A Question About Motherboards

April 18, 2018 at 21:15:49
Specs: Windows 10
just wondering if there is significant difference between Strix Z370-E Gaming and the Strix Z370-H Gaming (The Model I Have on My Wishlist). Just wondering before I buy.

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#1
April 18, 2018 at 23:30:05
Strix Z370-E has on-board WiFi & Bluetooth adapter, the H model has neither of those.

So I guess the 'E' stands for 'extra'.

All the other specs look the same to me.


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#2
April 18, 2018 at 23:50:45
ok so the one I want isn't wifi compatible? wow, guess its obvious what I'ma choose. thanks

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#3
April 19, 2018 at 09:57:30
All boards are "wifi compatible", you just need to purchase the wifi adapter separately. That's what most people do. If the motherboard's built-in wifi goes bad or the wifi standard changes, you'll be out of luck & will have to buy an adapter anyway.

BTW, do you have a Coffee Lake-S CPU? If not, you're going to have to get one. The Z370 chipset supports Coffee Lake-S only. No other 1151 CPUs will work.

"Z370 supports the new Coffee Lake-S CPUs, but interestingly Intel has not changed the socket. itself. So while you can physically install a Kaby Lake-S CPU into a Z370 motherboard or a Coffee Lake-S CPU into a Z270 motherboard, the system would not actually function."

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...

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#4
April 21, 2018 at 20:04:51
BX80684I78700K is the chipset I have.

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#5
April 22, 2018 at 06:26:54
That's not the chipset, that's the processor. Z370 is the chipset.

http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel...


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#6
April 23, 2018 at 22:37:36
Editing time will be shorter with higher ram correct?


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#7
April 24, 2018 at 02:19:47
slightly, get some decent 16GB of 2666~3200MHz DDR4 RAM

i gained 2% CPU performance running my 2133 DDR4 @ 2800MHz

DO NOT FORGET TO ENABLE XMP profile in the bios, if you do not your ram will run @ stock speeds

EDIT: SO-DIMM memory is for laptops & will not work for desktop PC's, so do not buy that

also you want to get either 4x 4 GB of DDR 4 OR 2x 8GB of DDR4 so you can use DUAL-CHANNEL configuration

here is a picture of RAM placed correctly for cual channel:
http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2007...

i5-6600K[delid]@4.8GHz/4.4GHz@1.39v LLC=6 | 2x4GB Crucial-DDR4-2133CL15@14-13-13-28 1T 2800MHz@1.37v
MSI Armor RX 570 4GB@1430Mhz core@1.25v/1915MHz memory@1.0v BiosModded

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#8
April 24, 2018 at 11:35:21
cool thx, this is the ram I plan on getting CMK16GX4M2B3000C15R.

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#9
April 24, 2018 at 14:08:52
@hidde663 hey so which process do you do first Windows installation or BIOS? or is it preference?

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#10
April 24, 2018 at 21:29:40
Generally you can do it in either order. In the case where the full CPU support is in question due to the CPU and/or Motherboard/Chipset being very new (often the first few BIOS need a little tweaking and late arriving CPU's may need the newest BIOS for support) I prefer to do the BIOS first. If the MB/CPU has onboard video, use it during the BIOS update before completing the build. Then make all permanent setting changes in BIOS set up.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#11
April 25, 2018 at 00:14:42
so it is preference ok cool. So I should download a bios update and install that to a flash drive if I want to deal with bios first correct?

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#12
April 25, 2018 at 02:52:51
i believe Z370 motherboards have a build in bios flash utility, inside the bios.
an internet cable is required ofc since it needs to download the lastest version.

as for #9 Fingers explained is perfectly.

also i See you got an unlocked SKU, i7 8700 K - 6 core 12 thread CPU which allows for overclocking :)

so be sure to buy a good aftermarket cooler (K model CPU's do not come in the box with a cooler)

look up a tutorial on on you-tube on how to hit 4.9GHz on all cores, should be quite easy on the coffee lake chip as good chips can hit 5.2 @ 1.4v

but idd stick to 1.32v~1.35v & 4.9 GHz since you're inexperienced

i5-6600K[delid]@4.8GHz/4.4GHz@1.39v LLC=6 | 2x4GB Crucial-DDR4-2133CL15@14-13-13-28 1T 2800MHz@1.37v
MSI Armor RX 570 4GB@1430Mhz core@1.25v/1915MHz memory@1.0v BiosModded


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#13
April 25, 2018 at 14:05:22
ok cool thx so much and this is the cooler I plan on getting CW-9060025-WW. Also just making sure if I decide to do bios first I should install my RAM/keyboard/flashdrive with bios update then turn on the mb have my mb connected to the internet hard lined then install the update and adjust my bios settings on the home screen?

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#14
April 25, 2018 at 16:27:53
If works then OK, I would first download to flash drive but I am a little old fashion at times.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#15
April 25, 2018 at 17:15:42
@hidde663 #12 looking this up i'm seeing that those lvs for voltage are damaging to my mb. When I do OC it'll be 4.0 to 4.2ghz what's a good voltage lv for that?

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#16
April 26, 2018 at 06:59:27
@ #15, the 8700k comes with 4.7Ghz out of the box, so i quess doing nothng is better...

anyways like i said watch some youtube vids about overclocking or do not overclock at all, but than again you paid more for the K(overclockable version)

PS ive seen people running 1.4v while watercooling 24/7, i guess 1.2~1.28v is fine for aircooling as long as you do not hit 85+C while lets say video-encoding (realbench is a good program for that)
90% chance you can hit 4.8GHz on all cores @ around 1.23v if you want to play it safe

i5-6600K[delid]@4.8GHz/4.4GHz@1.39v LLC=6 | 2x4GB Crucial-DDR4-2133CL15@14-13-13-28 1T 2800MHz@1.37v
MSI Armor RX 570 4GB@1430Mhz core@1.25v/1915MHz memory@1.0v BiosModded


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#17
April 26, 2018 at 13:45:39
Ok I'lll try that.

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#18
April 26, 2018 at 18:50:07
Important!! When overclocking lock the voltage manually first to the same as it was shipped stock, then increase the speed in small steps and test it. IF it fails or crashes AND the temps are low enough you up the voltage in small steps until it is stable at that clock. If the temps are still good then you up the OC a little bit more until it becomes unstable during testing. If the temps are still good you can continue, if they are high then it is best to back down a little bit until it is both stable and reasonable in the temps. Your first steps can be to a little lower than what many are reporting they are getting with your set up but it is important to take it in small steps and take your time. A small step in voltages is as little as 0.02 increase and often is all you need.
Contrary to some opinions it is not necessary to go to the absolute maximums possible, especially when the temps are climbing and you are looking for a work or gaming computer and really need 24/7 reliability.
I recommend getting a good quality air cooler with a 120mm or larger fan for overclocking, it can be as good as most of the self contained liquid systems and is many times more reliable.

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#19
April 27, 2018 at 21:31:01
Be sure to bench-test all your hardware before installing it in the case. It's an extremely important step that 1st time builders often skip.

How to Bench Test, Build, and Troubleshoot Your Computer

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#20
April 28, 2018 at 11:20:49
hey riider just do me a favor and explain what this part of the guide is saying. "If you are using an Intel CPU, make sure NOT to use the third party SATA connectors."

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#21
April 28, 2018 at 17:13:57
Many boards have primary SATA ports + extra 3rd party SATA ports. The primary ports are connected to the motherboard chipset & the extra ports connected to a 3rd party SATA controller. 3rd party controllers are somtimes inferior & shouldn't be used unless you run out of primary ports.

For example, the Z370 chipset supports up to 6 SATA ports (see link in response #3). If you were to buy a Z370 board that has say, 8 SATA ports, 2 of them would be on a 3rd party controller.

http://www.overclock.net/forum/20-h...

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#22
April 28, 2018 at 23:41:20
You know realizing this now I'm glad I did so I need to know, I have a wireless keyboard and mouse I was going to use to do the bios/windows installation. Can you use wireless or does your keyboard/mouse have to be wired.

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#23
April 29, 2018 at 05:28:11
To access the BIOS you need to use a wired keyboard. If it is not going to be your every day keyboard you can pick up a new one for very little money and store it for occasional use as needed. Most of us have a few that we did not like or has a sticky key.

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#24
April 29, 2018 at 07:42:39
ok wow yea thats a MAJOR key thing I need I never even thought about.. thx

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#25
April 29, 2018 at 09:25:04
I'm an old school/old man & prefer wired devices - mouse, keyboard, printer, network, etc. IMO, there's very little reason to use wireless anything for a desktop system. Plus we should all try to keep wifi signals within our homes to a minimum.

https://wellnessmama.com/128198/wif...


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