash has all the selections visible on two screens, and you use your cursor keys to move to another selection on the screen.

Standard way to use it is:
- extract files from Uniflash download
- See Uniflash.doc (in Wordpad).
- copy uniflash.exe to a bootable flash floppy along with your extracted bios update file.
- Boot with the floppy type uniflash (Enter) at the Dos prompt
- back up your present bios to the flash floppy!
I recommend this:
- Advanced - flash WITHOUT flashing boot block - if you get an error message, go back to main page and choose flash WITH flashing boot block.
NOTE that bios updates usually do not change the boot block part of the bios, so this error can be an important warning to you and you are wise to NOT go any further, QUIT Uniflash, and MAKE SURE you have the right bios update before you resort to flashing WITH flashing the boot block! Flashing the boot block is okay if your bios was somehow corrupted (which is rare), or in the rare case the boot block part was changed by the manufacturer, or if you are SURE it will work because it is for exactly the same combination of all the major chips you have on your mboard or is an alternate brand's bios for the same mboard, and you are SURE you have the right bios update.

Click on the Uniflash button here:
http://www.rainbow-software.org/
.......

After you flash the bios, the first time you boot you will get a "Cmos Checksum Error...." or similar message. You will either be prompted to enter the bios Setup or you will automatically go there. Enter the bios Setup, and load Bios Defaults - set the current Date and Time, Save settings. You MUST load bios defaults (or Clear the CMOS by moving a jumper on the mboard) in order to make sure the bios update is fully accepted by the mboard's bios - otherwise, the contents of the Cmos part of the bios and what you see in the bios Setup may not match the bios version, and your settings in the bios Setup may not work properly.


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#18
February 15, 2011 at 06:43:52
Thank you DAVEINCAPS
I do understand the danger in flashing bios, thats why I'm here asking question, I also know that I need to follow the instructions to the letter. I've been building computers since 2000, I just never had to flash the bios before. This is a old board, it's not the fastest one I have but it worked up until I pluged a electric heater into the same USP as my computer and I think it surged my drives. maybe it surged my board I dont know, thats the reason I bought the SATA drive. if the board is trash then I will just add this drive to another computer or save up a few bucks and upgrade the board, memory and cpu for this computer. I like to get as far ahead of Technology as I can afford.
I also bought a new PSU for this computer. This is a nonworking computer at the moment so if the bios flash doesn't help It's not a total loss, But that doesn't mean I'm going to just slap some floppy in it and wish myself the best of luck. :D I want to try to make it work, I've been told I have the patients of a saint, I don't see it, but I deal with a lot of people who have trouble trying to understand the basic principles of point and click, copy and paste. Thanks Again for Answering my Question.

TubesandWires You are a very helpful person, it is just that I'm past the point you started at, I already downloaded the files and I'm in the floppy making process thats the reason I need to know what file absoluely need to be on the bootible floppy before I copy the flash info to the disc, there isn't a lot of room on a floppy disc and I dont want extra file on it. Most of your posts may not have helped me but hopefully it will help someone else when they search for answers to questions about flashing.

Mickliq hate to tell you brother but the SATA setting WILL magically appear in the bios! *~*Thru the Magic of Electronic Data Transfer*~*

Since you all tried so hard to help, I'll post back and let you guy know how I make out. I owe you that.

Thanks again everyone!


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#19
February 15, 2011 at 07:40:34
YOur problem is with Windows, not the BIOS.

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#20
February 15, 2011 at 08:01:28
You need to keep in mind that your mboard needing a bios update, if it hasn't already been done, for it to recognize SATA drives is extremely unusual.
The usual case, almost always, is someone thinks they need a bios update when they actually DO NOT.

The problem of the XP CD not seeing SATA drives by default is a separate problem.

Of my posts, after all this has gone by, you only need to look at response 15 and 17.

The bios update itself is small - 256kb - and Uniflash is probably smaller..There are some tiny text files as well in the downloads contents, for information purposes.
All you need is the minimum files on it to make it bootable, the bios update,and a suitable flash utility.

I recommend you use Windows to prepare your flash floppy using FULL format.. FULL format is slower, but will find and exclude from use any previously undetected bad sectors on a floppy, a common problem these days.

RIGHT click on the A drive when the floppy is in it, choose Format, DO NOT choose Quick format.
When the format has finished, RIGHT click on the A drive, choose Properries.There should be NO bad sectors listed. If there are, if the floppy is less than about 7 years old, I recommend you don't use it - it will probably get worse. Format another floppy instead.

Then, in XP, RIGHT click on the A drive letter again, choose Format, choose make an MSDos startup disk.
(It's NOT a Windows Startup disk in the same way as one for ME and previous is - it makes a bootable ME disk with a few small other files on it - it has no ability to load real mode support for an optical drive. )

If you want to have the minimal number of files on the disk (you don't need to do this in this case), if you have set your Control Pane l- Folder Options - View settings in XP so you can see hidden and protected operating system files and so file extensions are not hidden, you can delete all the files made by making that MSDos disk except IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS, and Command.com.
Then just copy the bios update file (the *.bin file in this case) and Uniflash to the floppy.


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#21
February 15, 2011 at 18:22:07
The main thing about the bootdisk is you don't want to load any memory manager like himem.sys. That loads in config.sys. So if you don't have a config.sys (or only have one that came with the bios upgrade) then you won't have to worry about that.

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#22
February 15, 2011 at 19:46:19
Ok heres where I am Bios Flashed Sucessfully by opening and running on another computer the bios exe file which had the .bin file I needed in it, copied that and the flash utility, the three files Dave said I needed,the io.sys, msdos.sys and command.com. downloaded and install lastest Via raid drivers during windows install, partioned the drive into 3 section. Installed Windows Sucessfully. Ran the motherboard disc that I got with the board from desktop. and lost the raid on the third sceen of posting where the drive was showing up and now it wont boot to windows. windows shows the installation in the boot options but i get a error message about the path. I think I remember having to run another program to get that screen maybe a upgrade to the board drivers so I'll do a little searching to see what I can find. my other drives are very slow but the new sata drive was rolling right along so the board is still ok.

Thanks you all again


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#23
February 15, 2011 at 22:07:17
You're welcome. I'm glad the upgrade worked. They can sometimes be tricky. Keep us updated on the driver issue.

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#24
February 16, 2011 at 13:10:55
"Installed Windows Sucessfully. Ran the motherboard disc that I got with the board from desktop. and lost the raid on the third sceen of posting where the drive was showing up and now it wont boot to windows. "

Huh?

You didn't mention RAID previously.
You can't make a RAID array unless you have at least two hard drives connected to the same drive controller.
If you want to use a RAID array, you have to set it up BEFORE you install Windows

If you didn't want to set up a RAID array then explain in more detail why you mentioned RAID.

"....windows shows the installation in the boot options but i get a error message about the path."

Quote the message.

" I think I remember having to run another program to get that screen maybe a upgrade to the board drivers so I'll do a little searching to see what I can find."

Huh?

" my other drives are very slow but the new sata drive was rolling right along so the board is still ok."

You MUST load the Via 4 in 1 main chipset drivers for the mboard after Setup has finished in order for the the mboard and the drives to be able to run as fast as they can !

XP doesn't have the drivers built in for most things that first came out after XP was first released, circa 2001, and it doesn't have some of the drivers built in for things made before that.

Whenever you load Windows from a regular Windows CD (or DVD) from scratch, after Setup is finished you must load the drivers for the mboard, particularly the main chipset drivers, in order for Windows to have the proper drivers for and information about your mboard hardware, including it's AGP or PCI-E, ACPI, USB 2.0 if it has it, and hard drive controller support. If you have a generic system and have the CD that came with the mboard, all the necessary drivers are on it. If you load drivers from the web, brand name system builders and mboard makers often DO NOT have the main chipset drivers listed in the downloads for your model - in that case you must go to the maker of the main chipset's web site, get the drivers, and load them.


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#25
February 16, 2011 at 14:44:03
I still don't believe any BIOS flash was necessay or actually changed anything. If the board came with SATA ports then it supported SATA hard drives. As was mentioned, older boards supported SATA I speeds. Flashing the BIOS will not change the silicon that is the SATA controllers. No more than you can flash a BIOS and change USB 1.1 to USB 2.0.

Whoever told you that a BIOS update was necessary doesn't know what they are talking about.

The only thing that probably happened here is the BIOS flash set the CMOS to defaults where they may have been set differently before.

If your issue had to do with hard drive capacity then that is a different story.


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#26
February 16, 2011 at 15:38:36
OtheHill

"I still don't believe any BIOS flash was necessay or actually changed anything. If the board came with SATA ports then it supported SATA hard drives."

I found that impossible to believe too, until I read the FAQ section of the info for this model. If he did not already have the last, newest bios version, then he DID need to flash the bios for it to recognize SATA drives.
See response 15.

This the absolute first case I've seen.


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#27
February 16, 2011 at 18:43:46
TubesandWires

I have four black and white post screens, on the third the Via vt8237 SATA/RAID Driver post Screen is where my sata drive shows up. I lose this screen when I enable my Onchip USB Controller setting in the bios that screen doesn’t show up so I have to disable it that’s also why I get the windows error. It cant find that installtion of windows on the sata drive. From the two options of windows of the two drives, one is ide and the other is sata2. I’ll deal with that another day.

And I’m not making a raid array but I think they use the same controller. I don’t know, I know that for Windows to find it I install the Via drivers at the windows setup screen.


As far as the rest of what you said about mboard drivers I already said I ran it. I thought that was why I lost the drive on the reboot because after that I went into the bios to set it
up.

I’ve always have trouble with usb on this board but it works for the most part, I think I tried to update the usb drive from ecs website but I could never get the usb 2 to work, always error when plugging stuff into it having it tell me usb 2 wasn’t enabled when it was. which now it is disabled so the sata drive page shows.

I’ve built 9 computer from scratch, thru newegg, tigerdirect, and Computer shows around here so I know alittle about putting them together and getting them up and running. Like I said before If I had the money at the moment I would just put this old girl out to pasture and bought new. But I’m in the process of reopening my auto upholstery shop and don’t have time or money to spare.

I think the reason for the bios update was the version they loaded to the board when it was new wasn’t loading the correct information so windows could read it and apply what it needs to to work with it. In other words, It didn’t work right.


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#28
February 16, 2011 at 19:25:20
That is the first I have ever heard too.

ECS isn't the greatest brand either.


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#29
February 16, 2011 at 19:46:58
OtheHill

As I said, many of their models were / are actually made by Hsing Tech, who market their models retail as PCChips models. If the mboard has no ECS model number printed on the mboard surface, it was probably made by Hsing Tech.
If it was made by Hsing Tech....
- the ECS model usually has a bios string that indicates the bios version was made by / for Hsing Tech, not ECS.
- the mboard manual is often generic - it has no brand name in it.

However, ECS has been known to make their own bios version and they often make their own manual version for Hsing Tech mboards..
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mrfantasy

Did your Load Bios Defaults after flashing the bios ?
If you didn't, DO THAT !

If you can't do that, clear the Cmos by
- remove the mboard battery when the AC power has been removed to the PS, install it again after ten seconds, making sure the + is on the top of the battery when it is installed.
- or - by moving the clear Cmos jumper on the mboard, wait ten seconds, move it back, when the AC power has been removed to the PS.

Why?

As I said at the end of response 17......

"................. You MUST load bios defaults (or Clear the CMOS by moving a jumper on the mboard) in order to make sure the bios update is fully accepted by the mboard's bios - otherwise, the contents of the Cmos part of the bios and what you see in the bios Setup may not match the bios version, and your settings in the bios Setup may not work properly."
.........

"the Via vt8237 SATA/RAID Driver post Screen"

No info about the SATA driver version appears on the post screen. The POST cannot detect the SATA driver installed in Windows on the hard drive.

The line appears when the bios has detected a SATA drive - the controller's bios loads to give you the option of setting up a RAID array - typically it times out in 5 seconds if you don't press a key then the POST continues.

"I lose this screen when I enable my Onchip USB Controller setting in the bios that screen doesn’t show up so I have to disable it that’s also why I get the windows error."

Is the monitor you're trying to use connected via a DVI connection?

If YES....

Troubleshooting Common DVI Flat Panel Display Issues
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticle...
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"It cant find that installtion of windows on the sata drive."

I know from previous experience that you can install Windows XP (or 2000) successfully even when the bios Boot Order settings are NOT correct.
In that situation, it's only AFTER Windows Setup has finished that the bios does not boot from the drive you installed Windows on.

Also, on mboards that support both IDE and SATA drives, some bioses default to try booting from an IDE hard drive first when both types of drives are connected; some bioses default to try booting from a SATA hard drive first when both types of drives are connected.

When you have more than one hard drive connected,if the bios is not booting from the drive you want it to boot from, either....

- there is a list of hard drives in the bios, often near the Boot Order or similar settings - the model of the hard drive you want to boot from must be first (on top) in the list, Save bios settings.

-or - there is no list of hard drives, but there is more than one hard drive listed in the Boot Order or similar list - the hard drive you want to boot from must be first (on top) in the list, Save bios settings.
If models are not listed, they are listed generically, in the order in which the bios is presently detecting them, according to which connectors they are connected to, and in the case of IDE drives according to how they are jumpered - e.g. HDD0, HDD1, etc.

"I think the reason for the bios update was the version they loaded to the board when it was new wasn’t loading the correct information so windows could read it and apply what it needs to to work with it. In other words, It didn’t work right."

The original bios version worked fine overall , but according to that FAQ info you pointed me too, it must have had bugs that prevented SATA drives from being detected.


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#30
February 16, 2011 at 20:05:50
Ecs's K7S5A came out of the gate runnin with a AMD socket A 1700 processor loaded in it, Thats also when learned about Overclocking :D
That was a wonderful 6 years. I know I had two of them a version 1.0 and 5.0. and one is still running. I built my Daughter a computer with one after mine worked so well and she still uses it everyday. She is 22 now and I think I bought it off ebay in 04. it's the 5.0 version and not as fast as mine was but it still flies when you click with it and I would be downloading files and playing music and surfing the web all at the same time and never had a problem with it. it alway kept up with what I was doing. I use asus now though but i always keep tabs on ecs to because they arent to shabby from what I'll used. And i ride'm hard! :D

and yes i read your post and did that Tubes.


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#31
February 16, 2011 at 21:05:55
This mboard's main chipset definitely supports only the original SATA specs -- max 150mbytes/sec ( = 1.5gbits/sec - same thing - SATA drives transfer data at 10 bits per byte, not 8) max burst data transfer speed - I found that in it's manual.

By the way, the manual is generic - ECS and Elite Computer Systems is not in it.
This is probably a model actually made by Hsing Tech, and it may also have a Hsing Tech bios version.
Hsing Tech / PCChips (their own retail brand) mboard models vary from being as good as anything else to poor.

"I think I tried to update the usb drive from ecs website but I could never get the usb 2 to work, always error when plugging stuff into it having it tell me usb 2 wasn’t enabled when it was"

The mboard definitely supports USB 2.0
All of the USB ports support USB 2.0.

The main chipset drivers must be installed in order for Windows to be informed about which type of USB 2.0 support it has. There is no separate Via USB 2.0 drivers.

XP must have SP1 or later updates installed in it in order for it to be able to install the generic USB 2.0 support built into it.

If you are only getting messages about a USB port not supporting USB 2.0 when you're using a USB port that's connected by wiring to a mboard header, the wiring between the USB port and the header cannot support USB 2.0 specs.
E.g. I have a generic case that has inadequate wiring to the two front ports on the case and I always get that message when I plug in a device Windows "knows" will work better if the port supported USB 2.0 specs.

USB 2.0 specs require that the wiring have a higher minimum wire gauge (a lower gauge number = a larger diameter of the wire itself) than USB 1.1 wiring, and wiring rated for USB 2.0 often also has braided wire shielding around all the wires for one port between the two ends.


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#32
February 17, 2011 at 05:00:35
mrfantasy

I too had 2 K7S5A boards. Cheap board with some capabilities. Also not without its problems. If you recall, many users had issues with the CMOS not retaining data. Changing the battery helped in some cases but no solution was found for many others.

I had an issue with a Sound Blaster Live card that I couldn't get to work on that board, no matter what I did.


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#33
February 17, 2011 at 05:37:14
OtheHill

Sorry to hear that, you'll find a lot of the time you have trouble with card brands that don't match the main chipset Manufacture. If I have a NVIDIA video chipset I stick with that brand of video card just to eliminate unforeseen troubles, same goes with sound chip. If I'm building a system and I see a card I like I make sure the board I buy has that manufactures main chipset for that type of card. You have to remember if manufactures do things the same as another there is going to be a law suit for copyright infringement.


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