Crashing issues. I've tried nearly everything

October 15, 2009 at 13:30:32
Specs: Windows XP
Hi, I'm having some weird issues with zero clues as to what's wrong. Lately, my computer has been crashing. It always happens when using anything that requires a lot of computer power (Spore, WoW and even using Facebook while also playing Yahoo Games). Although my settings are set to "restart after crash" it never does, leading me to think it's not software. It's also not a BSOD. It just simply shuts down as if someone turned it off.

I had made no hardware or software changes (that I'm aware of) when this began and have not had this issue until recently, despite using this PC as is for over a year. here's my systems stats:

Pentium 4 3.07 Ghz
1.5 Gigs ram
Windows XP Pro
Nvidia GeForce 6200 OC
Master and slave drives (Master only has windows)
Biostar P4 M800 M7A motherboard

Here are the things I have tried in order to isolate the problem:

1) Replaced PSU (went from 300 W to 700W)
2) Added Ram, now running 1.5 GB
3) Swapped out Video cards
4) Used Speedfan to monitor temp (nothing ever broke 60 degrees C)
5) Reformatted and re-installed Windows XP Pro
6)Replaced 80 GB Slave drive with new 500GB slavedrive
7) Ran Hotcpu (freeware version) and came up clean
8) Ran two different memtest programs (not bootable ones) and let them cycle 5 times and 7 times respectively, with no RAM errors.
9) Ran Scandisk from boot to check disks...no issues

In all of these instances, the computer ran fine until I tried something that required a lot of power and it would crash. I once even ran WoW for 5 hours with no problems, then the next day it crashed in 20 minutes.

The only other odd behavior I'm having is, after reinstalling windows, about 15-20 of the updates won't install. It does all of the typical downloading and it tries to install, but the install fails.

Please, this is my last hope before taking the beast to a computer shop and paying out my nose to fix it, so if you can help, I would love it.


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#1
October 15, 2009 at 13:35:27
I realize you checked the temperature, but I still suggest that you try the following: Pull a cover off and have a fan blowing into it.

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#2
October 15, 2009 at 13:44:39
Alright, I'll give that a shot. Any other advice in the meantime would be great, as well.

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#3
October 15, 2009 at 13:51:44
One thing: How will I be able to tell if this is working? I mean, how long should it work fine before I conclude that I've isolated the issue?

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#4
October 15, 2009 at 13:56:36
First place I'd look is the event log.

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Les Paul (1915-2009)


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#5
October 15, 2009 at 14:12:54
"Although my settings are set to "restart after crash" it never does, leading me to think it's not software. It's also not a BSOD"

Actually it's "System failure" > "Automatically restart". And you're not gonna see a BSOD as long as that setting is enabled - disable it & leave it that way!

"Replaced PSU (went from 300 W to 700W)"

Totally unnecessary. There's really nothing about your system that screams, "I need more wattage!" But a decent name brand 700W PSU costs $75 or more. If you paid significantly less, you *may* have actually downgraded. How about posting the info about both your PSUs...make/model & amperage specs?

"Used Speedfan to monitor temp"

Check the BIOS to confirm that Speedfan's readings are accurate.

"Ran Hotcpu (freeware version) and came up clean"

Try this: http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_e...


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#6
October 15, 2009 at 14:45:42
>>>> Actually it's "System failure" > "Automatically restart". And you're not gonna see a BSOD as long as that setting is enabled - disable it & leave it that way!

OK, I will...once I find it, again.

>>>> Totally unnecessary. There's really nothing about your system that screams, "I need more wattage!" But a decent name brand 700W PSU costs $75 or more. If you paid significantly less, you *may* have actually downgraded. How about posting the info about both your PSUs...make/model & amperage specs?

I realize that. When this first happened, I realized that the PSU fan wasn't blowing. So I opened the case to see if a plug was loose and noticed some elements seemed singed inside. I decided to buy a new one before that old one blew out. When I went to buy it, there was a 700 W on sale so I figured why not. The new one is a Rocketfish.

>>>>Check the BIOS to confirm that Speedfan's readings are accurate.

I'm not sure how to do that. And I will try the linked app.
Thanks


In the event log, what am I looking for?


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#7
October 15, 2009 at 15:07:40
When running the OCCT program, it said my Directx wasn't updated...that wouldn't make it crash would it?

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#8
October 15, 2009 at 16:29:50
Test results showed that the GPU temp never got higher than 40...but there were some suspicious flatlines...maybe the temp gauge is broken?

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/...


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#9
October 15, 2009 at 20:19:36
"OK, I will...once I find it, again"

Right click on My Computer, then click Properties. Click the Advanced tab, then under Startup & Recovery, click the Settings button. Under System failure, uncheck the box next to Automatically restart, then click OK, then OK again.

"it said my Directx wasn't updated"

Which version of DX are you running? If you don't know, do the following:

Click Start > Run, type dxdiag then click OK. At the bottom, what is listed for DirectX Version? It *should* be DirectX 9.0c...if it's not, you can get the latest version from here:

http://www.filehippo.com/download_d...

It's a pretty hefty download, over 100MB. I suggest you save it for future use.

"there was a 700 W on sale so I figured why not. The new one is a Rocketfish"

Piece of sh!t from Bestbuy. Actually made in China by HuntKey. 650W unit masquerading as a 700W. How much did you pay for it?


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#10
October 15, 2009 at 21:16:08
I'm running DX9, and it's updated, now.

I only payed $65 for it. Still, 650 W should be plenty, I would imagine.

A friend of mine said I should look for bad caps (which I had never heard of). I think I found one, but of course, I could be 100% wrong:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/24...
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/80...


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#11
October 19, 2009 at 20:32:00
Well, after some help here and from friends, it turns out my northbridge was overheating. So I grabbed a case fan...so far, so good.

Thanks to everyone for all the help. I REALLY appreciated it.


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