Bootmgr not detected.

Hewlett-packard Presario cq61z with amd...
February 8, 2010 at 15:49:45
Specs: XP Sp3, 2 GHz / 2550 MB
"BootMGR is missing"
"Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart".

Had Win Xp with Sp3
1 GB ram (Kingston KVR ram)
Cant say any thing about processor or Motherboard..( Has AMD Sempron GIGABYTE, dont know if that is of help?)

it was supposed to be a simple reinstallation of the OS but it turrned out very bad. The computer (belongs to a friend of mine) had win XP on it, plus it had over a ton of virus and bad registery entries so i started to do a fresh installation. My friend said he'd like win 7 on it so i used a copy on his, booted from the cd. I reached the advanced option to select the drives to install the OS. I formatted successfully and then installation started. About 2 mins into installation i got an error stating cannot read drivers from source. I thought that maybe my CD was scratched bt got same problem with a clean copy. I then tried to install with XP SP3 but the disc was not beng detected. ( It kept saying OS cd not detected insert correct cd and press enter) i tried Vista installation, it got detected and then when i got to advanced option screen.....there were no Harddrives or media sources!!!!!) I checked it out online and the told me to try formatting the drive ( i took it out and connected it to another computer and tried formatting there, it took about 15 mins formatting and then told me formatting was uncessfull. I tried it in disc management and i was told formatting cannot be completed!. when i checked back the status in My Computer, the harddrive had no space allocatons! (the harddrive is partitioned into 2) and both had zero space available. So i was ready to declare the drive crashed...but comes a surprise.....i tried it back a couple hours later and believe it or not both partions were able to be formatted!!!) Anyways i connected it back to the computer i was fixing, tried loading an OS installation...and now i get the message ........

"BootMGR is missing"
"Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart". !!!

I am quite fed up with this harddrive plz replay as fast as possible.


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#1
February 8, 2010 at 16:50:24
Do yourself a favor: Next time when requesting assistance, never demand that folks reply ASAP/AFAP!

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#2
February 8, 2010 at 17:10:48
I would delete all existing partitions. Recreate the partitions , format and install windows on the first one.
I use this to setup my drives for os install:
http://distrowatch.com/index.php?di...

but you shold be able to do this with any of the windows cd's you have.

larry


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#3
February 8, 2010 at 17:22:29
I'm assuming the subject computer is a laptop.

"BootMGR is missing"
"Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart"

Found on the web....

" When you start boot up Vista system, and encounter the following error message, you have probably messed up the important system files and landed in great trouble:

BOOTMGR is missing. Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart.

The error happens when you delete, accidentally or intentionally vital Vista system files........ "

The error is probably the same for Windows 7.

Your Vista installation is messed up, probably in this case caused by data corruption.

"About 2 mins into installation i got an error stating cannot read drivers from source."

You should NEVER have a problem reading files from the Windows disk while running Setup, if it's an original disk, and it's clean and has no major scratches.

If it's a copy, a CD-R or DVD-R should read fine, but another type of burned disk may NOT read fine in a drive it was not made in.

When you DO have a problem reading files from the Windows disk while running Setup, it can be caused by a problem the optical drive is having reading the disk, and/or a ram problem .

The laser lens on your optical drive may be dirty. Eject the tray for it - usually you can easily see and clean the laser lens on a laptop with a tissue or a clean soft cloth when there is no disk on the tray.
Or - use a laser lens cleaning CD. If you don't have one, most places that sell DVDs and CDs have them, or even some "dollar" stores have them for a buck or two.

"i tried Vista installation, it got detected and then when i got to advanced option screen.....there were no Harddrives or media sources!!!!!)"

"I checked it out online and the told me to try formatting the drive ( i took it out and connected it to another computer and tried formatting there, it took about 15 mins formatting and then told me formatting was uncessfull. "

Unsuccessful ?

"I tried it in disc management and i was told formatting cannot be completed!. when i checked back the status in My Computer, the harddrive had no space allocatons! (the harddrive is partitioned into 2) and both had zero space available. "

If it quit formatting before that was finished, that indicates there's something wrong with the hard drive, and/or, usually, something wrong with the connection of the ram in it's slot(s).
When you're formatting from the disk, the formatting program loads into memory and the the disk is not accessed until the formatting finishes or the formatting program quits.

".....i tried it back a couple hours later and believe it or not both partions were able to be formatted!!!) "
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You have a ram problem, and/or your hard drive may be failing !!!

Rule out a poor connection of the ram in it's slots.......

See response 2 in this - try cleaning the contacts on the ram modules, and making sure the modules are properly seated:
http://www.computing.net/hardware/w...

For a laptop, or netbook, you must remove both its main battery and AC adapter before you do that.

For a brand name computer, see the Owner's or User's manual if you need to - how to remove or replace the ram is usually in that - it may already be in your installed programs. If you can't get into Windows, it may be on a disk that came with the computer, or you can go online and look at it or download it - it's in the downloads for your specific model.
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Try a memory diagnostic utility that takes a lot less time to run a full pass than memtest86 doe - this one is pretty good - Microsoft's Windows Memory Diagnostic:
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag...
It can be toggled (press T) to do a standard or a more comprehensive set of tests - use the default 6 test one first - if it passes one pass of that, use the latter one. A few of the tests in the latter set are intentionally slower.
If you don't have a floppy drive, see the Quick Start Information at that Microsoft link for how to make a bootable CD of the Windows Memory Diagnostic (you need Windiag.iso - you don't necessarily need to use the program they mention).
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NOTE - if the ram fails the diagnostic tests, that does NOT necessarily indicate it's"bad" ram ! If it's not the original ram, it may be incompatible ram !

If you DO get ram errors, try re-seating the ram and trying the diagnostics again.

If you STILL get ram errors, remove the ram and tell us the brand and module part numbers on them - either the HP part number, or the ram manufacturer's part number.
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After the ram passes the ram diagnostics....

Check your hard drive with the manufacturer's diagnostics.
See the latter part of response 1 in this:
http://www.computing.net/windows95/...

(thanks to Dan Penny for this link:)
Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm...

If you don't have a floppy drive, you can get a CD image diagnostic utility from most hard drive manufacturer's web sites, but obviously you would need to make a burned CD, preferably a CD-R for best drive compatibilty, on another computer if you need to.

If the hard drive itself tests okay, any data problems found can be fixed, one way or another.


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#4
February 8, 2010 at 17:38:24
To Sabertooth
Sheesh, i copied and paste the request from another blog that wasnt giving me any kind of response, if i insulted you then sorry...not everything ppl writes online means the exact....

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#5
February 8, 2010 at 18:00:52
To larryf215
I will try your stuff first and see how it goes. Thanks for your reply.

To Tubesandwires
It is a desktop that i am referring to, won't the same advices apply to desktop as well as a laptop?
A million thanks for all of your advice and tips, i will do everything that you specified and get back to you as soon as i am able to.


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#6
February 8, 2010 at 19:10:58
"Do yourself a favor: Next time when requesting assistance, never demand that folks reply ASAP/AFAP! "

We who regularly answer here are all volunteers. We help out when we have the time to spare. Whether you get an answer to a recent topic in a short time is random chance, but on this site, especially in the Hardware, XP, and Vista forums, you probably will get an answer or answers within a day.
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We much prefer you specify the make and model of the problem computer or mboard in your initial post's blue bar info - if you don't, we much prefer you state the make and model of the problem computer in the body of the first post.

We who answer regularly end up wasting a lot of time sometimes providing info that doesn't apply, when we don't have that info.

Your first post has nothing in the body of the text that definately indicates it's a laptop or desktop .
I assumed by

"Product: Hp (hewlett-packard) Presario cq61z with amd sempron- tm processor for notebook pcs m100 - 2.0 ghz; 160gb hd; 2gb memory"

that it's a laptop.
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Most is the same for a desktop except

- you would have no choice but to use a laser lens cleaning CD to clean the laser lens in the optical drive if you wanted to clean that.

- if you have more than one optical drive, try the disk in another drive.
However, many mboard bioses will only boot a bootable disk from one optical drive - in that case, you go into the biosand find the list of optical drives, and make thedrive you want to boot from the first one in the list, Save bios settings.

- you may have all sorts of weird problems problems if the desktop power supply is failing. Make sure the current voltage readings in the bios for it are okay, and that it's fan(s) is(are) spinning okay.
See response 4 in this:
http://www.computing.net/hardware/w...

- It is common to un-intentionally damage IDE data cables, especially while removing them - the 80 wire ones are more likely to be damaged. What usually happens is the cable is ripped at either edge and the wires there are either damaged or severed, often right at a connector or under it's cable clamp there, where it's hard to see - if a wire is severed but it's ends are touching, the connection is intermittant, rather than being reliable.
Another common thing is for the data cable to be separated from the connector contacts a bit after you have removed a cable - there should be no gap between the data cable and the connector - if there is press the cable against the connector to eliminate the gap.
80 wire data cables are also easily damaged at either edge if the cable is sharply creased at a fold in the cable.

Try another data cable if in doubt.


Check your SATA data cables. The connector on each end should "latch" into the socket on the drive and on the mboard, or on the drive controller card - it should not move when you merely brush your hand against it near the socket - if it does, mere vibration can cause a poor connection of it - use another SATA data cable that does "latch", or tape the connector in place.
(There is a slight projection or bump on one side of the outside of the connector that "latches" it into the socket - it's easily broken off or damaged)

The same thing applies for the SATA power connection.


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#7
February 9, 2010 at 03:26:16
To Tubesandwires
Hi I am sorry for the mix up, but those are the specs for the suggested product byt CN, i tried to leave it blank because i was not able to get the required info that i was asked, that is why at the start of my message
i told what i knew

(Had Win Xp with Sp3
1 GB ram (Kingston KVR ram)
Cant say any thing about processor or Motherboard..( Has AMD Sempron GIGABYTE)

The blue bar has a mix up of my personal computer ( a LT) specification when it was scanned...

My net conked out on me last night as soon as i finished with the replies so ill work on thecomputer this morning and get back to you.

And once again to you now, i never DEMANDED a reply ASAP, i noted a ''please'' if you want a different statement then i guess i should have said ''reply when able'' , like i also said, not everything people say means exact, so my apologise to you and for the misunderstanding. Once agian thank you for your time and effort.


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#8
February 9, 2010 at 06:01:18
OMG, this just got weirder and and has me feeling like i am going around in circles. I deleted both partitions and recreated them. The message of ''bootmgr not detected'' dissapeared. However my xp installation disks were not reading....fresh copies along with originals. Win 7 installation got up to gathering information and then give me the following message:

''A required CD/DVD drieve device is missing. If you have a driver floppy disk, CD,DVD, or USB flash drive, please insert it now.
Note: If the windows installation media is still in the CD/DVD drive, you can safely remove it for this step.

I took it out and tried with vista, it loaded but while it was ''expanding files'' message popped up telling me that it installation cannot read from disc source, i restarted with another copy to try, but then I have back the message of ''Bootmgr undetected.....''

I am going to get a floppy as soon as a store nereby opens and then try the mem test to see if I can get any info from that.

All cables are connected properly i took out the ram and put it in back.

Your continued help will be highly appreciated.


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#9
February 9, 2010 at 09:58:42
how long did it take to format?
Now, while the drive is blank, would be a good time to test it with the manufacture's utility. You will have to determine the manufacturer first. if it does not pass, this could be the problem.

larry


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#10
February 9, 2010 at 11:12:33
You can change the info in the blue bar in the first post when you first make a new Topic when you supply the info for it, but not after that.
Otherwise, you can Edit any of your own posts on this site, for a limited time, in the main body of the post - just click on Edit at the top of your posts.
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When your Windows is working, if you RIGHT click on My Computer, select Properties, the processor type and speed is shown on the right on the first window you see.

It's speed is always shown in the mboard's bios Setup.
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Tell us the make and model of your brand name system, or if you have a generic desktop system, the make and model of the mboard.
The specific model of a brand name system is shown on a label on the outside of the case somewhere, or it can often be determined by going to the brand name's web site.
The model, sometimes the make, of a mboard in a generic desktop system is usually printed on the mboard's surface in obvious larger characters, often between the slots.

The model is often also displayed on a logo (graphical) screen early in the boot, but it's often not as specific as the specific model number.

For Dell computers, they have a Service Tag number - the specific model can be determined by using that on their site, or can often be determined there automatically by you downloading some software. The Service Tag number should be on a label on the outside of the case, probably on the bottom on a laptop, on the back on a desktop, and is often also shown in the bios Setup.
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Sometimes people take my posts too seriously. I'm not p..... o.. at you. I was simply explaining why Sabertooth might react that way, on a bad day. Yes, I noticed the please.
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Check out EVERYTHING concering what could be wrong and do everything I asked you to do in Response 3 and 6 BEFORE you try to install an operating system again, otherwise you're likely to continue to have problems, and you'd be wasting our time.

If the hard drive and/or optical drive is IDE, if in doubt, replace the data cable - they're cheap if you get them from a place that has lots of computer related parts.

You can't rely on the result of ram diagnostics tests unless you have at least tried re-seating the ram, or better still, you have tried cleaning the contacts on the modules.

If you have changed which ram you have installed, or in any case, not all ram is compatible with using it in your mboard.
If you have a brand name system and haven't changed the ram that came with it when it was new, it's compatible, but otherwise, it may not be. Incompatibe ram will probably fail ram diagnostics tests, especially likely when more than one module is installed (sometimes incompatible modules test fine individually).

You can't rely on the result of hard drive diagnostic tests unless the data cable to the drive is fine, and the ram diagnostics show the ram is producing no errors.


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#11
February 10, 2010 at 20:58:49
Ok, problem solved,

Well i heard some ticking this morning, the CD drives were/are almost dead!

I took out another drive and tried installing and it worked perfectly.

Thanks for your diagnostics Tubesandwires I am very grateful :)
It will help me in future mishaps if i ever encounter any related problem like it.
Sorry once againg for any mixup or bad momments we might have had.


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#12
February 11, 2010 at 06:49:08
We're glad to hear you solved your problem.

I should have mentioned the definite possibility of a failng optical drive. They don't last forever.

A failing optical drive can cause all sorts of weird symptoms.

Usually the thing that fails first is the sleeve bearings in the motor have deteriorated to the point the motor can no longer reliably spin it's full rated speed - eventually it can't even spin to 1X speed, the original standard audio CD speed, or it stops spinning.
If you have more than one optical drive, a failing one on the same data cable as another one can cause both drives to malfunction.
I had a Creative one that caused long delays while booting because it couldn't get to 1X speed.

The second most common reason of optical drive failure is a laser or it's circuits have burned out or the circuits for one are malfunctionig. Burner drives have at least two lasers.


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#13
February 11, 2010 at 22:29:30
Yes, well there were 2 drives a CD and A DvD with burner. The DvD drive was the one misbehaving. It was not reading all the time so I'll assume that is its motor going. The CD drive i am not so sure, i didnt test it with the new drive to see if the computer could have booted up.

Once again many thanks to you.


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