another problem- no beeps....

Award modular bios / V6.00pg
March 2, 2011 at 14:19:34
Specs: Windows XP home, 256RAM
Now when my computer boots, there are NO beeps. It seems to be running fine, but there is nothing on the screen. I think I have fried something.

When I was looking at the inside and the motherboard, etc, there were a lot of cables that weren't attached to anything. Just kind of hung there. (wires with plastic white ends and long white strip cables running through the hard drive, but they weren't connected.

Are these old wires from other drives? I know this sounds bad. lol. thanks in advance. dm.



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#1
March 2, 2011 at 16:00:07
Is this the same MSI mboard that was giving you the "no msi smart key is present" message ?

If you supply the MSI model, then we can attempt to find you a manual - see my post in your other Topic - or if yours is MSI K7T266 Pro2 I have already found it.
See response 11:
http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

Even if that's not your model, info in it could be useful to you.
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You could try re-seating the ram.

See response 2 in this - try cleaning the contacts on the ram modules, and making sure the modules are properly seated:
http://www.computing.net/hardware/w...
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You don't need to worry about wiring that is disconnected, unless you think you might have un-plugged it and forgotten to plug it back in,or you might have accidentally knocked it off whatever it was connected to.

Unplug the case/power supply, or switch off the AC power to it otherwise.
Power off your monitor.
Open up the case by removing the left side panel as seen when you're looking at the front of the case.
Check all the connections of the wiring to make sure they are all the way onto their pins and into their sockets, especially the main connector from the power supply. The wires close to the mboard going into the main power connector/socket should be more or less perpendicular to the mboard surface rather than at an angle. Make sure all cards in slots are all the way down in their slots.
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It is common to un-intentionally damage IDE data cables, especially while removing them - the 80 wire ones are more likely to be damaged. What usually happens is the cable is ripped at either edge and the wires there are either damaged or severed, often right at a connector or under it's cable clamp there, where it's hard to see - if a wire is severed but it's ends are touching, the connection is intermittent, rather than being reliable.
Another common thing is for the data cable to be separated from the connector contacts a bit after you have removed a cable - there should be no gap between the data cable and the connector - if there is press the cable against the connector to eliminate the gap.
80 wire data cables are also easily damaged at either edge if the cable is sharply creased at a fold in the cable.

Try another data cable if in doubt.

80 wire data cables must have the proper end connector connected to the mboard IDE header - usually that's blue, but in any case it's the one farther from the middle connector on a 3 connector data cable.
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While you're in there, if the cpu fan/heatsink has mung (dust, lint, etc.) on it, clean it off, but DO NOT use a vacuum cleaner to do that (they produce a tremendous amount of static electricity when running, and anything connected to them can discharge that to your components) - use canned air, or an air nozzle if you have access to an air compressor, or an artist's brush that can be used in small spaces, etc. It may be difficult to clean the top of the heatsink under the cpu fan - the most likely place to have mung on it - and the bottom side of the cpu fan blades unless you remove the fan. If you have a case fan, clean that too if it needs it.

Also check for mung on the video card fan and heatsink if it has that, and the power supply's openings / fan.

With the cover still off, restore the AC power, start the computer and make sure the cpu fan spins - if it doesn't spin, if you're sure the power supply is working okay, don't use the computer until you have replaced it.
If it spins too slowly, and/or if it makes rattling or screeching noises, most likely to be noticed when the computer has cooled to room temp, has not been used for a while, and then is started up, the cpu fan's bearings are failing - the cpu is likely to overheat as a result of that if it can no longer spin it's full speed - replace it as soon as you can.
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If that doesn't help....

Failing power supplies are common and can cause your symptoms.
Check your PS.
They often partially work, fans and hard drives may spin, leds may come on, yet you may get no video and the mboard will not boot all the way.
See response 4 in this:
http://www.computing.net/hardware/w...

If you can borrow a power supply from another working computer, try connecting that.

If it is failing, you can usually replace it with any decent quality standard sized standard ATX PS with the same capacity or greater.

Standard (PS/2) power supply size - 86mm high, 150mm wide, 140mm deep, or 3 3/8" h x 5 7/8" w x 5 1/2" d , or very close to that, though the depth can be more or less for some PSs.

Don't buy an el-cheapo (in quality) PS.
See response 3 in this:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...



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#2
March 2, 2011 at 16:14:26
It's common to have a lot of excess unused plugs. Power supplies generally have numerous extras just in case you want to add a 2nd hard drive, optical drive or floppy drive.

If there's no beep at startup, that usually indicates a major problem. If everything is functioning normally, there should be a single beep. A series of beeps is usually an indication of a problem with the RAM or video card. No beeps usually indicates a problem with the power supply, motherboard or CPU, but it's difficult to determine which one is the cause.

I take it you were having problems prior to this?


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#3
March 3, 2011 at 16:34:22
YOU CAN'T USE AN AGP CARD THAT SUPPORTS 1X / 2X AGP modes because doing so may damage the mboard and possibly the video card too in a short time !

See response 15 in your other Topic !
Links to the Manual and support for you mboard model in that too.
http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...


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#4
March 7, 2011 at 07:54:22
hi...sorry for the late reply... I have been reading everything, and I very grateful for your responses. So many thanks for these. I have also been reading articles about each hardware device and how it functions. I don't get all the math equations, but I can do the actual manual device repair and things on that side of it. I think the cpu fan is toast and the graphics card as well. I am going to ask a friend of mine who has worked in radio and music for 30yrs repairing, building and setting up systems to get me a new case and -hopefully- recover whatever is left on my hard drive. It seems like each device has a problem that is causing other problems, and once I fix one thing, another pops up. So; great learning experience, bad for my computer actually working properly. lol. I will update you this week as to how things are going. I am really wanting to get to the point where I can learn how to build set-up, and fix everything myself.... because it's extremely appealing to me to be able to figure all this out. why? I don't know. lol. Perhaps because I am curious, and have lots of time. I have to get some scotch for my computer guy. *winks* thanks so much. I will be back soon. Fixed my external drive, so I can load up on movies again. Happy Monday. ta. dm.


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#5
March 7, 2011 at 09:01:43
"I think the cpu fan is toast and the graphics card as well."

"If there's no beep at startup, that usually indicates a major problem."

If the video card is NOT one that is AGP and has 2X AGP support that may have damaged the mboard, then you SHOULD get error beeps if the graphics card were fried, if nothing else was wrong.

Failing power supplies are common and can cause your symptoms.
Check your PS.
They often partially work, fans and hard drives may spin, leds may come on, yet you may get no video and the mboard will not boot all the way.
See response 4 in this:
http://www.computing.net/hardware/w...

If you can borrow a power supply from another working computer, try connecting that.


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