Can't get Windows 7 RC1 to install

Self / FOXCONN
June 27, 2009 at 11:09:24
Specs: WinXP SP3, Athlon64x4000 2GB
Hope someone here can shed some light on this.

I tried to install Windows 7 beta in the past and got BSOD at the final stage. Tested the RAM with memtest86 and got no errors.

I recently tried again with RC1. Running SATA II drives. Tried with and without supplying SATA drivers at the beginning.

I have flashed the BIOS to the latest version. Stripped the machine down to the basics. Using onboard video, sound & Lan. Nothing else connected. Tried disconnecting extra drives, cards, USB stuff. Pulled half the RAM. Still get the same result.

One other problem that may be related is that I can't get a SATA burner to work. BIOS recognizes it and so does WinXP but if I try to read a CDR it locks up the computer. Have tried 2 new SATA burners.

I thought I had read about some chip sets having issues with SATA optical drives so didn't think too much about that.

The Foxxconn MB has 939 socket, 6150aMB & 430a SB. Even tried under clocking the DDR400 to 333. I think that covers it for now.


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#1
June 27, 2009 at 12:14:43
Wonder if this is an nf3 issue. Are you dual booting? My daughter got it installed on the msi neo2 plat with satas. 1 thing she did was unhook the other sata with xp on it then the install went easy.

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#2
June 27, 2009 at 12:23:05
No, separate 500GB WD SATA II drive partitioned and formatted NTFS. Installing to the primary active partition with the other SATA II hard drive disconnected.

The MB is an nForce3 chipset. I thought that Windows 7 would have addressed any issues that Vista may have had with that chipset.

Do you know anything about SATA optical drives working on nf3 chipsets?


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#3
June 27, 2009 at 13:14:23
Haven't had to much experience with sata opticals on the nf3. Just curious,can you disable the onboard nic (for now)? Most stuff I'm seeing online like this seem to be nics and sata issues. Thinking maybe disable the nic before install then d/l the drivers. Enable the nic and boot then do the driver install? Sorta backwards but hey it ms lol.

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#4
June 27, 2009 at 13:22:16
"Enable the nic and boot then do the driver install? Sorta backwards but hey it ms lol".

What drivers are you referring to? How would I DL them without a network adapter?

I could try disabling the NIC. I don't think I need to download anything.

I assume you are talking about RC1 and nothing about the SATA optical drives?


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#5
June 27, 2009 at 13:26:57
Oh sorry brains not right today (head cold).

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#6
June 27, 2009 at 13:32:18
Yeah I was refering to rc1 sorry.

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#7
June 27, 2009 at 14:10:14
I just found a site with nvidia SATA drivers that are supposed to work but when I try them I get a message that the program can't find any compatible drivers. They are on the floppy and I browsed to it. Will go back and do some more research.

It sounds like the SATA drivers are the issue though.


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#8
June 27, 2009 at 14:14:05
Have you tried using PATA compatability mode to install W7?

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#9
June 27, 2009 at 17:54:22
"The Foxxconn MB has 939 socket, 6150aMB & 430a SB"

The SB is an nForce430a. That makes it an nF4 board, not an nF3. Have you ever tried installing Vista on that same setup?

Try doing the Win7 install with a completely blank HDD. Don't partition/format in advance...do it during the installation & let Windows setup the 100MB 'system partition'. Make sure all your BIOS settings are correct. Disable AHCI until after installing the SATA drivers & keep all unnecessary hardware disconnected until Windows is completely installed & working.


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#10
June 27, 2009 at 19:16:28
Jam, I realized it was an nforce4 after I posted that. No, I haven't tried Vista.

What is with the 100MB system partition?

What SATA drivers should I use?


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#11
June 28, 2009 at 11:59:44
Othehill. Are you installing the 32 bit or the 64 bit?

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#12
June 28, 2009 at 13:57:45
Trying to install the 32 bit version. I tried installing again using the Latest nVidia SATA IDE drivers for Vista. Same result.

jam recommended installing to an empty drive but I have my 500GB partitioned into four partitions and have data on two of them.

Disabled everything I could in the BIOS including NIC, sound, serial, parallel, USB, etc. I do have a dial up modem that I forgot to pull. May try once more after pulling that. I am getting discouraged with it though.

Wish I knew if any nforce4 drivers are included in Windows 7. Maybe I also need to supply chipset drivers?


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#13
June 29, 2009 at 07:47:31
silly question not trying to load from a iso file are you

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#14
June 29, 2009 at 08:02:21
No, installing from a DVD that was made from the ISO. Installation goes though to the final step and then gives a BSOD.

I am currently trying to slipstream all the nForce4 Vista drivers into the Windows7RC1 DVD. You need to use a program called vlite and it requires a MS program called AIK. I am downloading AIK now and will attempt to integrate all the nForce4 Vista drivers into the RC1 package.

Unfortunately, you can only provide ONE driver file at the start of the Windows7 install. I tried looping back numerous times but have no way of knowing if that actually installs more than the current driver you highlighted. Royal pain in the A**.


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#15
June 29, 2009 at 10:40:22
I am at a standstill. vlite doesn't seem to want to work with Windows 7 RC1. Keeps giving me errors. Last time it stated it couldn't find the license for the OS.

I am pretty sure the issue is with the nForce4 drivers but I can't get them into Windows 7 RC1.


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#16
June 29, 2009 at 11:48:40
Some shots in the dark as I have no clue:

Does the board have an IDE port? If so, you might want to try an IDE DVD Drive.

Do you still have XP on this system? If so, maybe copy the files from the DVD into a folder on the hard drive named "Windows 7" and then run Setup from there.

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#17
June 29, 2009 at 15:57:19
Rayburn, thanks for the suggestions. I don't think using an IDE drive will solve the problem.

I haven't tried Vista because I don't have a Vista disk but everything I read indicates that even Vista won't install on nForce4 chipset boards.

Nvidia just released a certified driver package for the nforce3/4 series chipset and Vista. Unfortunately I can't slipstream them to the Windows 7 files.

nLite doesn't work because the OS is packed totally different than 2000/XP. The is no I386 folder at all. The solution is to use vLite, which I understand works for Vista. You can integrate Vista SPs and drivers.

However, I can't seem to get vLite to work on the Windows7 iso.

This is a good reason to build another rig. I just hate to say uncle though.

I can't find much information on this issue.


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#18
June 29, 2009 at 17:58:03
I have both nForce3 and nForce4 boards and Vista has installed on both of them.

I mentioned trying an IDE DVD drive because you said you had problems with SATA DVD drives.

Did you try installing from the hard drive from Windows?

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#19
June 29, 2009 at 18:21:46
Are you running Windows 7 on either of those systems?

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#20
June 29, 2009 at 19:04:38
Yeah I'm running Windows 7 RC on the nForce3 system. I didn't install it on the nForce4 because it only has 512MB of RAM.

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#21
June 29, 2009 at 19:08:52
Are you running 7 on an IDE or SATA drive on the nForce3 system?

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#22
June 29, 2009 at 20:08:00
I'm on IDE right now.

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#23
June 30, 2009 at 18:40:04
Curious, have you tried changing the k/b ? I know my kids rig with the beta is nf3,msi mb, 1.5 gig ddr , xp on sata, win7 on sata, ati video, amd 64 3400 (I think). Usb mouse,ps2 kb. Need more dayquil !!! Lol.

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#24
June 30, 2009 at 19:48:12
Mouse and KB are both wired PS/2 Microsoft products.

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#25
June 30, 2009 at 19:58:07
Its those gremlins again!

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#26
July 6, 2009 at 10:45:34
Hey oth. Do you have an hdmi connection? http://social.technet.microsoft.com...

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#27
July 6, 2009 at 12:20:04
Both motherboards have HDMI connections. Why?

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#28
July 6, 2009 at 15:34:46
That technet thread is sure interesting. I'm having a hard time understanding why a new OS doesn't support HDMI.

Skip


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#29
July 6, 2009 at 16:23:07
Supertrucker

I didn't notice the link in your last post. I will try using a different monitor.

I did try downloading the RC1 AGAIN and burning it using Imgburn. Tried with an empty IDE drive with and without supplying Vista nForce drivers.

I will try a different monitor later. Detroit Tigers just started playing.


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#30
July 6, 2009 at 17:20:27
Yeah I thought that thread was interesting

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#31
July 6, 2009 at 17:28:24
The wild part is the hdmi works after the setup finishes so the driver support is there just hdmi won't boot the 1st time. Wierd

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#32
July 6, 2009 at 17:37:18
Supertrucker

That was the problem. Connected my old 21" CRT to the VGA port on the nForce4 system and installed RC1 without supplying any extra drivers. Windows 7 RC1 installed without a hitch.

I then shutdown and reconnected my 22" LCD to the DVI out port and rebooted. Got a BSOD. Guess I need to install the Vista drivers before connecting to the DVI again.

Don't know how you found that thread but I am glad you did. I was beginning to have self doubt.

I will update on the nForce4 system and the 790GX-G65 board.

As I stated in another thread here, Windows 7 isn't quite ready for prime time yet.


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#33
July 6, 2009 at 18:10:57
Well kiss my scrawny white...

How in the world would any prudent person think of something like that? And, how can Microsoft engineers not check out HDMI installs?

Thumbs up Supertrucker.

Skip


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#34
July 6, 2009 at 18:15:51
Oth. Try bootin with the vga and hot swapping your monitors

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#35
July 6, 2009 at 18:24:23
On the technet post they swapped with 7 running and it installed the drivers. Btw welcome to 7 oth. Technet guys get the kudos.

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#36
July 6, 2009 at 18:55:19
Well, I am here on RC1/IE8.

Hot plugging worked. Then went to install the nForce unified Vista drivers. When installing the screen came up "installing nForce Windows 7 drivers. I am not sure the hell happened. If the drivers are in 7 or it just renamed the Vista drivers.

Anyway, here I am with 5 minutes in 7 and about 10 in Vista. Talk about a noob.

Think I will back track to XP and play with 7 at my leisure.

Thanks to all that posted here.

I have the doubious distintion of being the first, to my knowledge that had this issue. I am with Skipcox. I can't believe MS didn't catch this.

Still don't know is the SATA drivers will be an issue with the nForce4 (this rig) if I try installing to one of my sata drives. I currently have a 60 GB IDE hanging out the side of the case. Tomorrow I will try the new rig with the CRT monitor.


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