Solved Phenom II x4 960t 3.2ghz + GTX 650 ti -- bottleneck ?

June 26, 2017 at 21:33:24
Specs: Windows 10, 4 GBs
Hi, I'm gonna get from a friend tomorrow this Phenom x4 (not sure if 3.2 Mhz or 3.0 tho) and I wanna know if this build with my GTX and 4gb of ram ddr3 1600 MHz would be enough to play some games (I've been running stuff with my dual core lately). I wanna know too if would be worth OC the Phenom/ trying to unlock the 2 additional cores or OC the GTX (using EVGA precision) to avoid a bottleneck. I mainly wanna play old stuff, like Mass Effect 3, Tree of Savior, Diablo 3, Civilization 5/6. About newest games, I was hoping to maybe play Mass effect Andromeda, Tales of Berseria and Dark Souls III on minimum, but that's about it.

Add info: the Phenom is 5 years old tho, the GTX 2 or 3 and the power source is 500w.
I can't buy anything right now, so new fans are not an option, only stock.

Just so I don't make another post... I'm gonna change the motherboard tomorrow too, will I have to re-install OS too? Or can I keep it as it is and just refresh or something so it'll install the new drives ( I'm using Windows 10).

Thanks in advance!

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June 29, 2017 at 13:08:53
6GB in single channel is better than 4GB in dual channel. You should always test RAM before putting it into service. And you should manually configure the BIOS settings, don't rely on defaults.

http://www.memtest.org/

http://www.memtest86.com/



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June 27, 2017 at 17:44:35
If you change the board, Windows will have to be reinstalled. I suggest replacing Win10 with Win7. It would help to know the make/model of the board or at least the chipset it's based on.

Your CPU has a default speed of 3.0GHz but since it's a Black Edition, it will easily overclock. It has a turbo mode of 3.4GHz so you should have no problem reaching that speed with the right board. No aftermarket cooling should be necessary. DDR3-1600 is the best RAM regardless of the latency. 4GB minimum (2 x 2GB) but more would be better. A single 4GB stick will run in single channel mode meaning performance will take a slight hit. And you didn't post the power supply specs. Wattage doesn't mean much & tells us nothing about quality.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/A...


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June 27, 2017 at 19:38:07
Hey, thanks for the answer! I didn't knew about Win7 being better for gaming or overall, going to install it definitely!

Those are the specs from the board:
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboar...

I actually noticed that my board only supports up to 1333 Mhz, so I went and bought 4gb of 1333 Mhz rams, was that a mistake? (it was cheaper too and it was nice saving money)
My friend ended up giving me 2 sticks of ram, 2gb each 1333 Mhz too, I'm wondering, what would be better now? Using the 2 sticks of 2gb for dual channel or 4gb+2gb so I end up with 6?

Sorry for that, I got a picture, hope that'll suffice:
https://pasteboard.co/2qCGZr1iE.jpg"

edit: should I turbo mode the PhenomII to 3.4 with that board and power source?

Thanks again for the answer!

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June 28, 2017 at 14:09:49
I covered a lot of those issues in your other post, but to sum up....

- poor motherboard choice due to old NVIDIA chipset
- but it DOES support DDR3-1600
- little info (at least in English) to be found about your power supply. A single +12V rail would be better than +12V1 & +12V2. Other than that, I can't comment on its quality.


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June 28, 2017 at 17:12:16
Always use RAM sticks in matched pairs for best performance since it makes the most use of the dual channel memory option. Avoid single sticks, even two single sticks purchased of the same make and model since they are not matched to each other, they will not dual channel as well.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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June 28, 2017 at 20:00:49
hey fingers, thanks for the answers too, I tested today the 4gb stick together with the 2gb stick and just after formatting the computer was frezzing like hell, I tried a few things and turns out it was the ram. I left only the 4gb stick and it's working fine now. I'ma gonna try the 2 sticks of 2gb together tomorrow since 4gb+2gb is not gonna happen

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June 29, 2017 at 13:08:53
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6GB in single channel is better than 4GB in dual channel. You should always test RAM before putting it into service. And you should manually configure the BIOS settings, don't rely on defaults.

http://www.memtest.org/

http://www.memtest86.com/


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