Solved Need simple help ASAP please about Gaming PC

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January 2, 2018 at 12:37:40
Specs: Windows 10, I5
Hello, I travel everyday for work but still wanted to game online and tried gaming laptops but without going into much detail about laptops I decided not to use them. So instead I bought this setup:

ASUS GR8 II-T069Z VR Ready Mini PC Gaming Desktop with Intel Core i5-7400 and GeForce GTX 1060

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...

ASUS VG248QE 24" Full HD 1920x1080 144Hz 1ms HDMI Gaming Monitor

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...

Thought I noticed the "desktop" is still like a laptop since it uses a DC power adapter so I wonder even though the stats look decent it will still have the power of a laptop compared to an AC powered desktop? I dont have time to build a desktop I literally work every day so I rather just buy a gaming desktop on Amazon so I can just plug it in and have it ready.

I ONLY play Quake Live. I use the lowest possible quality settings for QL I know all of the commands for that. With my current setup, for some reason 1920 X 1080 looks good on my monitor. Though my framerate drops and the game gets kinda choppy, not too bad, but makes it difficult to fight against professionals. Then I lower the resolution to 1600 X 900 and the game is way smoother and I can beat the professionals easily since they are floating around smoothly, but for some odd reason the game is very dark and faded on a lower resolution.

On my old setup I had 10 years ago changing the resolution just removed some of the sharp detail, but for some reason on this current setup the game is faded and dark. Its way smoother at a lower resolution but the negative is that I can hardly see enemies far away they look like little blurs whereas at high resolution I can see which way they facing.

So if i get a gaming desktop like this for example:

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Co...

Will it have the same power as my current ASUS desktop or is it AC based and be more powerful? Or do I need a dedicated video card is that the problem? I just want Quake Live to run smoothly at 1900 X 1080 on the lowest settings possible as it does at 1600 X 900 without it being dark and faded looking.

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January 4, 2018 at 07:18:02
In theory it should not make a difference since the typical desktop uses an internal power supply that brings the AC power down to 12V, 5V, and 3.3V for the system to use. An external power supply IF properly sized should also be able to supply all of the needs of the system. The problem might be that they did not supply a power supply with enough Amperage to run the system with the video card under all conditions of gaming. You can see if the manufacture offers a version of the power pack that has a larger available amperage and possibly a cord that can carry the greater amperage. See what the available amperage on the power pack is listed as (though they may only list the VA instead, you should be able to convert it through a Google search) and compare that to the listed system requirements for the GTX1060 card.
I have a 600Watt power supply with a good healthy amount of amperage on the 12volt rail for my i5 Devil's Canyon and GTX950Ti though I should be able to run off a quality 300Watt model as well.

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January 2, 2018 at 15:01:27
Why do you need such an expensive, hi-power system to play Quake Live? It's an 8 year old game & the system requirements are extremely low by today's standards.

http://gamesystemrequirements.com/g...

You mentioned changing the resolution to get better frame rates. Hopefully you mean the resolution within the game settings because the monitor resolution should not be changed. It should be set at whatever the native resolution is & kept that way. Other changes (brightness for example) should also be made within the game settings.

http://mrjimenez.net/images/portfol...

So when you travel, you'd rather lug around a tower, monitor, keyboard, mouse, external DVD drive & whatever else you need rather than just a laptop & mouse? Will you explain why? Also, stay away from iBuyPower or CyberPowerPC unless you custom configure the hardware. They like to cut corners on their pre-configed systems, especially the power supply.

https://www.ibuypower.com/Site/Comp...

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January 2, 2018 at 15:48:58
OK I solved the brightness issue you have to select Nividia color for that. Sorry for the confusion I do not plan to bring a big desktop with me for travel this will stay home and I will use my mini PC for travel. Yes the game is 8 years old but I cannot get the smoothness at 1920 X 1080 my frames drop too much. If I use a lower resolution in the game settings the FPS remains steady and players are nice and smooth but its harder to see them at far distances so I want a powerful PC to run this game at a smooth 1920 X 1080 at low settings.

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January 2, 2018 at 16:25:42
If the native resolution of your monitor is 1920x1080, that's what it should be - set it & forget it. The in-game resolution does not have to match the monitor resolution. Have you tried experimenting with the various resolutions in the game settings? You can also use the Console to create your own custom resolutions.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2824...

http://www.regurge.at/ql/

What are you attempting to play it on? If you look at the game requirements, the recommended graphics are: NVIDIA GeForce 7 Series or better, ATI Radeon X1800 series or better. That means that even a 5 yr old laptop with integrated graphics should get decent frame rates. Look at the following site, bottom/center. The guy's getting 56FPS on Ultra using crappy Intel GMA950 graphics.

http://www.game-debate.com/games/in...


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January 2, 2018 at 18:54:21
Yes I am not touching the native resolution only the gaming resolution. My whole main question if you look at my original post I posted what I currently have and it doesn't have enough power to run it smooth. I was asking if it is because it is like a laptop power and not as fast as a normal desktop. So if buying a normal desktop would be able to achieve smooth framerate in Quake Live. I remember in 2006 my desktop which was way weaker than what is out today could push quake live on max settings smoothly but that was on a 4:3 monitor at 1024 X 765.

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January 2, 2018 at 19:58:36
"I posted what I currently have and it doesn't have enough power to run it smooth"

Did I miss something? Is the system you're having problems with the ASUS GR8 II-T069Z? I thought you weren't lugging all sorts of hardware around when you travel? If you're getting poor game play with that setup, something's definitely wrong. Is it configured properly for the 144Hz monitor? Are you using DisplayPort? If not, you need HDMI 1.3 cable or better.

https://www.144hzmonitors.com/knowl...


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January 2, 2018 at 21:54:38
The way I read it the: "ASUS GR8 II-T069Z VR Ready Mini PC Gaming Desktop with Intel Core i5-7400 and GeForce GTX 1060" is the new machine purchased or ordered rather but not yet received/set up. Yes, this set up should have no problem with your game with those specs and should be able to play most modern games on medium to fairly high settings. On your game it should handle max settings.
Make sure that you update all of your drivers from mfg's site, graphics driver from NVidia site, uninstall any junkware the factory installed that is not necessary, and make sure that you have a good lean antivirus program running (not Norton or McAfee).

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January 2, 2018 at 23:34:55
No the ASUS GR8 is what I have used for the past year I already own it and at 250 FPS 1920 × 1080 on the lowest game settings possible the frame rate isn't silky smooth and I lose frames. My old desktop from 10 years ago I never seen the frame rate change at all even on max settings. It's not horribly bad it's very playable and a novice player would think it looks good but on a lower resolution it is super smooth and I want that smoothness at 1092 × 1080

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January 3, 2018 at 21:15:58
It sounds like you may have something running in the background that is effecting the gaming. A little housekeeping may be needed.
Uninstall anything not needed.
Update Windows.
Update to the latest full release driver for your card from NVidia site.
Run CCleaner. Run CCleaner Start Up apps and manage your start up programs so very little starts with Windows.
Scan with Malwarebytes,
Tell us what AV program you are running.

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January 3, 2018 at 21:19:57
Yup I do all those with every PC I buy. I think I may have answered my own question in the beginning. I think my setup has "laptop power" since it uses a DC power adapter. I think if I have a full desktop then I can get the great frame rate.

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January 4, 2018 at 07:18:02
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In theory it should not make a difference since the typical desktop uses an internal power supply that brings the AC power down to 12V, 5V, and 3.3V for the system to use. An external power supply IF properly sized should also be able to supply all of the needs of the system. The problem might be that they did not supply a power supply with enough Amperage to run the system with the video card under all conditions of gaming. You can see if the manufacture offers a version of the power pack that has a larger available amperage and possibly a cord that can carry the greater amperage. See what the available amperage on the power pack is listed as (though they may only list the VA instead, you should be able to convert it through a Google search) and compare that to the listed system requirements for the GTX1060 card.
I have a 600Watt power supply with a good healthy amount of amperage on the 12volt rail for my i5 Devil's Canyon and GTX950Ti though I should be able to run off a quality 300Watt model as well.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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January 5, 2018 at 14:05:45
I agree with Fingers. Your problem has nothing to do with the power supply.

http://www.esreality.net/post/25339...


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