New Drivers = Sluggish Gameplay

June 11, 2009 at 03:48:34
Specs: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, 1.6 GHz / 767 MB
I posted a while ago about sluggish gameplay while using GTA: San Andreas. I ended up fixing it with the new copy of Windows...

Now, it's back... But I know the problem. I just recently updated my drivers to the latest nVidia drivers. This caused quite a few problems such as freezing of the PC and the screen randomly turning black, then going back to normal after a while... I think I've fixed these. But the "sluggish" gameplay in San Andreas is still there and annoying me to death since I run a GTA website and code mods for it...

The game isn't slow per say... When it runs it's at a fair speed. The FPS is down quite far from usual but not noticable until you try to record in-game. The slowness first shows when the game loads up and the menu appears. The first time the cursor moves onto a menu selection it will go in a slow motion type act... With the sound being slow and choppy...

When a game is started, the loading will get half way and then start going slow-mo again. But it's not like the sound is stopping or anything... This is actual slowing down of the sound as if someone had done it professionally xD - Then, it resumes normal speed and does it again at the end of the loading... When the game is loaded it will just be generally slow and every once in a while it'll do that slow mo thing...

I originally thought it was a DirectX problem... Then I thought it was to do with compression... Then I thought it must just be my windows... Now I'm thinking it's all about the nVidia drivers. Seems like it just doesn't wanna update without any issues...

I cannot use the driver CD I got with the video card (plus, this didn't work on the last windows) because my PC only seems to detect Primary Slaves -_- and I tried rolling back but due to multiple problems with the first installation of the drivers... I can only roll back to the same version I currently have which is no use whatsoever.

Yes, I know my PC sucks like hell and it'd be best to get a new one but until I can afford one... I'd rather suck the remaining life force outa this one. Btw, to people who read my previous topics... My hard drive is "fine" now without ticking. Hey, my PC's got a weird thing going on. It's a survivor!

What I basically want is just a way to get it working with the new drivers... Unless I need to just use old ones. In which case I'd need a link and 9 hours in which my slow internet can download it ;)

Nvidia GeFORCE 6200 AGP - Windows XP Professional SP2 - DirectX v10.0 - Driver Ver: 185.85 I think...

EDIT: Just so I'm clear on this... Me having the nvidia 6200 means I'm looking for series 6 drivers, right? As opposed to 200... If that's not the case then I think the problem is obvious.

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June 11, 2009 at 05:07:01
It doesn't matter if it says it's for the 6000 series or 200 series. Driver version 185.85 is driver version 185.85. Check the 'products supported' list:

You realize that the GF 6200 is an extremely low end card & not much good for gaming, right? Did you install the motherboard chipset drivers?

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June 11, 2009 at 05:12:23
Yes, I did. And the video card has been working great despite the fact it's "low-end". Even now, when it's not being sluggish I can experience great effects at a good FPS...

Does it matter that the link you gave me is a US version and is there any difference to the cards sold in the UK...

I assume the motherboard chipset drivers are in the CD that came with the card, right? If so, yes... I have installed them. And it worked before I installed the latest nvidia drivers.

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June 11, 2009 at 13:31:00
What you find to be acceptable gaming performance & what I (or others) find to be acceptable must be 2 different things, because the 6200 is not/was not/never will be a card I would consider for gaming.

"I assume the motherboard chipset drivers are in the CD that came with the card, right?"

They *may* have come on a CD with your motherboard but since you have an old AGP board, the drivers would be outdated. You need to know the make/model of the chipset your board is based on (ATI/AMD, Intel, SiS, VIA, etc), then download & install the latest available driver.

Are you still using the MS6712 / KT4V board that you mentioned in another thread? If so, HERE's what you need.

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June 11, 2009 at 15:56:43
Installed the chipset drivers but there's been no dfference. I also installed an alternate version of the nVidia drivers but it's still being sluggish...

Btw, San Andreas has REALLY low specs so my video card should cut right through it, just like before.

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June 12, 2009 at 09:04:46
Simply rollback the driver in the device manager.

The card will run the game fine, a integrated X1250 runs the game flawlessly.

--Graphics card specialist--

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June 12, 2009 at 09:22:06
Yes, I tried that hoping it would work... The problem was that during the installation of the new drivers, the installation failed and I installed it twice meaning a rollback results in having the same driver version as the one I had. Then, I had a message saying that there were conflicting drivers so I uninstalled it and installed it again. That's when I noticed the problem, although I believe that the conflicts are fixed. I then tried to install loads of different drivers looking for a working one.. Maybe not the best choice but I run a GTA website and make "Machinima's" with it AND make mods of the game so I have a large group of people waiting on me all around this game.

What started the first new driver install was bluescreens telling me it was in an infinite loop, which has never happened before with this driver. So I updated the drivers causing all of this stuff to go wrong... So, I guess I just need a driver that was made shortly after the release of my card to fix all this, right?

... Unless you have a fix for my motherboard only detecting anything plugged into the Primary Slave?

I might take a video of what's going wrong later.

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June 12, 2009 at 09:33:49
Okay, here's what you do:

Download a program called "DriverSweeper" from Guru3D (Link: )

Disconnect your computer from the internet (as your virus scan will not start), and boot into safe mode.

Run the DriverSweeper program and check the "Nvidia" check box and select "Clean."

After that's completed, reconnect your computer to the internet, and boot back into Windows normally. Then install the new drivers properly.

If that doesn't work, do the process again, but get an older version of the driver to instal.

--Graphics card specialist--

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June 12, 2009 at 16:05:07
For any Nvidia 6XXX series card, the best driver for older games like GTA SA is going to be 8X.XX

If you can find the forceware drivers, than even better.

PowerMac 9600(1 ghz G4)
512mb RAM
50gb SCSI
ATi 9200 PCI

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June 13, 2009 at 05:43:41
Things got better, but San Andreas has stayed the same...

I took some benchmarking tests with PCWizard...

Video Benchmark

Raster Lines (800 x 600 - 16-bit) : 60 FPS
Random Pixels (800 x 600 - 32-bit) : 4 FPS
Random Lines (800 x 600 - 32-bit) : 18 FPS
Random Circles (800 x 600 - 32-bit) : 20 FPS
Random Rectangles (800 x 600 - 32-bit) : 28 FPS
Random Text (800 x 600 - 32-bit) : 20 FPS

I notice the random pixels are wayy too slow. San Andreas usually plays at around 30fps... And still does. But when these problems occur it usually drops to below 10.

<<< Video/DirectX 3D Benchmark >>>

> Texture : 712 FPS

> Texture (Fullscreen) : 97 FPS

> Particles 3D : 15 FPS

> Vertex : 27 FPS

>> General Information
Model : GeForce 6200
Bus : PCI
Total Memory : 256 MB

>> DirectX Information
Version : 10.00
Mode : D3DX
Size of window : 640 x 480 pixels True Colors (32-bit)
Instructions : DX7/DX9

They all seem to be pretty well.

I noticed that upon deleting the d3dx9_26.dll that came with the game (it's a required directx9 file) or rather, renaming it so it's unused... San Andreas STILL started as normal... I find that odd because I'm sure without it it would usually come up with an error. Maybe the problem is related to directx and San Andreas isn't using it properly, if at all. I have directx10 (someone managed to fix it for WindowsXP) so maybe I should downgrade to Dx9c? Although I doubt it'd work.

I had footage of all these slowdowns but it is pretty useless. Because of the San Andreas problem, when I play the recorded clip the music and video are WAY out of sync. The sfx seem to be slower than the video. I import it into Sony Vegas and the audio isn't finished when the video is and it doesn't start at the right places or last for the right amount of time. A clue, maybe?

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