Solved Adding RAM to a Laptop; recommendations?

Dell / Dell system inspiron 7720
October 22, 2013 at 21:11:38
Specs: Windows 8, 2.401 GHz Intel i7-3630QM/ 8052 MB DDR3 1600Mhz
So, I've had this computer for about 2 months now. (see specs)

I originally thought 8GB of ram would be more than I could ever use, considering that I had (still have, don't use) a Inspiron 1545 with 4 GB in it that I never used more than 50% of.

But, Lo and Behold! Out of memory error in a 64 bit editing program while working with a 4.5hr long 1080P video that a friend wanted me to piece together he sent me on a Bluray disc.

So my plan is, even though I'm not going to be handling many 4hr+ videos in the future, I was going to wait until my warranty expires (September next year; didn't bother with extended) and put two 8 GB sticks in place of the current 4 GB sticks, giving me 16 GB.

What I wanted to check in with you guys about is my actual RAM limit in this system. According to Intel's site, the processor is capable of addressing 32 GB of RAM. But I'm not sure the limitations of my mobo since Dell nor Windows 8 (Hate it but no choice :-E) system info will give me any information on it.

Assuming that the CPU can handle that much RAM, shouldn't the mobo be designed likewise?

~oldie
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#1
October 22, 2013 at 22:08:40
If you go to the Crucial website you can use their free & safe memory scanner which will tell you exactly what you want to know and also what it will cost. The UK site is here: http://www.crucial.com/uk/systemsca...

I've been using their memory for years and cannot fault the quality & service.

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#2
October 23, 2013 at 03:04:51
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As per the previous reply: Crucial should know.

My own thoughts re the 'out of memory message:
That's a massive file... Is it not your editing software running out of disc space it allocates for itself.
I'm reminded of Photoshop's, scratch file allocation requirements (dedicated hard drive space).


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#3
October 23, 2013 at 04:25:02
Hi OLDISGOOD,

Dell Inspiron 7720 support maximum 8 Gb memory. For upgrade recommendations for this System Model, you can refer to the link given below:

http://dell.to/17fkjAs

Thanks & Regards
Manshu S
#iworkfordell


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#4
October 23, 2013 at 05:31:43
You need to fix whatever is exhausting the RAM you have. Did you mess with the page file settings or are you letting windows handle it? Did you install other programs that load at startup & are running in the background hogging the memory? Which AV program are you running? Did you enable Windows Defender (which is part of Win8) or are you using a resource hog such as Norton or McAfee?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2020...

Try Process Explorer to monitor memory usage. It can be downloaded here:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...

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#5
October 23, 2013 at 08:41:22
Thanks for the recommendation, guys. Considering thatmy local computer supply store wanted $220 for two 8 GB sticks of generic RAM, (>_<) Crucial seems to be the best bet.

@JohnR, Their site said 16GB max. So that's what I'm going to get.

@Peet100, That's not a problem; it more of a matter of how the program works. It preloads the file in front of the player marker but it's not so good at clearing it out,and I tend to get a 1gb partition of comatose memory that I have to manually clear using the program's 'Clear Cache' function. I've talked to their tech support about this, they said (in bad English) It will be addressed in the next update. But that's most likely not going to happen, since the program's already 1.5 years old and their new version is out.

@DellMan, 8GB was the maximum that I could order the computer with. That doesn't mean that I can't put 16 in. Like I said, when the warranty expires and I feel comfortable taking off the cover, I'll try to grab some mobo numbers and do a lookup.

@riider, PF is all handled by Windows. Even if I did want to change it, I don't think I could find it in windows 8. and I'm using McAfee, which I discovered uses almost 400MB of RAM just idling, when you combine all the different processes it comprises. :-O Its the fault of the real-time protection scanner... Anyway, I still have a license for a year, but by that time I can stick the extra RAM in and who cares?

It's not like i'm trying to micromanage every KB of my precious 512MB in my Pentium 4...

~oldie
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#6
October 23, 2013 at 09:54:24
Are you sure your system is actually out of memory? Just because a program has run out of address space doesn't mean your system is low on resources. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...

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#7
October 23, 2013 at 11:29:08
Windows has a knack of pulling out the best error message it can find when you hit problems. It might not therefore be a RAM issue. Have you checked to see how much RAM it is using when you get this error - Task Manager should help?

Always pop back and let us know the outcome - thanks


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#8
October 23, 2013 at 16:23:11
I would manually try upping your paging file to 2x or 3x your memory in order to see if that makes a difference. This cost you $0. and 2 minutes. Most of Windows 7 is there behind Windows 8, it just needs to be found so be persistent. I found that the basic Back up Program is there and looks and works just like in Windows 7 (my wife has a small laptop with Windows 8).
Hopefully Windows 8.1 ('more than a service pack') will make things better, or they will need a Windows 8.2 before most of us will willingly use it.
Remember, if your system has windows 7 drivers available on their website, you can always purchase a retail version of Windows 7 and reinstall (if things become intolerable).

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#9
October 23, 2013 at 16:31:41
Hopefully Windows 8.1 ('more than a service pack') will make things better, or they will need a Windows 8.2 before most of us will willingly use it.
They're saying Win9 is going to remove the desktop entirely.

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#10
October 23, 2013 at 17:19:23
@Razor, I end up with about 250MB free, occasional 50MB spikes when I check Task Man with the file loaded and running. Win8 IS 64-bit, I wouldn't but a computer with 32-bit windows and 8 gig of ram, that would be stupid.

@derek, ditto Razor.

@Fingers, OK, after I mucked around in Control Panel for a while, I upped my PF to a minimum of 4GB. No more out of memory errors, but the lag becomes noticeable. Set it back to windows-controlled, almost instant error. Not sure what is up with this, but for the time being I'm going to leave it at 4GB. Not like I'm gasping for hard drive space either (1TB).
I opted out of the SSD option when I purchased, but am rethinking that approach now. :-)

@Razor 2nd post, If the desktop goes, I go. Period. That's when I finally get a mac despite my reservations. Not to mention removing the desktop will COMPLETELY eliminate the backwards-compatibility with any program later than win8 without an emulator, which has it's own problems. It's just trying to force people to buy Windows loser apps that aren't selling. Any here with Win8 notice a lack of any good or even usable apps in the Windows store?

~oldie
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#11
November 5, 2013 at 12:36:09
I just discovered, when using CPU-Z, that my memory speed is 800Mhz. I was told it was 1600Mhz at Dell, and all the specs I can pull for PC3-12800 ram is 1600Mhz. And I'm pretty sure Intel Turbo Boost doesn't throttle the memory speeds. Time for a call to Customer Support...

~oldie
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