Joystick test

Asus P4p800-e deluxe motherboard
February 4, 2010 at 08:17:13
Specs: windowsXP pro SP2, 1.6gb/2gb
Someone gave me a A4tech Scroll Fire SF-5 and i got the driver from driverguide.com . I do not know how to test this thing as i have no experience with joysticks and gaming. The driver seemed to install ok and i installed some old win95 games but got no reaction from the joystick. How do i test that this thing is working or not? :0)

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#1
February 4, 2010 at 09:00:50
Try a game made for a newer operating system. Win 95 didn't have support for USB (for the most part) and that may be the issue.

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#2
February 4, 2010 at 09:33:56
If the joystick is supported by XP, you probably don't need a driver. Go to Control Panel > Game Controllers & see if it's listed. If it's not, click Add & try one of the generic choices that matches what you have..."2-axis, 4-button joystick" for example...then click OK. You can then test it by clicking Properties.

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#3
February 4, 2010 at 17:24:00
The device is not usb. It goes into the game port.

Jam-do you mean in device manager? There is no game controllers catergory in Control Panel.

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#4
February 5, 2010 at 11:43:29
"do you mean in device manager?"

No, I mean Control Panel. If you haven't already done so, click on "Switch to Classic View", then you'll find Game Controllers on the list. You also have to make sure you have the gameport enabled in the BIOS & the gameport drivers installed.

XP Control Panel Classic View


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#5
February 5, 2010 at 17:50:35
I am on Classic View and there is no Game Cotrollers thing there.
OK maybe the bios is something i need to look at but i did see an entry in device manager for game controllers.

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#6
February 6, 2010 at 07:14:48
" i did see an entry in device manager for game controllers"

The listing you saw in Device Manager was for "sound, video & game controllers" but that's not what you need.

"I am on Classic View and there is no Game Cotrollers thing there"

I have never not seen Game Controllers listed in the Control Panel. Did you click on the screenshot in my last response? Does your Classic View look the same as that one? Do you see Game Controllers listed after Fonts?


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#7
February 6, 2010 at 17:41:30
Yep I know what you mean and i looked at the screen shot! I do not have game controllers in Control Panel.
My classic view is the same. I always change it to classic view on friends machines as well.

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#8
February 7, 2010 at 00:58:39
I don't know why it's not there. Try going to Start > Run, type in Joy.cpl then click OK.

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#9
February 7, 2010 at 01:14:03
Me either. I never paid any attention as i have never owned any game things. I got an error headed with Joy.cpl: Windows cannot find 'joy.cpl'. Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again. To search for a file, click the Staret button, and then click search.
Then there is an ok button.

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#10
February 7, 2010 at 08:18:34
Search or look in your Windows\System32 folder for the joy.cpl file: It should be there. If it's missing from your Windows installation, you might want to download a copy to replace it.

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#11
February 7, 2010 at 08:33:05
I had a look and the joy.cpl file is not there so i downloaded the one you told me to. So do i just unzip it to the system32 folder? Am i unzipping all the contents or just the joy file?

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#12
February 7, 2010 at 09:10:14
Just joy.cpl.

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#13
February 7, 2010 at 18:28:24
OK done and the game controller icon is in control panel now! Thanks!!! Just restarting with the joystick attached.
Hmmmmm can't get the joystick to install. I went into game controllers and i clicked ADD. Then chose my joystick from the list , it searched for the driver and didn't find it. I tried to manual take it to the 'joystick' folder i created on the hard drive but got nowhere. I also tried the joysticks set up program again and i still get the error that it is unknown and that it can't be installed. And the yellow error in the systray about the device not working. I looked at the folder where i have the joystick setup and does there need to be an inf file? There isn't one.

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#14
February 7, 2010 at 19:42:44
Go back to response # 2. Also make sure you check what I said in response #4 - the gameport must be enabled & gameport drivers installed.

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#15
February 7, 2010 at 20:07:14
Bios not sure about....I said something about that somewhere. I can't see in the bios something specific that says about enable or disable but what i did see seems ok.
Ah the driver i downloaded from driverguide i think said yes to xp. I always check those things.
The joystick model is listed in the that section and that is what i chose....not sure about the mention about generic driver. I have no idea about axis and 4 button etc. I am new to game things.
Not sure what else....covered everything but i lack an understanding of joysticks or gaming devices.

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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#16
February 8, 2010 at 08:08:07
You lack more than just an understanding of joysticks.

"the driver i downloaded from driverguide i think said yes to xp. I always check those things"

What do you mean you "think"? If you "always check those things" you should know if it's for XP or not. It really doesn't matter because you probably don't need a special driver anyway. Windows already has drivers for joysticks & gamepads, you just have to pick the right one. I'm sure your joystick is a 2-axis (that means axis 1 = forward/reverse, axis 2 = left/right) but I have no idea how many buttons it has. All you have to do is count the buttons then select the correct generic driver from the list.

But all this is pointless if the gameport isn't enabled & the gameport driver isn't installed! Is your gameport built into the motherboard or is it part of the souncard? Did you check Device Manager under 'Sound, video & game controllers' to see if the gameport is listed?

Take a look at the following Device Manager screenshot. Notice what's listed under 'Sound, video & game controllers'. This person has an 'Aureal Vortex 8330' soundcard & there's also an 'Aureal Vortex Game Port' listed. That means the gameport is enabled & the driver is installed.

Device Manager Screenshot

If you don't have some sort of gameport listed under 'Sound, video & game controllers' on your computer, you need to enable it. If it is listed but with an exclamation point, you need to install the gameport driver. And until you get the gameport working, there's no way to use the joystick.


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#17
February 8, 2010 at 08:29:22
No you don't understand i have a medical condition that is neurological so it is a bit of a miracle i can do this at all. Too difficult to explain and i am not put off by a challenge. So don't question how i speak. That is all i can do!
I don't know about the buttons because everything is different shapes and sizes. One of the things that is long seems to have two buttons in one? There is a scroll thing. OK so we have 6 buttons, a scroll, 4 slider things. I don't know what an axis is.

The gameport is onboard! The gameport is listed in device manager. The gameport does not have an error.

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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#18
February 8, 2010 at 10:14:34
I'm not questioning how you speak, I'm questioning your ability to understand certain things. You've never learned about the x-axis & y-axis in school? When you move the joystick to the left or the right, you're using the x-axis...when you push it forward or pull it back, you're using the y-axis.

At least we've finally gotten to the fact that the gameport is apparently installed & listed in Device Manager. Make sure the joystick is plugged in then go to Control Panel & click on Game Controllers. Is there anything listed in the 'installed game controllers' box? If not, click ADD & select the very 1st one on the list...it should be '2-axis, 2-button joystick'...then click OK (this is just an experiment so don't worry about it being incorrect). Is '2-axis, 2-button joystick' now listed in the 'installed game controllers' box? If it is, click the Properties button & test the joystick to see if it works.


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#19
February 9, 2010 at 01:32:18
Ah no I am too old for that stuff....I come from poor people and we don't know about gaming. No idea what your saying honest!!!!

There is a box that says 'game controllers' and it is empty. When i click on advanced it is also empty.

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#20
February 9, 2010 at 10:00:19
This is getting annoying.

How old is old? I'm not a kid either...I graduated from high school over 35 yrs ago. The x-axis, y-axis was taught way back when I was in school but had nothing to do with gaming. It had to do with plotting points on graph paper. It's the same principal though.

Anyhow, you have to follow my instructions exactly. I did NOT say to click Advanced, I said to click ADD.


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#21
February 9, 2010 at 17:59:28
I am even more annoyed. Hate it when people talk about what they learned in school and i did not because of the crap schools i went to that gave me no education!
Can we drop that subject. If i say I have no idea about that stuff ...i do not! It has been over 30 years since i was near a school!

Anyway on with the subject...i only talked about 'advanced' because i added the entry in that box that was for this joystick. The entry was atech........ and it didn't do anything so.....
Now i have added the one you said which is the first entry and that is working as a test!!!
The cross moves up/down/sideways when i pull on the joystick and the buttons react to the buttons on the joystick. Dunno about the green scroll wheel though? Nothing there. So does that means i should try several of these game controllers to find the right one and the driver i installed is no good?

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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