Solved Cannot install XP Pro on new hard drive

March 28, 2012 at 14:06:08
Specs: Windows XP Pro, 1.8GHz 1GB memory
Need a larger hard drive - new drive not recognized in Dell Latitude C640 starting from BIOS. Formatted and partitioned externally via USB and still not recognised by BOS. Do I have to change letter allocation from E to C and how to do this.

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March 28, 2012 at 16:15:17
Did you remove the adapter board off the old hard drive and install it on the new one ?

replacement hard drive not recognised for lattitude C640
http://en.community.dell.com/suppor...

Excerpt:

The C640 uses something Dell calls an interposer board to convert the 44 pin array of the drive connector to something that looks like a circuit board. If you don't move that adapter from the old drive to the new one, the new drive will not be connected to the main board, and naturally, will not be seen by the computer.
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The Latitude C640 never came with a hard drive larger than 120 gb but it's bios doesn't have a 137gb manufacturer's size = 128 gb binary size limit.

E.g. These are all larger than that.

Latitude C640 Hard Drive Replacement
http://memoryx.com/dell-latitude-c6...

http://www.archmemory.com/ram.cfm/D...

(Even if it did, any drive larger than that would still be be detected, but as 128 gb by the bios. There ARE bugs in older bios versions made previous to about 2000 that limit what the bios can recognize to 32 gb or 64 gb, or that can cause the bios to not recognize a drive larger than that at all, but if it already recognizes 120 gb drives, there's no bios bug that limits it detecting drives larger than that, even when the max is 128 gb, binary. )



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March 28, 2012 at 14:37:04
If the HDD isn't being recognized, it would seem that it isn't connected properly. How big is the drive? Over 120GB? Did you confirm your old laptop supports 48-bit LBA? Even so, the HDD should be recognized by the BIOS even if it isn't supported. My guess is a bad connection.

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March 28, 2012 at 14:42:21
The drive is 60GB. I place the new drive in, boot and select F2 to get into BIOS, select DVD/CD drive first and with XP Pro disc in, get message hard drive not found. Replace with original 20GB drive with XP Pro on it and boots just fine which would seem to rule out connection problems.

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#3
March 28, 2012 at 14:54:12
The HDD has to be identified by the BIOS. There may be something YOU have to do to get the BIOS to configure the drive settings.

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#4
March 28, 2012 at 15:01:29
THAT is what I am asking! What?

Have partitioned and formatted externally via USB and still sees no drive.

Place new drive in, boot and enter BIOS, select CD/DVD in position 1 and enabled, ENTER and still get no drive found message.


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#5
March 28, 2012 at 15:39:08
"still get no drive found message"

That doesn't necessarily indicate the bios isn't recognizing the hard drive.


Your problem can be caused by....
- you don't have the network boot option in the correct place in the Boot Order or similar settings in the bios Setup

- you DO have that set correctly but
- the bios is not detecting your hard drive at all
- or - the bios is detecting the hard drive but it's not finding that it's bootable (has an operating system installed on it)

Also - reasons why your hard drive may not be detected as bootable by the bios.

See Response 1:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...
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If it's a SATA hard drive....

Installing XP and SATA drive controllers, SATA drives; the SATA drive controller bios settings.
See response 2:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...
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" Formatted and partitioned externally via USB and still not recognised by BOS."

The hard drive does not have to have any data on it in order for it to be detected by the bios.

All new hard drives have no data on them.

The XP CD will software partition and format a blank drive.

It can't be detected as bootable by the bios until / unless an operating system has been installed on it


" Do I have to change letter allocation from E to C and how to do this."

That is of no concern for a new hard drive on a laptop that only one hard drive can be installed on .

The partition Windows itself is installed on will be assigned C by XP's Setup


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#6
March 28, 2012 at 15:53:00
32 gig limit has been passed. Update bios if you can or you need to set settings on the drive if you have them. Might have to get a smaller drive.

Info. http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.j...

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#7
March 28, 2012 at 16:01:41
You're not paying attention. You have to get the drive recognized in the BIOS. It has nothing to do with partitioning, formatting, or the CD/ DVD drive "position". Look in the BIOS for something like IDE configuration.

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#8
March 28, 2012 at 16:15:17
✔ Best Answer
Did you remove the adapter board off the old hard drive and install it on the new one ?

replacement hard drive not recognised for lattitude C640
http://en.community.dell.com/suppor...

Excerpt:

The C640 uses something Dell calls an interposer board to convert the 44 pin array of the drive connector to something that looks like a circuit board. If you don't move that adapter from the old drive to the new one, the new drive will not be connected to the main board, and naturally, will not be seen by the computer.
.........

The Latitude C640 never came with a hard drive larger than 120 gb but it's bios doesn't have a 137gb manufacturer's size = 128 gb binary size limit.

E.g. These are all larger than that.

Latitude C640 Hard Drive Replacement
http://memoryx.com/dell-latitude-c6...

http://www.archmemory.com/ram.cfm/D...

(Even if it did, any drive larger than that would still be be detected, but as 128 gb by the bios. There ARE bugs in older bios versions made previous to about 2000 that limit what the bios can recognize to 32 gb or 64 gb, or that can cause the bios to not recognize a drive larger than that at all, but if it already recognizes 120 gb drives, there's no bios bug that limits it detecting drives larger than that, even when the max is 128 gb, binary. )


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#9
March 28, 2012 at 17:36:17
"Did you remove the adapter board off the old hard drive and install it on the new one ?"

Good call. I've encountered that when working on some older laptops.


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#10
March 29, 2012 at 13:22:39
Many thanks Tubesandwires that was precisely what it was. Had the laptop since 2003 with maximum memory and wireless card and the first time I had to go inside. Marked as best answer.

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#11
March 29, 2012 at 16:16:52
We're glad to hear you solved your problem.

Thanks for the thanks.

Manuals
Dell™ Latitude™ C540/C640 Service Manual
http://support.dell.com/support/edo...

Hard Drive
http://support.dell.com/support/edo...


Strangely, it's not mentioned in that, and I found no picture of it elsewhere in the manual.

However, if you search on the web using something such as : replace C640 hard drive
you find a few "hits" that mention it.

E.g. another one....

Latitude C640 Hard Drive Upgrade
http://en.community.dell.com/suppor...

Excerpts:

Posted by Zaccarium on 17 Jan 2007 5:28 AM

Thanks again Dazzy. I will do that.

Could you please tell me if the following drive will fit into the Latitude C640?

I am asking this because the connector shown on this web page is different from the connector of the drive that's in my Latitude [click on the image of the connector to see].

Thanks a lot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

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Posted by dazzyb2k3 on 17 Jan 2007 10:06 AM
rated by 0 users Re: Latitude C640 Hard Drive Upgrade

That's absolutely fine. It looks different because the C640 has a black connector which pushes onto the pins. You will need to pull this off your existing drive (it can be quite tight - but it does pull off, I promise you!) and fit it onto the pins on the new drive.

It only goes on one way so you should have no problem figuring it out!


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#12
March 29, 2012 at 18:54:03
I also had been right through the Dell User Manual and the Service Manual for replacing the drive with no mention. After your drawing my attention to it only one answer - d'uh!

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