Dell Inspiron E1505 Cannot Find New Hard Drive

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November 16, 2017 at 22:32:22
Specs: Windows XP, 4 GB
Well, I haven't been on here in years.

Hello! I am having an issue installing my new 250 GB hard drive into a Dell Inspiron E1505 and I was wondering if anyone could help me.

Less than 2 weeks ago, I purchased aforementioned hard drive and decided to install it today. 5 years ago, I purchased and installed a 320 GB Hard Drive so I figured this would be pretty simple.

I proceeded as follows.

Removed the battery pack, removed the old hard drive, inserted the new one, put the battery back, inserted the Window XP setup disk and turned on the computer.

The Setup screen shows up, with loading details at the bottom but when I have to continue by pressing Enter, I get a screen saying that the computer cannot find the Hard Drive.

I looked in the BIOS and there it said there is no Hard Drive installed either.

I did some troubleshooting via google and the answer I always came across was to change the SATA settings, which I did not see an option for in the computer's BIOS.

I also saw instructions for downloading a specific driver(s), burning it onto a blank disk and putting that into my disk drive but unfortunately I only have 1 other computer and its a all in one that doesn't have a CD / DVD drive.

What actions should I take to resolve this issue? Any and all tips, advice, and instructions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you so much for your time.

E1505 Manual : https://www.manualagent.com/dell/in...


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#1
November 17, 2017 at 06:41:07
Not had a Dell for a while but their manuals have usually been pretty good; as was their techs support when I had their assorted tower systems in the past.

This is the manual for your laptop; pages 102 - 112 approx may be useful reading....

http://downloads.dell.com/manuals/c...

Your looking for replacing parts - hard drive etc. page 110 approx; and the re-installing the operating system is referenced back to 102 approx.

Incidentally why not simply re-install the original drive and clone it to the new one; and then swap drives?

And this is the service manual:

http://downloads.dell.com/manuals/c...

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#2
November 17, 2017 at 07:01:22
Why are you attempting to reinstall WinXP? Now would be the perfect time to move on.

XP was released before SATA HDDs went mainstream therefore the XP installer doesn't recognize SATA drives & will report back "no hard disk". You will either have to change the HDD setting in the BIOS to IDE mode (in which case the SATA drive won't perform as well as it could), OR you will have to load the SATA drivers at the start of the XP installation by pressing F6 & then install them from a floppy (or possibly a USB stick?), OR you would have to create a new XP installation disc with the SATA drivers slipstreamed into it.


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#3
November 17, 2017 at 14:17:46
trvlr : Thank you for your response "Incidentally why not simply re-install the original drive and clone it to the new one; and then swap drives?"

I'm not sure how I would go about doing this. Do you know of any links that would explain how I do so?


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#4
November 17, 2017 at 14:29:28
riider : Thank you for responding. If having Windows XP is too out of date which OS CD do you think I should install that'd still work properly for this computer?

I looked into the BIOS and saw no way of changing to IDE mode.

So if I get a more recent operating system such as Vista or Windows 7, can I bypass having to install SATA drivers?


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#5
November 17, 2017 at 15:31:08
"often"a new drive arrives with a cut down version of something like Acronis which allows one to clone an existing drive to a new one. If not then the website for the new drive will usually have similar software - probably in downloads section.

What make is the new drive?

It would be useful to pay attention to riider's thoughts though re' XP beng somewhat past its prime... He (and others here) is (are) more familiar with that aspect and hopefully will advise you completely than I may...


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#6
November 17, 2017 at 21:49:10
Hello again trvlr. This is the hard drive I purchased so I'm not sure...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/250GB-HARD...


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#7
November 18, 2017 at 03:07:14
"Usually" there is a label on the drive giving details about the drive. Those details normally include the make/model number of the drive.

You might also contact the vendor and ask for the manufacturer's details?

Are you able to look at the orginal drive and see what make that one is?


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#8
November 18, 2017 at 07:20:12
So, did you replace a SATA drive with another one? riider is correct in #2 above. WinXP, including the media center edition, can't natively recognize IDE hard drives but if you successfully swapped out your hard drives you must have had a SATA drive originally. I say that because the connections for the 2 types are incompatible.

The specs for your model indicate it shipped with WinXP media center edition. If it came like that on a SATA hard drive then the Dell installation disk/s must include SATA drivers.

Clarify what you are working with and if you are using a Dell restore disk.

BTW, all versions of WinXP are no longer supported, so running it while on the internet puts you at risk.


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#9
November 18, 2017 at 15:04:11
"if I get a more recent operating system such as Vista or Windows 7, can I bypass having to install SATA drivers?"

Yes, Vista & later Windows versions natively support SATA drives. I suggest you avoid Vista though, it's rapidly losing support & is almost as risky as running XP. If you have 4GB RAM, you should have no problem running Win7 or even Win10, so long as drivers are available. Or if you're willing to experiment, there are plenty of Linux versions that will work. Most are free & they rarely if ever get infected. I run Mint Linux on two desktops & an old laptop. I like the Xfce edition because it's a little lighter on system resources but many prefer the Cinnamon edition.

https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3289

https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3291


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#10
November 26, 2017 at 11:47:09
Yeah no manufacturer details. Thank you so much trvlr for responding though.

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#11
November 26, 2017 at 11:49:57
OTheHill : So I would definitely need to update the DATA drivers in order to continue using the system I already have. Thank you for your answer.

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#12
November 26, 2017 at 12:06:59
riider : I believe upgrading the operating system would be best. Thank you very much for all the help. The computer I am trying to fix is my mother's and she is used to the Windows setup so I'll have to stick with that.

If I come across any hiccups while installing the new OP I will let you all know in this post. Again thank you all so much, I was truly at a loss.


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#13
December 14, 2017 at 15:44:07
Hello. Back again with an update.

The Windows 7 CD has arrived. I inserted the disk and was greeted with a black screen. After a few moments, I got a "Windows is loading files" Notification.

Then a new window prompts with the Windows 7 logo and a button that says install now. Of course I click on it.

Next it says, Setup is Starting....

So far so good right?

Then... I get this window

A Required CD/DVD drive device is missing. If you have a driver floppy disk, CD, DVD, or USB flash drive, please insert it now.

Note: If the Windows installation media is in the CD/DVD drive, you can safely remove it for this step.

I selected OK

Following window :

No device drives were found, Make sure that the installation media contains the correct drivers, and then click OK.

I am currently looking at a window that asks you to "Select the driver to be installed"

There's nothing available.

Prior to this, I reinserted my old hard drive and got a blue screen that says this.

Stop: c0000218 {Registry File Failure} The registry cannot load the hive (file): \SystemRoot\System32\Config\SYSTEM


What should I do now?

Thank you all for responding again.



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#14
December 14, 2017 at 21:18:05
As long as you are installing Windows 7 on a SATA or PATA (IDE) drive it should not require any driver until after the install is complete. Make sure that you install to the hard drive or SSD drive that will be your boot drive.
Try choosing the Custom install settings, then Format/Partition, Delete any old partitions and create a new single partition and format it to NTFS and continue with the install.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#15
December 14, 2017 at 21:35:02
How would I be able to check whether the drive I have is SATA or PATA. I didnt see an option for that in the BIOS

Here is the hard drive I purchased.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/250GB-HARD...

When I selected the Custom option, there was nothing available to choose from.

"Where do you want to install Windows?" was the question posed and there's nothing there.

"No drives were found. Click Load Driver to provide a mass storage driver for installation. "

When I clicked on Load Driver, a window popped up saying

"To install the device driver needed to access your hard drive, insert the installation media containing the driver files and then click OK.

Note : the installation media can be a floppy disk, CD,DVD or USB flash drive


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#16
December 15, 2017 at 07:00:42
First it is a SATA but it is an earlier generation 1.5GB/s which makes it a SATA gen1 which is very slow for today's machines and it is a refurbished unit, probably just removed from an old computer and wiped clean. I would return it.
You need to access your BIOS if you still want to try this drive and set the drive to Bootable so it appears in the boot order and make sure that it is the boot order just behind the CD/DVD drive. Once that is done then it will be visible to the installer. If it does not appear in the BIOS then it is either not connected correctly or it is bad.
Either way I would return it and purchase a new drive.
Here is one on sale:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#17
December 20, 2017 at 12:39:55
Okay. Thank you for your advice. Hopefully I should still be able to return it.

What do you suggest I do about the issue I had when I had my older drive installed?

Stop: c0000218 {Registry File Failure} The registry cannot load the hive (file): \SystemRoot\System32\Config\SYSTEM This blue screen error I received.

How do I go about solving this?

Thank you again.


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#18
December 20, 2017 at 12:54:56
I personally wouldn't bother returning it. You are going to lose 10% plus the shipping both ways. The seller claims to warranty the drive for 5 years. SATA I or SATA II isn't going to make much of any difference in overall performance. It is a laptop after all.

As was stated above, you shouldn't need to do anything with SATA drivers when installing Windows 7. That was only for Some versions of WinXP and older.

What you should do is Choose custom installation instead of Auto when the Computer asks.


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#19
December 20, 2017 at 16:34:59
I really do not agree with you OtheHill on this. SATA I is slower than SATA II by half its speed and a SATA III running on a SATA II system would be a little bit snappier mainly due to the larger cache it carries. I was always able to tell the difference between a IDE33, IDE66, SATA I drives and later SATA II drives as we upgraded. I was able to tell the difference between a 5400RPM drive and a 7200RPM drive in the SATA II drives. We almost all have experienced the difference between SATA III hard drives (even fast ones) and SATA III SSD drives, and I can attest to the improvements between a SATA III SSD drive and a PCIe 3.0 4X SSD drive in the overall feel of the system.
New hard drives are not expensive and the difference between a really old one and a newer one is like a RAM upgrade or a mild overclock without the expense or hassle.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#20
December 20, 2017 at 16:40:15
Is your Windows 7 DVD a factory new one? Was it sealed and included a certificate of authenticity with the activation key? Was it a non-branded disk or was it intended to run on a certain brand or model of computer? Many times ebay sellers sell you one of these and it may not work, may not activate without a key, or may only work with a certain brand and model computer (recovery disk) with drivers specifically selected for that machine.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#21
December 21, 2017 at 21:18:13
Fingers

The laptop is Circa 2006 and running the HD at 5400RPM. The SATA controller is either SATA I or II. The Difference is not worth spending more money IMO. Look at the links below and decide for yourself.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1329463/...



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#22
December 22, 2017 at 07:05:53
Sorry, I did not realize that the machine was a laptop and that old. It appears that it has the 945 series mobile chipset which supports only SATA150 (SATA I), the earliest generation SATA drive interface.
Having done the extra research, I cannot recommend spending more on the hard drive.
I am not sure that the laptop is worth spending very much money or time on but that is not my choice.
Windows 7 if a genuine copy should work if the drive is good and will be more secure than XP at this point in time. Be sure that your antivirus program does not hog all of the resources, you need something lean but mean on your side.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#23
January 19, 2018 at 13:49:28
Thank you both for your opinions, as of right now I am financially incapable of buying a new computer so I have to try my best to make this work.

So I ended up returning that hard drive, just had to spend money on postage. When I re installed the old hard drive I got this notification.

Stop c0000218 {Registry File Failure}
The registry cannot load the hive (file)
\SystemRoot\System32\Config|SYSTEM
or its log or alternate
It is corrupt, absent, or not writable.

I'm having a hard time understanding what that means. Does that have anything to do with SATA?

So sorry for the late return.


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#24
January 19, 2018 at 15:17:06
It looks like there is some damage to the installation of Windows or there is damage to the hard drive itself (possibly electrostatic discharge if you did not ground yourself or damage before it was removed).
You can try popping in the new Widows 7 DVD to see if you can delete all partitions and install Windows 7 on that drive (assuming there is nothing on the drive that you need still).
Alternately you can pop in the Windows XP disk and try doing a Repair .
You can burn a CD with Seatools for DOS from Seagate which is bootable and free and use that to test the hard drive (short test).
Let us know what you try and how it goes for more possibilities.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#25
January 19, 2018 at 15:53:05
If you are considering an XP repair installation - which in effect overwrites the current installation and will restore/replace damaged files - and need more specific info about how to go about "properly/safely" - post back

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