Solved cheap reference GPU choices

October 21, 2018 at 09:29:05
Specs: Windows, Amd ryzen
I was wondering about Nvidia reference cards and came upon the gtx 780 and gtx 970 founders edition on amazon (link below) are they any good if I buy them by 2018's standards? cuz I kinda like the style of the cards and their logo glow on the side (getting an nzxt h500 (white)). If they are both bad performance wise I'll just consider your guys suggested gpu's. I know it's old and everything, but those are the cheapest Nvidia blower style reference cards I can find.
gtx 780: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperCl...
gtx 970: https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-GeFor...

Oh, and does sli only work on games that support it, I don't know how all the driver downloading works

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#1
October 21, 2018 at 16:50:21
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A graphics card is not a GPU any more than a computer is a CPU.

GPU = Graphics Processing Unit. AMD & NVIDIA make GPUs. Here's an NVIDIA GPU.

Manufacturers such as ASUS, EVGA, MSI, Sapphire, etc buy the GPUs & then use them on their graphics cards. They have the choice of building the cards to the reference design specs recommended by AMD or NVIDIA, or go with their own - different GPU clock settings, different memory, different cooling, etc. The GPU used on the GTX 970 is GM204. The GPU used on the GTX 780 varied thru-out its lifetime - G70, GK104, GK110, GK110B - so if you're looking at 780's, be sure to pick the right one. This database will help with the specs: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/



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October 22, 2018 at 04:47:23
I wouldn't suggest using SLI at all, since you will not get 100% scaling/ even negative scaling or it will just not work/crazy amounts of frame stuttering.

but here is an example of GTX 1070TI-scaling:
https://babeltechreviews.com/the-50...

gtx 970 vs gtx 1070 ti:
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compa...

i5-6600K[delid]@4.7GHz/4.3GHz@1.376v LLC=6 | 2x4GB Crucial-DDR4-2133CL15@14-14-14-28 1T 2700MHz@1.35v
MSI Armor RX 570 4GB@1180Mhz core@0.937v/2000MHz

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October 22, 2018 at 08:46:05
Oh, so it's graphics card, thanks for the info.
but should I get the gtx 780 or 970 in 2018?

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#4
October 22, 2018 at 10:05:04
I would personally go with the gtx 970, because the card will be supported by Nvidia longer than the GTX 780 in terms of driver support.

GTX 1060 6GB would be even better, but you said you cannot get it for the price of ~200$

i5-6600K[delid]@4.7GHz/4.3GHz@1.376v LLC=6 | 2x4GB Crucial-DDR4-2133CL15@14-14-14-28 1T 2700MHz@1.35v
MSI Armor RX 570 4GB@1180Mhz core@0.937v/2000MHz


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#5
October 22, 2018 at 11:27:29
What is this driver support? I’m clueless to how this stuff works

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#6
October 22, 2018 at 13:08:13
You really need to do more research before buying anything.

https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-a-...

https://www.tomshardware.com/review...

Here's a Radeon RX 570 (overclocked) with 8GB memory for $160 after rebate:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod... You understand what overclocking is, right? The RX 570 GPU (Polaris 20) is spec'd to run at 1168MHz as per the reference design, but this particular card runs the GPU at 1268MHz so it's overclocked by 100MHz (or approx 9%).
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-spe...

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October 22, 2018 at 17:02:28
Oh ok, thanks for the insider, How long do you think driver support will last for the gtx 780? I just want one cuz its only like $144 and isn't overclocking running something higher than its designed to???? I understand if you're cringing hard, if I knew this stuff, I would too.

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#8
October 23, 2018 at 03:37:19
Not sure how long it will last, all i know is that Fermi based GPU's so that would be the GTX 480 for example is no longer supported by nvidia as of this year.

In other words, Nvidia will no longer be updating the drivers for the GTX 480, meaning the cards will most likely be performing a lot worse in modern titles than it would if the GTX 400 series was still supported.

Having said that, the GTX 780 is still relevant to this day, the GTX 970 will just be sopported longer.
I can however not say when Nvidia is going to stop supporting the GTX 780.

but i will say this:

if youre buy a 2nd hand GTX 780 it will die(from heating up and cooling down over and over again) faster than a GTX 970, just because it is older.

i5-6600K[delid]@4.7GHz/4.3GHz@1.376v LLC=6 | 2x4GB Crucial-DDR4-2133CL15@14-14-14-28 1T 2700MHz@1.35v
MSI Armor RX 570 4GB@1180Mhz core@0.937v/2000MHz


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#9
October 23, 2018 at 09:14:34
Don't invest in an outdated graphics card. If don't have enough money in your PC budget, cut back someplace else so you can put more money towards the card. For instance, don't waste your money on a fancy-schmancy case that's loaded with fans & pretty lights. And contrary to the recent trend, a case with the PSU mounted at the top generally has superior cooling characteristics than the bottom mount versions.

The Problem of Bottom-Mounted Power

An aftermarket CPU cooler isn't a necessity either. The AMD stock cooler is actually pretty good. And there are plenty of decent Corsair power supplies available for about $25-40 after rebate. There's no reason to spend any more than that.

CORSAIR PSUs at Newegg.com

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October 23, 2018 at 09:37:15
Ok I'll look into that, thanks.
Actually, you know what, you're right. I'll just stick with the radeon rx 570.

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