Your dream machine?

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November 29, 2009 at 09:33:24
Specs: Win7, max
What would you build for your dream gaming machine?

Some of the specs I have come up with so far are Quad core, PCIe for video card with 1gig onboard ram, 4 to 8gig of the fastest ram supported by the mainboard and 800 watt power supply.


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November 29, 2009 at 10:04:43
Quad core intel or amd? I will go for core i5/i7.Pcie radeon hd 5870, 2x2gb ddr3, 800w psu single 12v rail with alot of amps,p55 board or x58 board.

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November 29, 2009 at 21:17:02
"What would you build for your dream gaming machine?"

Dreams are unique to the individual. And you can't really build a dream PC anyway since there's always going to be something faster & better coming along after your "dream" build.

If you are looking to build a solid machine that will stay pretty relevant for the next couple of years -- you need to set aside at least $1000.00 for the build, unless you are looking at a bang-for-buck build.

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November 30, 2009 at 08:02:09
Sabertooth, you don't seem to believe in dreams :-)

kuwese's answer is along the lines of what I am looking for.
Intel appears to have the fastest processor right now with the i7. What's the best board for it?

What would you build for a game machine?

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November 30, 2009 at 09:33:41
Core i7 socket 1366 asus p6t deluxe/asus p6t these board have good review. Best to take i7 920 and overclock it to 3.8 or 4ghz

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November 30, 2009 at 09:39:47
Insane waste of money, but i would love to have:

Cpu: Intel Core i7 Extreme 975
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-EX58-Extreme
Gpu: ASUS Radeon 5870 (if you want xfire get 2 of these)
Ram: Ocz Triple Channel PC12800 DDR3 (look it up) 2gb x3
Psu: Ikonik Vulcan 1200W psu
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos S
Storage: Patriot Torqx 128GB ssd
Sound card: ASUS Xonar Essence ST
Cooling: Thermaltake BigWater 780

then extras if you want

Mouse: Logitech G9x laser
keyboard: Logitech G19
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster T260 LCD
Headphones: Logitech G35 Surround Sound

well thats my dream machine, just note this is a insane amount of money, i would much rather take a AMD built system with a few different things that will cost much less and only be a little slower, but then again this is a dream machine, i could build a $898 system that can come close to this, while this one will cost over $1500

I posted this in your general hardware post as well, if you want to see that $898 AMD quad core system that peforms almost just as well as this monster on up top just give a shout :)

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November 30, 2009 at 09:47:31
Now we're talking! Thanks . Must have missed your post in the General forum Apogee before I deleted that post.

Solid state drive. Hadn't considered that but talk about performance! That would be lightening.

Sure lets look at the AMD equivalent. Though $1500 for a machine I would run for 3-4 years before building a new one doesn't bother me at all.

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November 30, 2009 at 10:58:40
Cpu: AMD Phenom ii x4 965
board: Gigabyte 790FXT-UD5
RAM: Ocz duel channel DDR3 1600MHz CL8 2gb x3
Gpu: ASUS Radeon 5870, just found out that there is going to be a remake on this card called 5970, they the same except the 5970 supports xfire, and the 5870 doesnt. So get a 5970 instead.
Case: Cooler Master Haf 932

then you don't need the sound card or the cooling, those are just extras which make it better but can cut down on price. As for the rest of the extras such as keyboard, screen, ect.. not needed if you have already. If your only going to upgrade in another 3-4 years and you got money right now for anything, then go xfire with the Radeon 5970 in the biggest memory available.

Since you dont mind cash go the intel way just cause it will naturaly last longer before you need to upgrade since it is that bit faster, just change the 5870 from the intel build to 2 5970's when they come out and im sure you can keep that pc for 5 years still running strong, and by the 3rd year you can change the cpu to intels upcoming 6 core cpu's with 12 threads or just do it next year when they come out.

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November 30, 2009 at 11:38:48
hey apogee 2 5970 alone will cost $1200 and its needs monster psu. Amd decide to drop x2 and instead of call it 5870x2=5970, 5850x2=5950. X2 means one card loaded with 2gpu's

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November 30, 2009 at 11:59:07
aaahh ok i see thanks for clearing that up for me. The price which is $1200 should not be a problem for him since he said money is not a issue :) but it is damn expensive so if it is a problem just get a single 5870.

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November 30, 2009 at 12:08:07
I said $1500 wasn't a problem. $2500 is a different story. I don't think Santa is going to like me THAT much this year :-)

Turns out its around $500

Pretty COOL

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November 30, 2009 at 18:04:00
Even when money is not an object, my believe is: it should still be spent reasonably ... you won't flush $100.00 bill down the toilet just because you can, would you?

"Santa might whip up free toys for kids, but the rest of us have to pay with cash or credit, and that means the winter sky is not the limit. We’d all love to put a Core i7-975 Extreme in every stocking, but at a grand a pop, that’d be pretty ho-ho-horrific on the budget. If you want to give the gift of Intel's Nehalem architecture at 20% of the price, look no further than its Core i5-750.

To know where and why Core i5 fits into the big value scheme, we need to revisit the ghosts of Nehalem past. Originally, there was the king, Core i7 on an LGA 1366 socket interface. This monster features four cores with Hyper-Threading, yielding eight logical cores. You also have 8MB of L3 cache shared among all four physical cores and a three-channel DDR3 memory controller built into the CPU. For more on Intel's current flagship, check out our review of the Core i7-975.

Next, we got Core i7 on the LGA 1156 socket. What’s the difference? Not much! In fact, the derivative architecture was so good that we called it Intel's Mainstream Magnum Opus in our launch coverage. It included the same number of cores, Hyper-Threading as a feature of the Core i7s, and the same shared L3 cache. You merely step down to a dual-channel integrated DDR3 controller. And sure, the LGA 1366 variant gets 36 lanes of PCI Express 2.0 through X58 versus 16 built into the LGA 1136-based processor. But this is only a concern if you focus on multiple high-speed graphics cards across multiple slots.

The difference between i5 and i7 is Hyper-Threading and a bit of core clock rate. That’s it. The bottom line is that stepping down from three DDR3 channels to two and losing Hyper-Threading will generally whack 10% to 20% in performance versus today’s flagship. If that sounds grim, I’ll put it another way: you can get better than 80% of the top-end Core i7's performance for 20% of the price in a Core i5. Happy holidays, indeed!

Keep in mind that Core i5 preserves Nehalem’s Turbo Boost capabilities, which shuts down unneeded cores and uses some of their overhead to "overclock" the remaining core. Turbo Boost will take the i5-750's default speed of 2.66 GHz up to 3.2 GHz when running a single-threaded workload. Or, if you're comfortable taking the manual approach, we've taken these CPUs beyond 4GHz thanks to the maturity of Intel's 45nm manufacturing process, too.

Much (if not most) of your software may not need the eight-threaded support that Hyper-Threading—four might be plenty. The fact is that for the majority of mainstream users, Core i5-750 is an almost unbelievably good value—so good that it’s hard to justify paying more for anything until we see what Intel’s next-gen Gulftown (32nm, six physical cores) adds when it pops up in the middle of next year."

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December 1, 2009 at 07:02:03
Thanks Sabertooth. That was informative.

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December 1, 2009 at 10:01:10
Dont get i5, the p55 mobos its on doesnt have a future when it comes to more than 4 cores. Instead just get the i7 920 D0, it comes in much cheaper than the extreme edition and gives the same performance, or better yet just buy what you think is best. Here's another build which i came up with

Cpu: AMD phenom x4 955 Black Edition ( for easy oc )

Board: ASUS M4A79-T Deluxe one of the best AM3 overclocking boards and very stable goes for $190

Ram: A-Data Plus 2200+ v2.0 2gbx 2 ( 4gb kit )

Psu: Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W

Box/case: Raidmax Tornado or the more expensive cooler master Haf 932

Harddrive: Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EADS 2TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5 (Take a smaller one since this amount of space is crazy)

Graphics: Xfx Radeon 5870, and its oc'd a little i think just make sure you get the xxx edition.

Total: $1439.92 ( with the haf case )

and if you got more cash on hand buy watercooling, get another gpu and run xfire, get the Phenom x4 965 BE instead of the other, what ever you want. Or just leave it as is and it will still kick ass in everything for a long time.

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December 1, 2009 at 10:34:34
hey apogee there are core i7 which use p55 chipset and i think intel will releace more cpu on socket 1156

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December 1, 2009 at 10:55:50
its possible but im sure they will favor the 1366 socket if they go for 6 cores and up, after a while of looking to buy a i5 myself i figured it will be a waste since as soon as it came out the future of it was over.....many people say that yes more cpu's will come out for the p55 boards, but when intel goes for more than 4 cores, they will most "likely" put it only on the 1336 socket, since they will get more money out of it as well. ( and we all know intel LOVE money )

thats why i keep showing amd based systems, since the AM3 board is fairly new and has about 2-3 years of "future proofing" in it, plus amd always try to make there latest and greatest cpu's backwards compatiable.

here's others views on this matter

i guess its up to your own opinion, if he buy's a pc he said he would like to keep it around 4-5 years before upgrading fully again, and in that many years quads will be behind and 6 core cpu's will be the next thing.

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December 13, 2009 at 04:14:58
hi all

have a read of the review (4 meg pdf d/l)

seems that dream is built on the i7 ,ssd's and lots of cooling, awful case tho more a nightmare.
I suspect for 10% of their budget something approaching that spec might be even feasible.
"Dont get i5, the p55 mobos its on doesnt have a future when it comes to more than 4 cores."
how many core s do you need ? for the average desk top user?
I have a suspicion for a while now its only games driven & over hyped marketing.

The I5 does seem a more clever buy, however, and it doesn't matter its another chip set on the intel road, the performance tables dotted around the net show price/perf is as good as the i7 , that extra couple of points on a graph dont equate to any real world difference.
(im just waiting for the killer app that distinguishes them apart, & havn't seen one yet. )

interesting comments all.

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