Bad Blue Light!

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September 7, 2009 at 14:45:41
Specs: Windows Vista, Amd Althlon 64 X2 4400+
OK this is my problem, I had one of my computers in a shed for 1 week and I take it out to set it back up.... well I'm setting it up I plug in the power and see a blue light EVEN when its not powered on... so I go and finish plugging it up and try to turn it on... All i get is 1 short beep and 1 long beep... no other video or anything. Well I remove part by part to see if the blue light goes off... it won't. I tested a different power supply etc. and it won't go off! I even removed the removable BIOS chip (BTW this is a AMI BIOS) and the blue light persists. The only way that it will stop beeping (when all the essential components are in) is if the BIOS jumper is on clear (which on this model you get no video)

So... I plugged in a Diagnostics card... and I get the Error 00 Which makes no sense..

Does anyone have ANY idea?


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#1
September 7, 2009 at 15:14:37
Beeps during a boot almost always indicate a RAM or a video card problem.

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#2
September 7, 2009 at 16:05:02
So exactly where was the source of the blue light?

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#3
September 7, 2009 at 17:11:58
OH! sorry i did not explain... my Blue light is my Power light..

And no not every beep is a RAM/Vid Problem


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#4
September 7, 2009 at 17:28:38
1 short and 1 long doesn't correspond to a generic AMI error. Check the motherboard manual. It may list the codes that apply to yours.

Googling "beep code" "1 short and 1 long" shows it's probably a ram error or some non-specific 'system board failure'.


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#5
September 7, 2009 at 17:36:18
Just Switched my RAM around... also i tried a Verified RAM chip and it still wont work.. so its obvious that its NOT a RAM problem...
I know in all chances that this most likely is a bad board but i was wondering How did it happen.... no static Discharge.... no exploded capacitors... i was also wondering if i could save it

I also Googled "beep code" "1 short and 1 long" but i added AMI and no hits.. so... I dont know.

Also i looked thru my user manual and it does not contain anything about codes (its one of those Foxconn Cheapy Manuals a "quick Guide") They cant seem to create a real manual.


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#6
September 7, 2009 at 19:12:38
>>>"How did it happen.... no static Discharge.... no exploded capacitors... i was also wondering if i could save it"<<<

You mention having retrieved it from a "shed". I'm hoping you don't mean something of an outside (i.e.-very humid) nature. That itself could cause a host of problems. While I keep a load of PC's stored in my basement, a dehumidifier runs most of the summer months to keep things dry...


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#7
September 7, 2009 at 20:18:44
The support page for the motherboard may have a download for a more detailed manual.

Leave out the 'and' in the google search ( I think that's what I originally did) and add the 'ami'. You'll get some hits. I looked through some but couldn't find anything helpful.


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#8
September 7, 2009 at 20:41:54
This is the foxconn beep code faq:

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/en-us...

Your 1 short and 1 long would seem to fall under the 'all other beeps' as a memory related error.

It might be the ram sticks or the slots. Blow all the dust out with some compressed air, hitting the ram slots really good. Make sure slot and stick contacts aren't tarnished. Sometimes taking a pencil eraser to the the stick contacts will help.


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#10
September 8, 2009 at 05:42:04
Yes it was in an Outside Area AND yes it was raining.. but it had 1-3 days of dry temperatures... I did not see any condensation.

Also i tried the memory suggestion... even with the memory removed (as stated Above) the blue light stays on (my power light) That should not happen.... I was Thinking Maybe Onboard RAM? or is that the same as the BIOS.
Thanks for all your help And esp the help with the foxconn beep code list


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#11
September 8, 2009 at 13:59:17
Sometimes there will be an LED on the motherboard that will remain on as long as AC is applied to your power supplly--even when the computer is turned off. So I don't know if you're talking about that or the power LED on the front panel. (Most of the time those LED's are green but I guess you have a blue one.) If it's the power LED then something else is going on. If it's on the motherboard then pulling the AC cord from the rear of the power supply should cause the LED to fade out after a few seconds. You should have that cord removed anyway when working inside the case.

You should assume the problem is with the ram because if it's not then it's the motherboard. Try swapping out your existing ram with other compatible ram and see if you have the same problem.

Bios isn't the same as on-board ram. On-board ram may include video ram if you have an on-board controller or ram for caching purposes. But that's all soldered to the motherboard and not easily replaced. The ram we're talking about is the sticks that mount in the slots.


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#12
September 8, 2009 at 14:55:32
yes i'm talking about the front panel connector... and yes when i unplug the AC power cord from the back it will fade... and i know what we are talking about so far as ram and i do have an onboard video controller.. as stated above i did swap certified ram out and it still wont work... thanks in advance :P

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#13
September 8, 2009 at 16:33:36
Try unplugging the monitor from the PC and see if that shuts the LED off. I recall one instance here where a monitor was feeding a current through the video card to the motherboard. I don't remember if it was lighting the LED's but that's the only reason I can think of why the power LED would be on when the PC is off.

I don't know if that particular problem is a symptom of why it's not booting or if it's just the way your PC is.


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#14
September 8, 2009 at 18:31:51
i have the computer completely disconnected from anything but power...

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#15
September 8, 2009 at 20:32:41
Forget about the LED for now. You say you removed hardware. Did you just do that to see if the LED goes out or did you also try booting up to see if you get a posting screen? If you haven't attempted a boot up with minimal hardware only--ram, cpu, video card--then do it now. Do that with the swapped ram if you haven't done so already.

Have you swapped out the video card?

If still nothing and the beeps do indicate a ram problem then maybe it's on the motherboard and not the sticks themselves.


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#16
September 9, 2009 at 06:27:22
yes i tried the above and it wont post.... and thats correct, i did remove the hardware to see if the light would fade, and no it did not.

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#17
September 9, 2009 at 10:56:46
And you've swapped out the video card?

I think the only thing left is some unknown problem with the motherboard. You might try bench testing it; that is, take it out of the case and just connect the PSU to it. But since the mobo wasn't previously removed I doubt that will help. However, it might allow you to better examine the motherboard and see if you can detect any damage.


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#18
September 9, 2009 at 14:49:22
been there done that... and yes i swapped vid cards... have done all the things posted on this page before posting here...
I'm guessing my board is a goner.

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#19
September 9, 2009 at 16:49:22
The 'remote diagnosis' you get from an online site like this isn't perfect but yeah, it sounds like a bad motherboard.

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#20
September 9, 2009 at 19:29:39
Yea, Thanks DAVEINCAPS you were nice to go out of your way to help me :P

i guess we should add some tags if someone else has this problem?

Also... i was wondering... What is the "host of problems" that come from humid air?


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#21
September 9, 2009 at 23:27:04
I live in the desert so my problem is usually static buildup from the dry air. In humid air I suppose you'd worry about condensation if the temp drops below the dew point since the dew point is higher in areas of high humidity.

But I tend to think the problem came from some mishap while you were moving and storing it. Or, I had one person who had a mouse crawl into his case through a open card slot and make a mess inside.


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#22
September 10, 2009 at 06:11:43
that's the thing though... there was no moisture on the board or any components at the time i plugged it in.

I guess what you said about the moving or storing would make sense... but kinda not... i move this computer at least once a month to go network with some of my family members and it has never caused a problem even in the back of a pickup.


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#23
September 10, 2009 at 17:14:19
Yeah, it shouldn't cause a problem but unless it was a huge coincidence that it conked out at the time you moved it then the moving or storage must be the reason.

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